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[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 272

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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 03 2012 21:27 GMT
#5421
On December 04 2012 06:18 Requizen wrote:
Also, new skin and champ sale are the champs that won final game of IPL5, nice touch.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-skin-sale-victorious-champions

I might get + Show Spoiler +
Lulu
, only one of the bunch I don't have.

I feel like demolisher nunu was just on sale, since I bought him on-sale recently and it wasn't that long ago since I charged up RP.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 03 2012 21:28 GMT
#5422
On December 04 2012 06:15 Gahlo wrote:
I think I read somebody say 12th at earliest. No source though so don't quote me! ><

that's the earliest possible date for the patch *after* the next one.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 03 2012 21:31 GMT
#5423
Where are all of you guys getting the info/stats on the S3 stuff, specifically the items?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13828 Posts
December 03 2012 21:31 GMT
#5424
On December 04 2012 06:25 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 06:23 Roffles wrote:
Sounds like they're just trying to promote and sell those FOTM champs before they nerf them soon.

Typical Riot.

I honestly feel like Olaf could use some, I can't remember the last high level game I watched that he didn't go full raid boss mode and do good damage while being unkillable. I'd never say he's OP, since he has those high mana costs and landing axes is a lot harder than it looks, but you do see a lot of top players make him look stupid broken.


Eh I've seen a ton where Olaf doesn't work out. I don't really think its really nerf worthy I think its just a measure of the players skill.

I think its a good idea by riot to put something like this on sale. wouldn't be that unhappy with more of these.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 03 2012 21:32 GMT
#5425
Oh dam that's one of the cooler Olaf skins. Find the brolaf is worst skin since he's half the man the raw viking olaf skins give.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13828 Posts
December 03 2012 21:33 GMT
#5426
On December 04 2012 06:31 Ryuu314 wrote:
Where are all of you guys getting the info/stats on the S3 stuff, specifically the items?



http://s3.microtony.com/ A library of the new item shop.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 03 2012 21:34 GMT
#5427
Olaf still has his atrocious 45ish% win rate in soloQ. Same with Lulu. Diana, however.... probably needs another nerf.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 03 2012 21:34 GMT
#5428
On December 04 2012 06:31 Ryuu314 wrote:
Where are all of you guys getting the info/stats on the S3 stuff, specifically the items?

http://s3.microtony.com/

Store widget. I think it's all up to date, just missing the sell back prices.
It's your boy Guzma!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 03 2012 21:36 GMT
#5429
On December 04 2012 05:41 Crownlol wrote:
I've been having a blast playing 3s lately. On-hit Teemo with Malady/Nashor/Wooglet's is amazingly fun.

i hate you


and i hate buying hextech sweeper and never finding mushrooms
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 21:38:14
December 03 2012 21:37 GMT
#5430
On December 04 2012 06:27 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 06:18 Requizen wrote:
Also, new skin and champ sale are the champs that won final game of IPL5, nice touch.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-skin-sale-victorious-champions

I might get + Show Spoiler +
Lulu
, only one of the bunch I don't have.

I feel like demolisher nunu was just on sale, since I bought him on-sale recently and it wasn't that long ago since I charged up RP.

Yeah it was just on sale a little while ago.
On December 04 2012 06:36 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 05:41 Crownlol wrote:
I've been having a blast playing 3s lately. On-hit Teemo with Malady/Nashor/Wooglet's is amazingly fun.

i hate you


and i hate buying hextech sweeper and never finding mushrooms

Oracle's extract man, save Hextech for when enemies are MIA.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 03 2012 21:38 GMT
#5431
I'm not understanding this Avarice Blade in S3 is bad for gold generation argument.

If it gives 2 GP/10 and 2 gold per kill, and Philo gives 5 GP/10, then in order to make it better you just need to average 2 CS every 10 seconds, or 12 CS per minute.

That's really not that hard to do, is it? It just means Avarice is terrible on supports.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 03 2012 21:39 GMT
#5432
On December 04 2012 06:31 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 06:25 Requizen wrote:
On December 04 2012 06:23 Roffles wrote:
Sounds like they're just trying to promote and sell those FOTM champs before they nerf them soon.

Typical Riot.

I honestly feel like Olaf could use some, I can't remember the last high level game I watched that he didn't go full raid boss mode and do good damage while being unkillable. I'd never say he's OP, since he has those high mana costs and landing axes is a lot harder than it looks, but you do see a lot of top players make him look stupid broken.


Eh I've seen a ton where Olaf doesn't work out. I don't really think its really nerf worthy I think its just a measure of the players skill.

I think its a good idea by riot to put something like this on sale. wouldn't be that unhappy with more of these.

Well yeah, I'd agree that he's pretty knowledge/skill intensive, but I think anyone who understands him well gets past his little hurdles. He doesn't really work in turtle teamcomps, but he's pretty devastating in any sort of dive or standard teamfight comp in the right hands.
It's your boy Guzma!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
December 03 2012 21:44 GMT
#5433
On December 04 2012 06:39 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 06:31 Sermokala wrote:
On December 04 2012 06:25 Requizen wrote:
On December 04 2012 06:23 Roffles wrote:
Sounds like they're just trying to promote and sell those FOTM champs before they nerf them soon.

Typical Riot.

I honestly feel like Olaf could use some, I can't remember the last high level game I watched that he didn't go full raid boss mode and do good damage while being unkillable. I'd never say he's OP, since he has those high mana costs and landing axes is a lot harder than it looks, but you do see a lot of top players make him look stupid broken.


Eh I've seen a ton where Olaf doesn't work out. I don't really think its really nerf worthy I think its just a measure of the players skill.

I think its a good idea by riot to put something like this on sale. wouldn't be that unhappy with more of these.

Well yeah, I'd agree that he's pretty knowledge/skill intensive, but I think anyone who understands him well gets past his little hurdles. He doesn't really work in turtle teamcomps, but he's pretty devastating in any sort of dive or standard teamfight comp in the right hands.

Any resources you guys know of for playing Olaf? Bought him when I was low level and trucked a team when he was on free week. Sucked with him ever since TT.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 21:48:32
December 03 2012 21:47 GMT
#5434
On December 04 2012 06:38 Ketara wrote:
I'm not understanding this Avarice Blade in S3 is bad for gold generation argument.

If it gives 2 GP/10 and 2 gold per kill, and Philo gives 5 GP/10, then in order to make it better you just need to average 2 CS every 10 seconds, or 12 CS per minute.

That's really not that hard to do, is it? It just means Avarice is terrible on supports.


12 CS per minute is 100% perfect CS in a lane and/or stealing from your jungler a ton. That's a pretty unreasonable assumption unless you're a pro playing the #1 farm position on a team, and even then.

Moreover, even with perfect CS you're only hitting 6gp10. It'll still take 22+ minutes to break even, which means buying it purely to increase your income isn't remotely worth it. Hence, it's only useful to buy Avarice (and any other gp10 for that matter) if you intend on eventually building one of its upgrades.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 03 2012 21:50 GMT
#5435
Does anyone know if Ravenous Hydra or Blade of the Ruined King are going to be better life steal options than BT? I guess it'd largely depend on what champion you're playing and/or how many autos you're getting off and/or how many enemies you're hitting with Hydra passive.

Still just the possibility that I might not be forced to go BT for life steal on melee champions is pretty cool.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
December 03 2012 21:51 GMT
#5436
On December 04 2012 06:38 Ketara wrote:
I'm not understanding this Avarice Blade in S3 is bad for gold generation argument.

If it gives 2 GP/10 and 2 gold per kill, and Philo gives 5 GP/10, then in order to make it better you just need to average 2 CS every 10 seconds, or 12 CS per minute.

That's really not that hard to do, is it? It just means Avarice is terrible on supports.

12 cs per minute is pretty damn near perfect. Even in competitive play the only people who can frequently get that are mids that are farming their lanes and jungle camps.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2012 21:51 GMT
#5437
On December 04 2012 06:38 Ketara wrote:
I'm not understanding this Avarice Blade in S3 is bad for gold generation argument.

If it gives 2 GP/10 and 2 gold per kill, and Philo gives 5 GP/10, then in order to make it better you just need to average 2 CS every 10 seconds, or 12 CS per minute.

That's really not that hard to do, is it? It just means Avarice is terrible on supports.

12 CS/min when there are less than 13 creeps per minute in each lane (6 creeps per wave + siege creep every 3rd)?

Yeah not that hard.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 03 2012 21:53 GMT
#5438
On December 04 2012 06:50 overt wrote:
Does anyone know if Ravenous Hydra or Blade of the Ruined King are going to be better life steal options than BT? I guess it'd largely depend on what champion you're playing and/or how many autos you're getting off and/or how many enemies you're hitting with Hydra passive.

Still just the possibility that I might not be forced to go BT for life steal on melee champions is pretty cool.


I'm having a very hard time imagining BT being better than hydra on melees.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 21:53:41
December 03 2012 21:53 GMT
#5439
So what's everyone's though on the new Morellonomicon?
+75 AP
+12 MP5
+20% CDR
Dealing magic damage applies Grievous Wounds on targets below 40% health.
2200 Gold: Builds from Kage's and Fiendish Codex

Riot said they wanted this item to be the new go to CDR item on mana users, but I feel like people are just going to get the new DFG for that role. Just wonder if this item has a place anywhere.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 03 2012 21:56 GMT
#5440
On December 04 2012 06:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
So what's everyone's though on the new Morellonomicon?
Show nested quote +
+75 AP
+12 MP5
+20% CDR
Dealing magic damage applies Grievous Wounds on targets below 40% health.
2200 Gold: Builds from Kage's and Fiendish Codex

Riot said they wanted this item to be the new go to CDR item on mana users, but I feel like people are just going to get the new DFG for that role. Just wonder if this item has a place anywhere.


The new DFG sucks.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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