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[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 266

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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 03 2012 01:41 GMT
#5301
On December 03 2012 09:10 zer0das wrote:
I've picked up Varus after not playing him since... oh, about a month after he came out. I guess I've improved a lot since then, because I've been wrecking face with him. I've gotten 3 triple kills in as many games, and a penta. As long as there aren't any face humpers (Rengar, Kha'zix) he's way better than I remember.


Varus is fun! I like the AD-caster feel to him, the rhythm to his skills, and the crazy kill power with his ult.
How have you been building him? I find myself liking an early brutalizer to just take over in lane, followed by Zeal and BT in some order.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 02:03:01
December 03 2012 02:02 GMT
#5302
On December 03 2012 09:58 Slayer91 wrote:
mpen quints for champs who rely on base damage more than scaling, for example malphite mid.


i'm going to try them on elise top as well, since her %hp dmg is so strong
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 02:15:20
December 03 2012 02:11 GMT
#5303
Scarra thinks mpen quints are also good for Lux, who relies a lot on her base damage and her passive. I am pretty sure that in general, mpen quints will allow you to do more damage (like how arpen works). But the lack of extra AP from quints will mean that it is harder to shove lanes.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
banatboy
Profile Joined December 2012
120 Posts
December 03 2012 02:15 GMT
#5304
what about Jax?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 03 2012 02:16 GMT
#5305
Jax would rather get armor/MR/MS than some kind of Pen.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 03 2012 02:25 GMT
#5306
Jesus Rengar is dumb. I shouldn't be able to just build health out of the jungle and kill people anyway.
It's your boy Guzma!
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 02:34:32
December 03 2012 02:31 GMT
#5307
Varus is fun! I like the AD-caster feel to him, the rhythm to his skills, and the crazy kill power with his ult.
How have you been building him? I find myself liking an early brutalizer to just take over in lane, followed by Zeal and BT in some order.


Varus leona has one of the most ridiculous level 6 combos in the game, try it sometime. It's a retarded good lane.

As far as builds go, it depends on your lane matchup. I have two standard builds

'trade' varus goes W first, maxes R>E>W>Q and itemises for attack and mvspeed. (zerkers and zeal into inf edge) I build him against non bursty or short ranged ads like ashe, cait, kog and vayne. The goal is to kill a minion then start a trade, hitting them 3 times then Eing them while they attack more slowly, getting a big chunk of health off them and using the slow field from E to disengage cleanly. Works well with shield/steroid supports and reliable CC supports- lulu, taric and janna and nunu.


'poke' varus goes E first, maxes R>Q>E>W and itemises for early AD (stay on boots 1, dblade, brut, bloodthirster). The goal is to avoid trades and control the lane through poke, synergising with a poke or sustain support like soraka, sona, lux, zyra etc. Use against bursty adcs like ezreal, corki, graves, mf. Can be worth the support getting a mana manipulator and buying mana potions to keep up the pressure. Use Q for normal poke, E to punish pressure moves. Go for single AA trades with the enemy carry if you have a minion advantage. Make sure you ward the shit out of everything because you will pushpushpushpushpush. Varus is second only to cait in his ability to play a tower pressure game with this build
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 03 2012 02:54 GMT
#5308
On December 03 2012 11:31 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
Varus is fun! I like the AD-caster feel to him, the rhythm to his skills, and the crazy kill power with his ult.
How have you been building him? I find myself liking an early brutalizer to just take over in lane, followed by Zeal and BT in some order.


Varus leona has one of the most ridiculous level 6 combos in the game, try it sometime. It's a retarded good lane.


Yeah, my brother and I usually do Varus/Leona or Varus/Zyra - the plants make landing a good Q absurdly easy even if the root misses. Janna's my third favorite support as Varus because he needs all the help with disengaging he can get.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 03 2012 02:56 GMT
#5309
Varus + Leona have absolutely retarded burst and cc..
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 03 2012 03:09 GMT
#5310
Anyone know why there wasn't a WCG for LoL this year?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14196 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 03:10:09
December 03 2012 03:09 GMT
#5311
Man. my little cousin told me about his great support amumu idea. I lied to him and told him it was secret asian meta but now I'm thinking of trying it.

aggro the creep line in lane and keep getting tantrum resets on top of armor stacking and the built in damage reduc.

On December 03 2012 12:09 MooMooMugi wrote:
Anyone know why there wasn't a WCG for LoL this year?


They didn't get a deal though with riot so they just did dota 2 instead.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11958 Posts
December 03 2012 03:16 GMT
#5312
On December 03 2012 12:09 Sermokala wrote:
Man. my little cousin told me about his great support amumu idea. I lied to him and told him it was secret asian meta but now I'm thinking of trying it.

aggro the creep line in lane and keep getting tantrum resets on top of armor stacking and the built in damage reduc.

Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:09 MooMooMugi wrote:
Anyone know why there wasn't a WCG for LoL this year?


They didn't get a deal though with riot so they just did dota 2 instead.


Well, there is that video of a premade team just pushing from level 1 on, getting a turret at level 1, which also used amumu for that. As a support, i don't see how it would work considering that you don't do anything except push the lane hard, and supports are rarely needed for that.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 03 2012 03:24 GMT
#5313
Also as far as I know WCG groups competitors by their countries, but most professional teams are sort of split (e.g. TSM is US and CAN)
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 03 2012 04:17 GMT
#5314
So I guess IPL6 is going to be taking place in about four months. Interested to see how this plays out once the Riot league officially starts up.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14196 Posts
December 03 2012 04:22 GMT
#5315
On December 03 2012 13:17 onlywonderboy wrote:
So I guess IPL6 is going to be taking place in about four months. Interested to see how this plays out once the Riot league officially starts up.


Riot has said that they will hold the curcit events at live events on the weeks that they're happening. the events will have their own events with the favorites cleaned out for newer more ambitious teams to make a name for themselves and get more media coverage.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 03 2012 05:50 GMT
#5316
On December 03 2012 13:22 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 13:17 onlywonderboy wrote:
So I guess IPL6 is going to be taking place in about four months. Interested to see how this plays out once the Riot league officially starts up.


Riot has said that they will hold the curcit events at live events on the weeks that they're happening. the events will have their own events with the favorites cleaned out for newer more ambitious teams to make a name for themselves and get more media coverage.

I just worry that's going to lead to some lackluster tournaments. I mean, seeing up and comers is cool and all, but it's hard to say if the skill level is going to be there.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 06:23:11
December 03 2012 06:21 GMT
#5317
On December 03 2012 14:50 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 13:22 Sermokala wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:17 onlywonderboy wrote:
So I guess IPL6 is going to be taking place in about four months. Interested to see how this plays out once the Riot league officially starts up.


Riot has said that they will hold the curcit events at live events on the weeks that they're happening. the events will have their own events with the favorites cleaned out for newer more ambitious teams to make a name for themselves and get more media coverage.

I just worry that's going to lead to some lackluster tournaments. I mean, seeing up and comers is cool and all, but it's hard to say if the skill level is going to be there.


Of course this is bound to happen, I mean look at IEM Singapore. But, with the release of S3 and all the changes its bringing I think it will be more interesting to see what pro and amateur teams come up with. Especially given the increase in coverage, were pretty much inundated with tournaments every week now anyways, good to see fresh faces emerging, hopefully.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 07:47:24
December 03 2012 07:36 GMT
#5318
On December 03 2012 10:41 Tooplark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 09:10 zer0das wrote:
I've picked up Varus after not playing him since... oh, about a month after he came out. I guess I've improved a lot since then, because I've been wrecking face with him. I've gotten 3 triple kills in as many games, and a penta. As long as there aren't any face humpers (Rengar, Kha'zix) he's way better than I remember.


Varus is fun! I like the AD-caster feel to him, the rhythm to his skills, and the crazy kill power with his ult.
How have you been building him? I find myself liking an early brutalizer to just take over in lane, followed by Zeal and BT in some order.


On Varus I've actually been going 2 dorans, vamp scept->IE/phage into Trinity Force followed by Guardian Angel. I feel like with enough physical damage you can combo someone down in short order. Guardian Angel helps compensate for the fact that you can't create distance with him very easily. Also if you get a phage proc, you can chunk someone. Especially since I go R>W>E>Q and E's slow is pretty ridiculous once you max it.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 03 2012 07:42 GMT
#5319
So. Hotshot claims that Darien went from crappy at Rengar to OP as Rengar within a 3 game span.



Freeeeeeedom
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
December 03 2012 08:26 GMT
#5320
i think what he was actually saying is darien didnt know how to play vs cho as rengar but once he learned how to beat cho and the fact that rengar is OP he got owned.
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