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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
November 04 2012 13:05 GMT
#3941
On November 04 2012 21:55 fishinguy wrote:
Anyone catch the bans for this game?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16788865
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 13:27:26
November 04 2012 13:07 GMT
#3942
Nvm
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
November 04 2012 13:23 GMT
#3943
I'm not a fan of tasteless, never like his casting :/
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 13:39:53
November 04 2012 13:39 GMT
#3944
On November 04 2012 20:39 sob3k wrote:
So when you are going Tiamat mega-bankplank, how many should you get?

two?


From my VAST experience playing with tiamat in bot games, two is best. Unless you're shyvanna or twitch, then you stack them forever.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
November 04 2012 14:34 GMT
#3945
If you're playing Morde you can actually farm both wraith camps + mid farm.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 04 2012 14:39 GMT
#3946
Is picking up an early Kage's and letting it sit there worth it anymore?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 04 2012 15:05 GMT
#3947
Speaking of Talon, it had me wondering a bit: when would you pick him? I mean, there are obvious match-ups were he fares well (Morgana, Anivia, Lux, etc.), but when speaking team comp-wise?

Since he's an assassin, you could pair him with Diana or Katarina top and get an initiator as jungler or support for a balls-out diving/burst teamfight comp, I guess, but those seem pretty fragile to me (though something like Diana/Talon/Noc/Leona/ADC would be ballsy). He'd feel awkward with a standard bruiser top (Olaf, Irelia, etc.) because then you'd lack magic damage and that'd make the late game even more risky.

Since he's all physical damage and has no survivability like other assassins (Katarina shunpo out, or just the %reduced damage, Diana's shield and slow, QR to creeps, similar mechanics for Akali, Leblanc's "return" on W, etc.) he just seems a lot more difficult to fit in a correctly thought out composition to me, even without taking into account all the "X does that job better than him" argument.
Which makes me sad since I like him more (well I like Kat almost as much but I can't be a hipster anymore even if she was my first regularly played champ ).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 15:11:59
November 04 2012 15:09 GMT
#3948
On November 04 2012 23:34 schmutttt wrote:
If you're playing Morde you can actually farm both wraith camps + mid farm.

You can and should do that with almost any of the currently popular mid laners.
Cackle™
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 04 2012 15:17 GMT
#3949
On November 05 2012 00:05 Alaric wrote:
Speaking of Talon, it had me wondering a bit: when would you pick him? I mean, there are obvious match-ups were he fares well (Morgana, Anivia, Lux, etc.), but when speaking team comp-wise?

Since he's an assassin, you could pair him with Diana or Katarina top and get an initiator as jungler or support for a balls-out diving/burst teamfight comp, I guess, but those seem pretty fragile to me (though something like Diana/Talon/Noc/Leona/ADC would be ballsy). He'd feel awkward with a standard bruiser top (Olaf, Irelia, etc.) because then you'd lack magic damage and that'd make the late game even more risky.

Since he's all physical damage and has no survivability like other assassins (Katarina shunpo out, or just the %reduced damage, Diana's shield and slow, QR to creeps, similar mechanics for Akali, Leblanc's "return" on W, etc.) he just seems a lot more difficult to fit in a correctly thought out composition to me, even without taking into account all the "X does that job better than him" argument.
Which makes me sad since I like him more (well I like Kat almost as much but I can't be a hipster anymore even if she was my first regularly played champ ).


i dont even like talon as a 'counter' mid. i'd rather leesin, khazix etcetc. all of them have better options. in particular their aggression comes with failsafe whereas talon has no escape pre-6
cool beans
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 04 2012 15:17 GMT
#3950
On November 04 2012 23:39 Gahlo wrote:
Is picking up an early Kage's and letting it sit there worth it anymore?


It's the same as any gp10. You sacrifice some earlier power to invest in late game. The thing about the way it used to be, though, was that the cost of doing that was FAR outweighed by the ridiculousness of DFG. Now, if you want to do that, you are actually making a sacrifice, instead of only delaying things ever so slightly.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Vingle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada86 Posts
November 04 2012 15:19 GMT
#3951
On November 04 2012 15:13 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 15:05 IMoperator wrote:
Do you guys think it's better to max Q or E first on jayce?

Q>E especially after the nerf.


Do you take points in R when you can, or do you just rush for max level Q and E?

I want to try Jayce, but I'll wait until the item overhaul to see what happens.
Protoss is a very funny race.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 04 2012 15:26 GMT
#3952
EUW seems down. Or at least, I'm stuck at the login screen, loading but without queue or anything popping.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 04 2012 15:34 GMT
#3953
On November 05 2012 00:26 Alaric wrote:
EUW seems down. Or at least, I'm stuck at the login screen, loading but without queue or anything popping.

Works fine for me~
Cackle™
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 04 2012 15:36 GMT
#3954
On November 05 2012 00:19 Vingle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 15:13 Ryuu314 wrote:
On November 04 2012 15:05 IMoperator wrote:
Do you guys think it's better to max Q or E first on jayce?

Q>E especially after the nerf.


Do you take points in R when you can, or do you just rush for max level Q and E?

I want to try Jayce, but I'll wait until the item overhaul to see what happens.


I was looking at Jayce recently and I'm surprised that people are going Q>E and not Q>W. I'd love for somebody to explain why.

Increased levels to Acceleration gate don't increase the damage buff to Shock Blast and the movespeed buff is small compared to the 30% with level 1. In comparison, Hyper Charge gets a huge boost with levels, 15% more damage for each of the 3 hits and 2 secs less cooldown with no increased mana cost, making it your most mana efficient poke very quickly.

Thundering Blow only gets a 3% max HP bonus per level with no flat damage increase anymore, while Lightning Field gets 70 bonus damage on an AoE per level. In order for Thundering Blow to give 70 bonus damage per level, the target would have to have about 2400 HP, which is not likely in the early/mid game. Further, levelling W increases the passive mana sustain in hammer form, while Thundering Blows knockback and stun never get any better.

What's the logic behind Q>E?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3317 Posts
November 04 2012 15:44 GMT
#3955
On November 05 2012 00:36 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 00:19 Vingle wrote:
On November 04 2012 15:13 Ryuu314 wrote:
On November 04 2012 15:05 IMoperator wrote:
Do you guys think it's better to max Q or E first on jayce?

Q>E especially after the nerf.


Do you take points in R when you can, or do you just rush for max level Q and E?

I want to try Jayce, but I'll wait until the item overhaul to see what happens.


I was looking at Jayce recently and I'm surprised that people are going Q>E and not Q>W. I'd love for somebody to explain why.

Increased levels to Acceleration gate don't increase the damage buff to Shock Blast and the movespeed buff is small compared to the 30% with level 1. In comparison, Hyper Charge gets a huge boost with levels, 15% more damage for each of the 3 hits and 2 secs less cooldown with no increased mana cost, making it your most mana efficient poke very quickly.

Thundering Blow only gets a 3% max HP bonus per level with no flat damage increase anymore, while Lightning Field gets 70 bonus damage on an AoE per level. In order for Thundering Blow to give 70 bonus damage per level, the target would have to have about 2400 HP, which is not likely in the early/mid game. Further, levelling W increases the passive mana sustain in hammer form, while Thundering Blows knockback and stun never get any better.

What's the logic behind Q>E?


i never bothered to do the math, but that may have happened only after the nerf. gonna try it next game for sure
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 16:04:22
November 04 2012 16:03 GMT
#3956
Wrong thread
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 16:23:22
November 04 2012 16:21 GMT
#3957
On November 05 2012 00:36 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 00:19 Vingle wrote:
On November 04 2012 15:13 Ryuu314 wrote:
On November 04 2012 15:05 IMoperator wrote:
Do you guys think it's better to max Q or E first on jayce?

Q>E especially after the nerf.


Do you take points in R when you can, or do you just rush for max level Q and E?

I want to try Jayce, but I'll wait until the item overhaul to see what happens.


I was looking at Jayce recently and I'm surprised that people are going Q>E and not Q>W. I'd love for somebody to explain why.

Increased levels to Acceleration gate don't increase the damage buff to Shock Blast and the movespeed buff is small compared to the 30% with level 1. In comparison, Hyper Charge gets a huge boost with levels, 15% more damage for each of the 3 hits and 2 secs less cooldown with no increased mana cost, making it your most mana efficient poke very quickly.

Thundering Blow only gets a 3% max HP bonus per level with no flat damage increase anymore, while Lightning Field gets 70 bonus damage on an AoE per level. In order for Thundering Blow to give 70 bonus damage per level, the target would have to have about 2400 HP, which is not likely in the early/mid game. Further, levelling W increases the passive mana sustain in hammer form, while Thundering Blows knockback and stun never get any better.

What's the logic behind Q>E?

Shorter cooldown on E for more poke? Idk, a lot of people saw Maknoon do it and just copied it. And people haven't seen how he levels it after the nerf since MLG Dallas was an the pre-nerf patch. Maknoob trend setter.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 04 2012 16:23 GMT
#3958
TotalBiscuit making fun of LoL again =(

http://twitter.yfrog.com/mgwrhapj
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 04 2012 16:28 GMT
#3959
hmm when exactly did he take that pic? judging from yesterday the lol area was quiet packed so i dont really understand what that pic is supposed to say
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 04 2012 16:29 GMT
#3960
He obviously took that while no event was going on...I usually agree with some of his criticisms of LoL, but that's just childish.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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