EPTOn November 04 2012 21:55 fishinguy wrote:
Anyone catch the bans for this game?
Anyone catch the bans for this game?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16788865
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Chexx
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Lokrium
United States131 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On November 04 2012 20:39 sob3k wrote: So when you are going Tiamat mega-bankplank, how many should you get? two? From my VAST experience playing with tiamat in bot games, two is best. Unless you're shyvanna or twitch, then you stack them forever. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Since he's an assassin, you could pair him with Diana or Katarina top and get an initiator as jungler or support for a balls-out diving/burst teamfight comp, I guess, but those seem pretty fragile to me (though something like Diana/Talon/Noc/Leona/ADC would be ballsy). He'd feel awkward with a standard bruiser top (Olaf, Irelia, etc.) because then you'd lack magic damage and that'd make the late game even more risky. Since he's all physical damage and has no survivability like other assassins (Katarina shunpo out, or just the %reduced damage, Diana's shield and slow, QR to creeps, similar mechanics for Akali, Leblanc's "return" on W, etc.) he just seems a lot more difficult to fit in a correctly thought out composition to me, even without taking into account all the "X does that job better than him" argument. Which makes me sad since I like him more (well I like Kat almost as much but I can't be a hipster anymore even if she was my first regularly played champ  ). | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On November 04 2012 23:34 schmutttt wrote: If you're playing Morde you can actually farm both wraith camps + mid farm. You can and should do that with almost any of the currently popular mid laners. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
On November 05 2012 00:05 Alaric wrote: Speaking of Talon, it had me wondering a bit: when would you pick him? I mean, there are obvious match-ups were he fares well (Morgana, Anivia, Lux, etc.), but when speaking team comp-wise? Since he's an assassin, you could pair him with Diana or Katarina top and get an initiator as jungler or support for a balls-out diving/burst teamfight comp, I guess, but those seem pretty fragile to me (though something like Diana/Talon/Noc/Leona/ADC would be ballsy). He'd feel awkward with a standard bruiser top (Olaf, Irelia, etc.) because then you'd lack magic damage and that'd make the late game even more risky. Since he's all physical damage and has no survivability like other assassins (Katarina shunpo out, or just the %reduced damage, Diana's shield and slow, QR to creeps, similar mechanics for Akali, Leblanc's "return" on W, etc.) he just seems a lot more difficult to fit in a correctly thought out composition to me, even without taking into account all the "X does that job better than him" argument. Which makes me sad since I like him more (well I like Kat almost as much but I can't be a hipster anymore even if she was my first regularly played champ ).i dont even like talon as a 'counter' mid. i'd rather leesin, khazix etcetc. all of them have better options. in particular their aggression comes with failsafe whereas talon has no escape pre-6 | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 04 2012 23:39 Gahlo wrote: Is picking up an early Kage's and letting it sit there worth it anymore? It's the same as any gp10. You sacrifice some earlier power to invest in late game. The thing about the way it used to be, though, was that the cost of doing that was FAR outweighed by the ridiculousness of DFG. Now, if you want to do that, you are actually making a sacrifice, instead of only delaying things ever so slightly. | ||
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Vingle
Canada86 Posts
Do you take points in R when you can, or do you just rush for max level Q and E? I want to try Jayce, but I'll wait until the item overhaul to see what happens.  | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On November 05 2012 00:26 Alaric wrote: EUW seems down. Or at least, I'm stuck at the login screen, loading but without queue or anything popping. Works fine for me~ | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On November 05 2012 00:19 Vingle wrote: Do you take points in R when you can, or do you just rush for max level Q and E? I want to try Jayce, but I'll wait until the item overhaul to see what happens. I was looking at Jayce recently and I'm surprised that people are going Q>E and not Q>W. I'd love for somebody to explain why. Increased levels to Acceleration gate don't increase the damage buff to Shock Blast and the movespeed buff is small compared to the 30% with level 1. In comparison, Hyper Charge gets a huge boost with levels, 15% more damage for each of the 3 hits and 2 secs less cooldown with no increased mana cost, making it your most mana efficient poke very quickly. Thundering Blow only gets a 3% max HP bonus per level with no flat damage increase anymore, while Lightning Field gets 70 bonus damage on an AoE per level. In order for Thundering Blow to give 70 bonus damage per level, the target would have to have about 2400 HP, which is not likely in the early/mid game. Further, levelling W increases the passive mana sustain in hammer form, while Thundering Blows knockback and stun never get any better. What's the logic behind Q>E? | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3242 Posts
On November 05 2012 00:36 Ketara wrote: I was looking at Jayce recently and I'm surprised that people are going Q>E and not Q>W. I'd love for somebody to explain why. Increased levels to Acceleration gate don't increase the damage buff to Shock Blast and the movespeed buff is small compared to the 30% with level 1. In comparison, Hyper Charge gets a huge boost with levels, 15% more damage for each of the 3 hits and 2 secs less cooldown with no increased mana cost, making it your most mana efficient poke very quickly. Thundering Blow only gets a 3% max HP bonus per level with no flat damage increase anymore, while Lightning Field gets 70 bonus damage on an AoE per level. In order for Thundering Blow to give 70 bonus damage per level, the target would have to have about 2400 HP, which is not likely in the early/mid game. Further, levelling W increases the passive mana sustain in hammer form, while Thundering Blows knockback and stun never get any better. What's the logic behind Q>E? i never bothered to do the math, but that may have happened only after the nerf. gonna try it next game for sure  | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On November 05 2012 00:36 Ketara wrote: I was looking at Jayce recently and I'm surprised that people are going Q>E and not Q>W. I'd love for somebody to explain why. Increased levels to Acceleration gate don't increase the damage buff to Shock Blast and the movespeed buff is small compared to the 30% with level 1. In comparison, Hyper Charge gets a huge boost with levels, 15% more damage for each of the 3 hits and 2 secs less cooldown with no increased mana cost, making it your most mana efficient poke very quickly. Thundering Blow only gets a 3% max HP bonus per level with no flat damage increase anymore, while Lightning Field gets 70 bonus damage on an AoE per level. In order for Thundering Blow to give 70 bonus damage per level, the target would have to have about 2400 HP, which is not likely in the early/mid game. Further, levelling W increases the passive mana sustain in hammer form, while Thundering Blows knockback and stun never get any better. What's the logic behind Q>E? Shorter cooldown on E for more poke? Idk, a lot of people saw Maknoon do it and just copied it. And people haven't seen how he levels it after the nerf since MLG Dallas was an the pre-nerf patch. Maknoob trend setter. | ||
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Celial
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