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Vancouver14381 Posts
On October 20 2012 01:43 Requizen wrote:
Neo, we going to start seeing some LoL stuff in the sidebar/calendar? Or is that still outside your power?
Neo's had calendar access since last week so it's a matter of which events should be added. If you think something could be added, submit the event details here so he doesn't have to find it himself and potentially get it wrong. Just don't spam small events - that's why it's only the big ones right now. Neo shouldn't have to do too much unless he wants to add the MLG prizefights or the IPL5 Qualifiers since the next two big events are MLG and IPL (both have SC2).
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On October 20 2012 01:55 Gnabgib wrote:
I haven't seen too many TF instalocks yet... I think people are still enamored with Orianna.
TF's re-work is really dumb looking. He looks like a giant and his walk is all awkward. Also, Riot finally caved and made Twisted Fate the first black champion. I hope that Riot reduces his size because he's just too damn big now. I feel like the only adult on a children's playground when I play Twisted Fate now.
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On October 20 2012 02:01 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 01:55 Gnabgib wrote:
I haven't seen too many TF instalocks yet... I think people are still enamored with Orianna. TF's re-work is really dumb looking. He looks like a giant and his walk is all awkward. Also, Riot finally caved and made Twisted Fate the first black champion. I hope that Riot reduces his size because he's just too damn big now. I feel like the only adult on a children's playground when I play Twisted Fate now.
His size is one thing, his attack animation is another horrible change. It looks like straight from a bad anime.
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Not only is his attack animation kinda crappy and the cards less obvious on use, but it is nearly impossible to tell when his Wild Cards actually fucking HIT something based on their animations. It's really frustrating.
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yeah I don't like the rework either. Its easier to see the cards when I'm not looking directly onto tf but his body model just looks oversized and out of place. He might grow on me and its nice to see a fresh change to him. I doubt this will be the thing that makes him more popular in NA.
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He's gonna get reverse Pulsefire'd. People are going to play TF less simply because of how stupid he looks right now.
He's like my top three or four champions and it's honestly difficult to play as him right now. And yes, it's much harder to tell if Q is going to hit or not. Both playing as TF and against TF there have been cards that look like they hit but don't do damage and vice versa.
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So... is there something to Zeal first Graves? I see it a lot and most of the time they're utterly useless (last game featured a Zeal Graves vs Phage Corki, dude couldn't dodge Blitz grabs so he got squashed anyway), are they baddies trying to emulate some stuff that makes sense, or are they just baddies that don't get that AD-scaling damage spells call for AD rather than AS?
It's before any BF on his recommended items and triforce is recommended too, so I guess there's some of that.
I can see the reasoning on Vayne/Kog, and somewhat on MF (I don't think it's efficient even when maxing her W tho), but not on Graves at all, it's not like you'll use the AS to reset your E faster in lane anyway.
On October 20 2012 02:22 overt wrote:
Both playing as TF and against TF there have been cards that look like they hit but don't do damage and vice versa.
Keep in mind that a lot of hitboxes are fucked up right now. Blitz grab, Naut's anchor, Ez's and Lux's ults, also Zyra from what I saw, and some others. You just look at skillshots passing right through your opponent, or juke a skillshot and die anyway while seeing the particle pass besides you.
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On October 20 2012 02:32 Alaric wrote:
So... is there something to Zeal first Graves? I see it a lot and most of the time they're utterly useless (last game featured a Zeal Graves vs Phage Corki, dude couldn't dodge Blitz grabs so he got squashed anyway), are they baddies trying to emulate some stuff that makes sense, or are they just baddies that don't get that AD-scaling damage spells call for AD rather than AS?
It's before any BF on his recommended items and triforce is recommended too, so I guess there's some of that.
I can see the reasoning on Vayne/Kog, and somewhat on MF (I don't think it's efficient even when maxing her W tho), but not on Graves at all, it's not like you'll use the AS to reset your E faster in lane anyway.
Not really, people just don't understand that different ADs might actually build differently. They're probably used to Vayne/Kog (as you said), where PD rush or PD with some DBlades is pretty normal and good.
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Yay, bugsplat while loading up a spectator game. Nothing is safe any more.
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If you're talking about messed up hitboxes, don't forget Morg's Q.
Or maybe I just suck 
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On October 20 2012 02:37 Ferrose wrote:If you're talking about messed up hitboxes, don't forget Morg's Q. Or maybe I just suck
Morg's Q is actually a magnet. You mind says "run", your mouse hand says "hug".
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On October 20 2012 02:01 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 01:55 Gnabgib wrote:
I haven't seen too many TF instalocks yet... I think people are still enamored with Orianna. TF's re-work is really dumb looking. He looks like a giant and his walk is all awkward. Also, Riot finally caved and made Twisted Fate the first black champion. I hope that Riot reduces his size because he's just too damn big now. I feel like the only adult on a children's playground when I play Twisted Fate now.
yeah him and the new soraka definitely need to be down-sized
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On October 20 2012 02:32 Alaric wrote:
So... is there something to Zeal first Graves? I see it a lot and most of the time they're utterly useless (last game featured a Zeal Graves vs Phage Corki, dude couldn't dodge Blitz grabs so he got squashed anyway), are they baddies trying to emulate some stuff that makes sense, or are they just baddies that don't get that AD-scaling damage spells call for AD rather than AS?
It's before any BF on his recommended items and triforce is recommended too, so I guess there's some of that.
I can see the reasoning on Vayne/Kog, and somewhat on MF (I don't think it's efficient even when maxing her W tho), but not on Graves at all, it's not like you'll use the AS to reset your E faster in lane anyway.
I think price is also a reason. If you're forced to recall and don't have enough for a BF sword it's tempting to buy any part of zeal.
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i find the sona and blitz nerfs hilarious because they keep nerfing supports for some reason.
i think only taric and leona have never been nerfed.
come to think of it, i'd like to see hero kills be worth more exp. it always sucks when you roam, gank a lane, and then come back and see that your lane opponent has a level on you.
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On October 20 2012 02:43 ReachTheSky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 02:01 overt wrote:On October 20 2012 01:55 Gnabgib wrote:
I haven't seen too many TF instalocks yet... I think people are still enamored with Orianna. TF's re-work is really dumb looking. He looks like a giant and his walk is all awkward. Also, Riot finally caved and made Twisted Fate the first black champion. I hope that Riot reduces his size because he's just too damn big now. I feel like the only adult on a children's playground when I play Twisted Fate now. yeah him and the new soraka definitely need to be down-sized
i thought so as well, but some1 said earlier that soon they were going to scale everybody up to TF/Soraka size
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On October 20 2012 02:47 kainzero wrote:
i find the sona and blitz nerfs hilarious because they keep nerfing supports for some reason.
i think only taric and leona have never been nerfed.
come to think of it, i'd like to see hero kills be worth more exp. it always sucks when you roam, gank a lane, and then come back and see that your lane opponent has a level on you.
Taric's rework was a nerf in some ways, depending on who you ask. He's still probably my favorite support next to Janna.
I wish roaming supports was more accepted. There are so many times where I want to get Mobo boots on Taric and go stun mid for a free kill, but ADs are so used to having a babysitter that it's like, unheard of to leave.
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On October 20 2012 02:32 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 02:22 overt wrote:
Both playing as TF and against TF there have been cards that look like they hit but don't do damage and vice versa. Keep in mind that a lot of hitboxes are fucked up right now. Blitz grab, Naut's anchor, Ez's and Lux's ults, also Zyra from what I saw, and some others. You just look at skillshots passing right through your opponent, or juke a skillshot and die anyway while seeing the particle pass besides you.
i wonder if hitbox issues are actually hitbox issues or if there's some kind of lag compensation that's going on between the clients and the server (i.e. on your client, the model is in one place, but on the server the hitbox somewhere else). This was something i was looking into in CS:GO and i'm wondering if something similar is going on here.
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On October 20 2012 02:52 Requizen wrote:
Taric's rework was a nerf in some ways, depending on who you ask. He's still probably my favorite support next to Janna.
I wish roaming supports was more accepted. There are so many times where I want to get Mobo boots on Taric and go stun mid for a free kill, but ADs are so used to having a babysitter that it's like, unheard of to leave.
Thats because competitive match/ranked 5s =/= solo que. Instead of a situation where your AD is practiced to laning 1v2 without dying all you'll end up getting is a pub AD who is going to get zoned/killed. Not to mention the "free" kill probably won't even happen if the enemy mid laner still has flash up.
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the double exp weekend starts tonight in a few hours right? think we're gona get a patch for the holloween stuff and the double ip will come with that?
Would be really cool if they did double ip weekends for these holiday packages. xmas would be a really smart time to have a big scene push with skins wards and another double ip weekend.
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On October 20 2012 03:02 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 02:32 Alaric wrote:On October 20 2012 02:22 overt wrote:
Both playing as TF and against TF there have been cards that look like they hit but don't do damage and vice versa. Keep in mind that a lot of hitboxes are fucked up right now. Blitz grab, Naut's anchor, Ez's and Lux's ults, also Zyra from what I saw, and some others. You just look at skillshots passing right through your opponent, or juke a skillshot and die anyway while seeing the particle pass besides you. i wonder if hitbox issues are actually hitbox issues or if there's some kind of lag compensation that's going on between the clients and the server (i.e. on your client, the model is in one place, but on the server the hitbox somewhere else). This was something i was looking into in CS:GO and i'm wondering if something similar is going on here.
League does seem to use a networking model more similar to FPS games than RTS games. I'm pretty convinced the constant complaints of skillshots appearing to just go through their targets is more of a combination of their latency to the server + imperfect netcode than straight-up broken hit detection. This is just anecdotal, but I'm playing on a university line with consistent 30 ping, and I've literally never notice skillshots malfunction like lots of people seem to describe.
Invisible projectiles, on the other hand...
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