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Lmui
Canada6211 Posts
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barbsq
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:00 overt wrote: If that's true then Riot is so dumb. Yes, Ezreal is over played and should be nerfed. No, he shouldn't have his AS debuff completely removed. He's going to go from over played as hell to no one ever picking him in competitive play. Oh wow. Serious? What is the point of using W then? | ||
lethal111
Canada460 Posts
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
I like the nerf, right now it's ezreal in every single game, and it's extremely tiring. Finally we will see something else now, altought I am very scared of the incoming draven wave... | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On October 18 2012 13:57 Sufficiency wrote: Why tryhard when you can just stream to make money. Hue. You can't fault them for possibly having that mindset. For the majority of time during LoL's competitive existence they were capable of doing that and winning tournaments. The realization has set in and teams are no longer streaming their scrims etc. As well, league needs teams like TSM/CLG who constantly stream. It increases fan base and gives fans something to talk about during down times. I doubt Hotshot/Doublelift have impressive reasons for not playing in the qualifier. However they still have a good chance at qualifying. I know members of TSM split ways after the s2 finals, some went home etc. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Then again, Corki's Q got hit equally hard back in the day and he's still viable so w/e | ||
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Craton
United States17235 Posts
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
Corki's Q used to blind, that got removed and then people thought he wouldn't be viable? chill guys, ezreal is broken as fuck and I still think after this w removal he'll still be at the very least a viable ad carry. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:05 barbsq wrote: if they want to get rid of the as debuff then they might as well just completely redo the entire fucking skill. Ez's w has had a very sad, sad life and has always seemed to be the most problematic part of him in terms of balance; they should just shoot the thing and get it over with instead of continually chopping its legs off. Yeah, I think they should just give him a new W. With this change there's really no point to picking him. Just pick Corki every game if you want a safe laner with a strong mid game. On October 18 2012 14:13 SagaZ wrote: W will still be used as a (sick) attak speed steroid for your team. I like the nerf, right now it's ezreal in every single game, and it's extremely tiring. Finally we will see something else now, altought I am very scared of the incoming draven wave... In most situations not many people are going to benefit from the AS buff on your team. It'll be useful for taking monsters and towers. Won't be that useful in too many team fights considering 3/5s of your team won't be using it since W doesn't effect Ez. I guess if you hit your jungler and top laner with it then it might help out some. But W is going to go back to the last spell you max. In fact this change will probably cause Ez players to go back to not even getting a single point in W until level 12. edit: Corki dipped in popularity pretty fucking hard after his nerf. It wasn't just his blind that got removed either literally every single one of his spells got nerfed. He only started seeing an increase in play after changes to his E. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:21 overt wrote: Yeah, I think they should just give him a new W. With this change there's really no point to picking him. Just pick Corki every game if you want a safe laner with a strong mid game. In most situations not many people are going to benefit from the AS buff on your team. It'll be useful for taking monsters and towers. Won't be that useful in too many team fights considering 3/5s of your team won't be using it since W doesn't effect Ez. I guess if you hit your jungler and top laner with it then it might help out some. But W is going to go back to the last spell you max. In fact this change will probably cause Ez players to go back to not even getting a single point in W until level 12. Worse yet Ezreal does not even benefit from his own W (beside his passive ofc). I don't like these changes. Why can't they just revert back to the old Ezreal from 10 months ago? EDIT: I actually thought they were for sure going to change Graves and Ezreal's movement speed down to 300. 305 speed + gapcloser = too stronk. With the W changes, I guess Ezreal will always max Q first and add points in W at the end. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:21 overt wrote: Yeah, I think they should just give him a new W. With this change there's really no point to picking him. Just pick Corki every game if you want a safe laner with a strong mid game. In most situations not many people are going to benefit from the AS buff on your team. It'll be useful for taking monsters and towers. Won't be that useful in too many team fights considering 3/5s of your team won't be using it since W doesn't effect Ez. I guess if you hit your jungler and top laner with it then it might help out some. But W is going to go back to the last spell you max. In fact this change will probably cause Ez players to go back to not even getting a single point in W until level 12. edit: Corki dipped in popularity pretty fucking hard after his nerf. It wasn't just his blind that got removed either literally every single one of his spells got nerfed. He only started seeing an increase in play after changes to his E. Corki is probably my best AD and I can tell you that his e change has absolutely nothing to do with why he's strong lol | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:20 tobi9999 wrote: rofl. Corki's Q used to blind, that got removed and then people thought he wouldn't be viable? chill guys, ezreal is broken as fuck and I still think after this w removal he'll still be at the very least a viable ad carry. When Corki Q's blind got removed people were saying basically the same things about Corki that people are saying about Ez now. The patch that nerfed Corki's Q also hit his ulti and E damage pretty hard. So yes, people did think he was no longer viable, which obviously ended up being wrong. Although to be fair the other AD carries were a bit stronger back then too. On October 18 2012 14:24 tobi9999 wrote: Corki is probably my best AD and I can tell you that his e change has absolutely nothing to do with why he's strong lol He's by far my best AD too lol. But yea, I agree with you in that Corki became popular again not cause his E, but because they reverted the damage nerf on his Q, which let him poke in lane harder. Also because all the other popular AD carries at that time got subsequently nerfed. People also realized that Corki is still a monster even without OP Q blind. IMO, his E getting changed and his popularity increasing were more coincidental than anything. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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iaeuy
United States249 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:22 Sufficiency wrote: Worse yet Ezreal does not even benefit from his own W (beside his passive ofc). I don't like these changes. Why can't they just revert back to the old Ezreal from 10 months ago? So you want to buff him? lol | ||
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Craton
United States17235 Posts
Might as well fix that shit while everything else is being done. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
I would actually be okay with Riot buffing a lot of champions. Only reason Ezreal is OP king of bot lane is because they've nerfed literally every other AD carry. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
I'm not sure if it would be a buff tbh. Ezreal 10 months ago had a stronger W in terms of damage and hitbox, but his mana costs were extremely prohibitive. The biggest reason why Ezreal became popular in the first place was because Riot decreased his W mana costs to the point where you could actually level/use W in lane and not go oom extremely fast. His W mana cost used to be 70-110 mana compared to the 50-90 mana now. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Pretty sure 10 months ago Ezreal had higher mana cost on his Q, W, and R than what they are now. W did more damage but (imo) minimal. I can't comment on the W width. I probably wouldn't call it a buff. Anyway, it's an interesting thought of what would have happened if Ezreal was reverted to that state. Would people still find him OP or not? Was Ezreal perceived to be weak back then because he was actually weak, or was it because no one cared to play him? | ||
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