EPTOn October 18 2012 14:17 Craton wrote:
Doublelift is in Korea. I dunno where Hotshot is.
Doublelift is in Korea. I dunno where Hotshot is.
Hotshot is in Korea as well but according to Jiji on legit reasons.
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Hotshot is in Korea as well but according to Jiji on legit reasons. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:30 HazMat wrote: Hotshot is in Korea as well but according to Jiji on legit reasons. Didn't 2xlift say he wants to play in Korea? Does CLGNA want to move over entirely or something? | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Leona Patch Ezreal: Q: Costs 30/35/40/45/50 mana W: Did 80/130/180/230/280 (+0.6 AP) damage, 120 width, 70/80/90/100/110 mana E: unchanged R: 150 mana, 100 cooldown Ezreal now: Q: Costs 28/31/34/37/40 mana W: Does 70/115/160/205/250 (+0.8 AP) damage, 80 width, 50/60/70/80/90 mana E: unchanged R: 100 mana, 80 cooldown Ez back then was extremely mana hungry in lane. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:39 MooMooMugi wrote: He also had the misconception of having a "weak late game" thanks to a very popular TSM streamer named TheOddOne Ezreal's late game is definitely not comparable to Vayne, Ashe, Tristana, and Kog'maw though..... | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2474 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:46 SidianTheBard wrote: Ez will still be very strong, most likely still top 3 AD. His entire skillset just works so well together. He can be extremely mobile if he needs too and let's not even get started on how his escape skill is without a doubt the best escape skill out of any AD carry. What *I* think is going to happen is that Kog'maw will run amok after the Ezreal nerf | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:39 MooMooMugi wrote: He also had the misconception of having a "weak late game" thanks to a very popular TSM streamer named TheOddOne those jokes were too good. http://www.nerfplz.com/2011/12/theoddones-compiled-ezreal-quotes.html "He has to use his ult to clear creep waves, that's how weak Ezreal is...but look! His ult can't even clear the wave!" | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
What *I* think is going to happen is that Kog'maw will run amok after the Ezreal nerf somewhat agree, I've switched to maining him a few days ago and am something like 8/2 with at least a 4-1 KD ratio so far. Ez is the only champ who can give me trouble in lane, and only because of that debuff. You know, I really don't know why riot are averse to simultaeneously nerfing and buffing an ability on more than a cosmetic level. With a nerf like this, I think it would be reasonable to drop the mana cost of the ability a little or increase its width or length again (widening the particle this time) Frankly, I think it's less they need to nerf ez/graves/corki and more that they need to buff up all the other AD carries a bit. Unfortunately doing so with the current scaling of AD items might be a problem, so they also need to perhaps tone down late game AD stacking and make the items a bit more specialised and less synergistic, less raw stats and more unique effects. As it is ADCs have a hard time making an impact in the game before they hit critical mass with bruisers that can stick to them and obliterate them and AP carries that can one combo them at level 6. Even most junglers are a reasonable threat to an unfed ADC early midgame. Carries like ez/graves/corki are strong because early midgame they can act in a limited sense like an APC with their burst and utility which gives them the tools to contribute to a team when any other ADC would be stuck on tower bottom lane, farming for their life to get an inf edge. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6213 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:46 Sufficiency wrote: Ezreal's late game is definitely not comparable to Vayne, Ashe, Tristana, and Kog'maw though..... It's very comparable because he has two flashes | ||
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iaeuy
United States249 Posts
On October 18 2012 14:35 Ryuu314 wrote: For comparison: Leona Patch Ezreal: Q: Costs 30/35/40/45/50 mana W: Did 80/130/180/230/280 (+0.6 AP) damage, 120 width, 70/80/90/100/110 mana E: unchanged R: 150 mana, 100 cooldown Ezreal now: Q: Costs 28/31/34/37/40 mana W: Does 70/115/160/205/250 (+0.8 AP) damage, 80 width, 50/60/70/80/90 mana E: unchanged R: 100 mana, 80 cooldown Ez back then was extremely mana hungry in lane. The numbers you listed are from before leona patch where he got ult cd reduce and W mana cost reduce, and leona patch was more than 10 months ago. But anyway, ezreal really isn't that different from what he was a year ago when people were calling him worst hero in the game bar eve. This was also when people rushed cdr boots, brutalizer, sheen and wriggles and then never built ie and said he was bad because his endgame sucked Also comparing lategame ADs is meaningless without considering compositions IMO | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On October 18 2012 15:13 cLutZ wrote: Compared to other AD Carries Ez's lategame is not that great. He doesn't do as much damage as a lot of AD's like kog, vayne, and trist, nor has as much utility as ashe. But what he does have is saftey thanks to his low CD on e, plus q's long range. Even corki's w isn't as low CD, albeit, corki does more damage in comparison. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On October 18 2012 15:18 zulu_nation8 wrote: It's very comparable because he has two flashes I'd have to somewhat agree. Ezreal has GREAT lategame teamfighting because of his E + Flash His lategame DAMAGE though is nothing compared to the so-called hyper carries. Vayne IMO is the best hypercarry because of her ult+tumble being a great escape in conjunction with Flash as well (much like Ezreal) On another note, I just picked up Frosted Ezreal because PFE's animations were really starting to bug me, and I must say I feel like he plays SO MUCH SMOOTHER. Everything feels that much more responsive. I know I could have just gone back to his default skin, but I saw Frosted is only 520 RP and it felt worth it. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
and when both teams have maxed item ad carries, it's more of the team comp + the skill level of the ad carry that determines how hard an ad carry can "carry". The champion you're playing is negligible unless it's tristana in which case it;s like fucking impossible to lose late game rofl (although tristana is a pain in the ass to try and farm 6 items on) | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On October 18 2012 15:35 barbsq wrote: i think i was one of the minority of people who liked the nottingham ezreal skin, since i thought he looked like link. That was before they changed it tho... now it just looks goofy. I like that skin too, although I'd never spend RP's for it. A color change just isn't worth it to me. I just like the green jacket l0l. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
Kinda sad that they're lowering the skill ceiling of Ezreal though. It was really damn hard to hit W on effective targets late game anyways, but now they're just removing that aspect completely to where pretty much W will only be used on allies. Yeah I got really annoyed @ Pulsefire Ezreal animations too. Also everyone had PFE so I didn't feel cool using it. Now I'm back to Hipster Nottingham Ezreal. | ||
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