EPTNot sure if he loves CLG enough to be their sub either.
Still a bad strategic decision by CLG. so hurt~
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Not sure if he loves CLG enough to be their sub either. Still a bad strategic decision by CLG. so hurt~ | ||
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Owned Noob
United States731 Posts
clg is good enough that even with these roster switches, they'll still be top 3 na, i dont know why y'all giving them shit LOL. remember mlg spring? remember how they played with a jungling-for-3-weeks hsgg and a random solo queue sub? remember how everyone thought they would get their asses kicked there too, only for them to beat clg.eu, td, and dig, AND go 3-3 with tsm after 5 back-to-back series and 8 consecutive hours of play? im not saying it's gonna happen again, but y'all just gotta keep shit in perspective. | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On October 23 2012 15:57 TheYango wrote: Since S1, Chauster has played AD, AP, Support, and now Jungle for CLG. S4 Chauster gonna play top lane. Actually he also played top lane a lot in season 1. I remember he was well known for top lane corki back in the day. Chauster always shined in solo lanes specifically. It was duo lanes he was weaker in. Chau used to be the better AD carry when it was solo lane ad's, while jiji was the better duo lane AD carry. But chau has proven to be a top support who makes some really good plays. Now with chau playing jungle he will officially have played every single role for CLGna. | ||
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
Personally, I think CLG should read a couple educative books on the subject of sports psychology and game theory. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I'd argue neither Westrice or Salce really top laners though. Salce excels at farming and AP's, and Westrice only really good at assassins (Akali. Dat Akali.) top lane, I'd say he better at AD. Voyboy perfect top for Saint. Saint's Ideal champions like Shyvana/Udyr/Hecarim, imagine if he had a tanky as balls top laner pulling 100% of the other junglers attention top. Dude could just hit 200 Creeps in 15 minutes every game and hardcarry from Jungle, even if Voyboy got dunked. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On October 23 2012 16:00 NeoIllusions wrote: If I was Voy, I'd be sad too. Not sure if he loves CLG enough to be their sub either. Still a bad strategic decision by CLG. so hurt~ What did Voyboy think when he joins CLG? Hotshot benched Ele and even the best NA jungler at the time Saint. What did he expect once the team is not doing good. jj and DL would be next really. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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FR4CT4L
Australia697 Posts
#1 I don't feel like Voyboy ever meshed properly with how CLG goes about the game. The games CLG used to crush in my opinion were the ones when they took complete map control and slow rolled by either running a poke comp or split push comp. I don't think Voyboy has the champ pool for a good split push or poke comp. Putting HSGG back into the top lane bring these options back onto the table IF he can get into a form comparable to Asian top laners. #2 I feel Voyboys laning in a tourney level game is too shaky. It's been a long time since I've seen Voyboy get into a losing position but still keep the lane stable. Every time I saw Voyboy get Vlad or Olaf in a game I really felt like clg was flipping a coin on the outcome. #3 This one is going to seem like I am the queen bitch of the high school prom but, his attitude towards sheen as an item and sub-optimal builds in general. So many times I've watched Voyboy build sheen first top lane which then basically throws the advantage he got out the window. To make it worse I was watching a scrim where chauster called him out on this and he more or less told him to stfu and not critique his builds. Keep in mind I'm only 1500 so if someone who actually gets to play with Voyboy, Hotshot and co wants to explain why my impression of Voy's top lane is actually way off base I'm happy to listen :D | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 23 2012 16:21 TwoToneTerran wrote: Saint wasn't the best jungler at the time of his trading/benching. He had gotten stomped by Oddone twice in a row when CLG met TSM. True but he's always been better than HotShot, then and now. Unless Chau channels his inner LilBallz, I'm going to say his efforts are better spent as Support. Time will tell. | ||
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Filter
Canada620 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 23 2012 16:24 FR4CT4L wrote: Ok so in the effort to spark some more in-depth discussion I'm going to explain why I agree with CLG benching Voyboy. #1 I don't feel like Voyboy ever meshed properly with how CLG goes about the game. The games CLG used to crush in my opinion were the ones when they took complete map control and slow rolled by either running a poke comp or split push comp. I don't think Voyboy has the champ pool for a good split push or poke comp. Putting HSGG back into the top lane bring these options back onto the table IF he can get into a form comparable to Asian top laners. #2 I feel Voyboys laning in a tourney level game is too shaky. It's been a long time since I've seen Voyboy get into a losing position but still keep the lane stable. Every time I saw Voyboy get Vlad or Olaf in a game I really felt like clg was flipping a coin on the outcome. #3 This one is going to seem like I am the queen bitch of the high school prom but, his attitude towards sheen as an item and sub-optimal builds in general. So many times I've watched Voyboy build sheen first top lane which then basically throws the advantage he got out the window. To make it worse I was watching a scrim where chauster called him out on this and he more or less told him to stfu and not critique his builds. Keep in mind I'm only 1500 so if someone who actually gets to play with Voyboy, Hotshot and co wants to explain why my impression of Voy's top lane is actually way off base I'm happy to listen :D I'll just chime in and say he's never been a carry for CLG like he was for dig. He shined while he was on dig, never got the opportunity to so on CLG because he wasn't the 1 or 2 position on the team. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Also, during time of Saint's trade, he did get shat on pretty hard, but I think weakness and unresponsiveness from mid and top lane hurts junglers pretty hard. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 23 2012 16:29 NeoIllusions wrote: True but he's always been better than HotShot, then and now. Unless Chau channels his inner LilBallz, I'm going to say his efforts are better spent as Support. Time will tell. Oh yes, I agree, but it's hard to be worse than Hotshot jungle. That said, isn't Jungler the only role Chauster HASN'T played competitively? It's an all around stupid fuckin move. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On October 23 2012 16:25 IMoperator wrote: Syndra is going to be fotm status soon imo. People need to learn to not concentrate on their stun too much, the main damage is Q+W and the range on both of those is so far that you should be able to hit both really easily without needing to set it up with your stun. people concentrate on her stun? i've had success just dropping orbs in lane to zone them out once i have chalice and i make them fear the toss or stun. it's easy to chase... Q then W toss, then E to stun. i also feel like she's really good at poking people under tower because of her E. you try to Q them, then you try to throw the orb, and then you make them fear the E. or you can even put down another Q and try to E that way. | ||
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qtiehunter
1088 Posts
cold war 2.0 in da jungle chauster vs oddbro inc :D | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
As for the laneswaps, once again HSGG's ego shines through. Honestly, I don't see why you'd break up chaulift when they're one of the only foreign bot lane duos that can consistently keep up with the asian teams. Voyboy definitely needed to step it up(he lost top almost every game with CLG IIRC), but I'm not sure HS is any better. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 23 2012 16:58 kainzero wrote: people concentrate on her stun? i've had success just dropping orbs in lane to zone them out once i have chalice and i make them fear the toss or stun. it's easy to chase... Q then W toss, then E to stun. i also feel like she's really good at poking people under tower because of her E. you try to Q them, then you try to throw the orb, and then you make them fear the E. or you can even put down another Q and try to E that way. I feel her poking power is mediocre. Her Q is comparable to Karthus's Q and Cassiopeia's Q; neither of them are known for poking. The biggest incoming change is the ability to stun + knockback at the same time. That's basically an Alistar combo right there, except it also does a lot of damage and Syndra does not need to commit to anything. I am really confused about the Syndra situation tbh. During her beta-testing stages, she actually got nerfed and lost some ratio on her Q. I don't think Riot would do this unless they recognize that she was OP. | ||
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