EPT[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 89
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
I hope they get rid of mejai's/occult/leviathan, they're rarely ever good buys and I don't think I've ever thought "Man, that guy won because he got a mejai's and he wouldn't have otherwise won if he bought standard items instead" (did see a few throws due to mejai's purchases though...) | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
I'd rather they added new interesting items than take away old or semi useless items without adding anything, no matter how useless they may be. That's precisely what they've implied that they're working on for S3 anyway. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On October 04 2012 00:55 thenexusp wrote: Can we talk about something else? Like uh, speculations about the item overhaul for season 3 I hope they get rid of mejai's/occult/leviathan, they're rarely ever good buys and I don't think I've ever thought "Man, that guy won because he got a mejai's and he wouldn't have otherwise won if he bought standard items instead" (did see a few throws due to mejai's purchases though...) Yeah snowball items don't need to stay. GA could use some looking into (give it an active so it's like zilean ult?), buff QSS again, I have no idea why they nerfed it in the first place. A nerf to DFG, maybe just revert the range buff on the active. Also, more interesting items. The last AP item they added (grail) is neat for the mana hungry aps and if you want to be independent of blue buff and it's one of the few good choices for AP champs that give MR, but it's not that interesting of an item. How about something like this: Haunting guise+Kages = AP version of Ghostblade, gives an active that gives movement speed and cdr, active lasts longer with spells cast. I just like actives on items. I should go play DotA :D Edit: Also do something with the tenacity items. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On October 04 2012 01:04 h3r1n6 wrote: Yeah snowball items don't need to stay. GA could use some looking into (give it an active so it's like zilean ult?), buff QSS again, I have no idea why they nerfed it in the first place. A nerf to DFG, maybe just revert the range buff on the active. Also, more interesting items. The last AP item they added (grail) is neat for the mana hungry aps and if you want to be independent of blue buff and it's one of the few good choices for AP champs that give MR, but it's not that interesting of an item. How about something like this: Haunting guise+Kages = AP version of Ghostblade, gives an active that gives movement speed and cdr, active lasts longer with spells cast. I just like actives on items. I should go play DotA :D Edit: Also do something with the tenacity items. I dunno I think items just need to be rehauled completely, theres just so much stagnation in what items you have to get | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Make Hexdrinker shield a spell that you can cast on anyone, give Wriggles a smite-like active, make Morello's Evil Tome active AoE, give Nashor's Tooth a damage amplification active, give Soul Shroud a 300 targeted heal on 40 second cooldown, give Athene an active that increases your spell damage by 25% but disallows you to autoattack and amplifies a damage dealt to you by 50% for 8 seconds. And stuff like that I WANT TO CLICK more buttons and MAKE THINGS HAPPEN with it. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On October 04 2012 01:04 h3r1n6 wrote: Yeah snowball items don't need to stay. GA could use some looking into (give it an active so it's like zilean ult?), buff QSS again, I have no idea why they nerfed it in the first place. A nerf to DFG, maybe just revert the range buff on the active. Also, more interesting items. The last AP item they added (grail) is neat for the mana hungry aps and if you want to be independent of blue buff and it's one of the few good choices for AP champs that give MR, but it's not that interesting of an item. How about something like this: Haunting guise+Kages = AP version of Ghostblade, gives an active that gives movement speed and cdr, active lasts longer with spells cast. I just like actives on items. I should go play DotA :D Edit: Also do something with the tenacity items. Need to add a Pickaxe + Negatron = X item. I need something to buy when I'm slaughtering top, but mid is getting slaughtered. Other than Maw which is meh. Edit: Also more support items. HoG and Kages build into such Meh support items. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On October 04 2012 01:11 Scip wrote: I want more actives on my items! Make Hexdrinker shield a spell that you can cast on anyone, give Wriggles a smite-like active, make Morello's Evil Tome active AoE, give Nashor's Tooth a damage amplification active, give Soul Shroud a 300 targeted heal on 40 second cooldown, give Athene an active that increases your spell damage by 25% but disallows you to autoattack and amplifies a damage dealt to you by 50% for 8 seconds. And stuff like that I WANT TO CLICK more buttons and MAKE THINGS HAPPEN with it. Sure, as long as all of them are turned into skillshots so you can MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On October 04 2012 01:08 arb wrote: I dunno I think items just need to be rehauled completely, theres just so much stagnation in what items you have to get I doubt Riot would consider that an option at this point though. | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On October 04 2012 01:18 h3r1n6 wrote: I doubt Riot would consider that an option at this point though. Well other than the season 3 item overhaul that they mentioned “Renekton is honestly fine, and I don’t understand the feelings of marginalization on him. He’s used sometimes in serious play (but not always) and only really suffers from lack of AD Caster itemization - something that will probably be much better in the Season 3 item overhaul.” --Morello | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On October 04 2012 01:11 Scip wrote: I want more actives on my items! Make Hexdrinker shield a spell that you can cast on anyone, give Wriggles a smite-like active, make Morello's Evil Tome active AoE, give Nashor's Tooth a damage amplification active, give Soul Shroud a 300 targeted heal on 40 second cooldown, give Athene an active that increases your spell damage by 25% but disallows you to autoattack and amplifies a damage dealt to you by 50% for 8 seconds. And stuff like that I WANT TO CLICK more buttons and MAKE THINGS HAPPEN with it. I dont think I would ever use that active on Athenes | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Some more aggressive support items would be nice, fix that farmfest down bottom. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On October 04 2012 01:26 arb wrote: I dont think I would ever use that active on Athenes seems like it would work well with zhonya's casters. Pop athenes, flash ult + zhon with morg or galio or something. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On October 04 2012 01:27 ticklishmusic wrote: I'd like more items that give a combination of MR and some other stat. Some more aggressive support items would be nice, fix that farmfest down bottom. MR/HP is really rare, there's like aegis and banshees. But aegis isn't a real MR item, and banshees gives mana. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On October 04 2012 01:30 JackDino wrote: MR/HP is really rare, there's like aegis and banshees. But aegis isn't a real MR item, and banshees gives mana. More like Odyn and Spirit Visage are the only ones, and Odyn is Dominion-only while Spirit Visage is really niche.  | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On October 04 2012 01:24 Flakes wrote: Well other than the season 3 item overhaul that they mentioned I know he said that, but I don't think he means a complete overhault. I understood arbs comment as "Riot should start over with items" basically. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Or perhaps a single target damage reduction item, like active causes 10% less dmg taken for 5 seconds, or something like that. Cooler support itemization would be sick, especially some offensive support itemization, that would be terrible for AP carries and AD-Carries, like something that gives aural mp/5, and some offensive capabilities, like a 50% slow for .5 seconds. If bruisers got strong MR itemization, it would make bruisers overly broken against AP carries. Offensive stats in combination with defensive stats are really hard to build, eventually you end up with the original Jax passive, which is lulzies op'd. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
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