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[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 87

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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
October 03 2012 09:08 GMT
#1721
On October 03 2012 17:48 OutlaW- wrote:
Real? I always feel that I could be playing him much better so I never really play him anymore because it makes me sick


I thought throwing up everywhere is what you're supposed to do as kog
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 03 2012 09:23 GMT
#1722
I wish we had team icons for the LoL subforum:<
Cackle™
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
October 03 2012 09:31 GMT
#1723
On October 03 2012 18:08 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 17:48 OutlaW- wrote:
Real? I always feel that I could be playing him much better so I never really play him anymore because it makes me sick


I thought throwing up everywhere is what you're supposed to do as kog

y but if the other guy cant get to you your dps is insane and after i watched people like chaox or aphromoo completely decimate people before they even got to them starting at around lvl 6 i tried playing him and failed like a chobo
so i just never play him anymore and tbh why should i, i like ez draven or varus much miore
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
October 03 2012 09:37 GMT
#1724
On October 03 2012 18:31 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 18:08 sob3k wrote:
On October 03 2012 17:48 OutlaW- wrote:
Real? I always feel that I could be playing him much better so I never really play him anymore because it makes me sick


I thought throwing up everywhere is what you're supposed to do as kog

y but if the other guy cant get to you your dps is insane and after i watched people like chaox or aphromoo completely decimate people before they even got to them starting at around lvl 6 i tried playing him and failed like a chobo
so i just never play him anymore and tbh why should i, i like ez draven or varus much miore


Quick trick is to slightly inch forward and then activate W, gets you that 2 / 3 more hits in before they run back.
KCCO!
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 10:13:37
October 03 2012 10:12 GMT
#1725
On October 03 2012 18:23 TheKefka wrote:
I wish we had team icons for the LoL subforum:<

Do you mean on TL ?
We would be instantly recognized by the dota 2 players. A nightmare man.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
October 03 2012 10:19 GMT
#1726
What support (if any) can help a first-pick Vayne survive in lane against Ezreal + Sona? So much poke, ugh.
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
October 03 2012 10:21 GMT
#1727
You dont firstpick vayne, because that happends then. Taric might be ok if you can pressure them even more, but its gonna be tough
KCCO!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 03 2012 10:25 GMT
#1728
ezreal alone crushes vayne, ez+sona? good night, pick soraka and help him to not fall behind more than 20cs during laning phase.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
October 03 2012 10:27 GMT
#1729
A good leona, or karma hue. Alistar isn't THAT bad if goes e first.
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 03 2012 10:30 GMT
#1730
On October 03 2012 19:12 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 18:23 TheKefka wrote:
I wish we had team icons for the LoL subforum:<

Do you mean on TL ?
We would be instantly recognized by the dota 2 players. A nightmare man.

I mean just icons that are displayed in this forum,would be kinda cool I guess,but since even the dota forum doesn't have team icons yet I guess it won't be any time soon.
Cackle™
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 03 2012 10:39 GMT
#1731
On October 03 2012 19:30 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 19:12 WhiteDog wrote:
On October 03 2012 18:23 TheKefka wrote:
I wish we had team icons for the LoL subforum:<

Do you mean on TL ?
We would be instantly recognized by the dota 2 players. A nightmare man.

I mean just icons that are displayed in this forum,would be kinda cool I guess,but since even the dota forum doesn't have team icons yet I guess it won't be any time soon.


we can do it fanatic islam style and burn things maybe we will get some icons ^^
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 03 2012 10:40 GMT
#1732
On October 03 2012 19:12 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 18:23 TheKefka wrote:
I wish we had team icons for the LoL subforum:<

Do you mean on TL ?
We would be instantly recognized by the dota 2 players. A nightmare man.

not if you pick clg
i think both the dota team and LoL NA team use the same exact icon but i could be wrong
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 03 2012 10:46 GMT
#1733
cmiiw, but isn't it possible to write a script to replace the icon with a team icon? (only visible to you / others with the same script installed i guess)
cool beans
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 16:06:31
October 03 2012 10:49 GMT
#1734
I'll start a thread in website feedback see if we can get them for worlds,but since it's tomorrow I kinda doubt it lol.
Maybe worth a shot tho.
K made the thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373047
Cackle™
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
October 03 2012 11:11 GMT
#1735
On October 03 2012 19:19 Haasts wrote:
What support (if any) can help a first-pick Vayne survive in lane against Ezreal + Sona? So much poke, ugh.

id get janna for several reasons: your shield helps vayne to tank pokes and get strong auto>q>e/auto trades in, which forces sona to use heal more often (drains mana much quicker than her q). Your knockup helps her disengage when ezreal hits W on her or when sona goes rambo on her/you and can set up for stuns with e. Your Ult helps to disengage from ults. Janna&Vayne also has a very strong lategame synergy and powerlevel in general so you are not forced to get an advantage in lane at all as you possibly outscale your opponents even if slightly behind.

Another generally strong support to pick vs sona is soraka because you can deny her pokes with e, you also passively help against the high amount of magical damage sona+ez do. They don't have the burst power to eat through your ws except if they have double ult + ignite and get enough damage in during the stun but if vayne is high enough in health by that time you can safe her with ult and she can counter ult them to disengage or even counter trade effectively.

I wouldn't get leona or taric vs this lane as it is one of the strongest (if not the strongest) poke lanes. blitzcrank can do well and has the strongest setup for vayne E but that as well can be very risky because with every hook you miss/cannot throw your lane will get behind in presence and thus CS.

lulu could do well for the same reason as soraka: you deny sona with W&auto and counterplay their ult combo with your R. But I really dont have enough exp with that pick
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 03 2012 11:22 GMT
#1736
Vayne is really bad against Ez/Sona in general.
I also don't like Janna with Vayne, but that's just personal opinion.

I'd probably play Nunu or Blitz and pray Sona overextends for her poke (most sonas do), and then allin on her. Don't try to go for Ez with Blitz, at least not when his E is up. You'll waste your mana, and never get anything done.

Soraka would be a pick that says "I want to survive laning with only ~30 cs behind and no kills on either side." Even with jungler ganks, kills will be haaaard. It's doable, if very passive. I don't recommend it because SoloQ ADs (I suppose it's soloQ if you have a Vayne firstpick) don't know how to play passive/defensive for shit. At least not until they get whacked to 20% HP without doing anything for it...
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#1737
What do you max on Alistar btw? From what I recall his heal is much more effective (hp/mana ratio) at level 1, and it's spammable anyway, so I just go R>Q>W>E for cdr on my cc spells, but I see people max E and play super passively.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 03 2012 11:28 GMT
#1738
I just really hate any time I see a vayne picked on my side, and love when a vayne is picked on the other side. I can never seem to be able to support her enough, unless the vayne is just completely outclassing the other side by herself already. Whenever a Vayne is picked on the other team, it usually means that they can't do anything unless they get some ganks, which I find is pretty hard to do with someone like Vayne and a support appropriate for her.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 03 2012 11:28 GMT
#1739
On October 03 2012 20:25 Alaric wrote:
What do you max on Alistar btw? From what I recall his heal is much more effective (hp/mana ratio) at level 1, and it's spammable anyway, so I just go R>Q>W>E for cdr on my cc spells, but I see people max E and play super passively.


Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait... you see people playing Alistar? I wish I could
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 12:04:46
October 03 2012 12:04 GMT
#1740
The guy in question plays him in blind premades, E max CV-flash Alistar. And they only rarely win the lane, his AD carry isn't bad with Vayne so they often win in the end but because of her scaling, not the laning phase. So I never thought of his setup as really good.
Also Morgana still banned a lot at my Elo (I managed to force a game w/o Morg banned, and nobody picked her... I was surprised), so that's one less ban for Alistar.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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