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On October 03 2012 17:48 OutlaW- wrote: Real? I always feel that I could be playing him much better so I never really play him anymore because it makes me sick
I thought throwing up everywhere is what you're supposed to do as kog
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I wish we had team icons for the LoL subforum:<
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On October 03 2012 18:08 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 17:48 OutlaW- wrote: Real? I always feel that I could be playing him much better so I never really play him anymore because it makes me sick I thought throwing up everywhere is what you're supposed to do as kog y but if the other guy cant get to you your dps is insane and after i watched people like chaox or aphromoo completely decimate people before they even got to them starting at around lvl 6 i tried playing him and failed like a chobo so i just never play him anymore and tbh why should i, i like ez draven or varus much miore
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On October 03 2012 18:31 OutlaW- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 18:08 sob3k wrote:On October 03 2012 17:48 OutlaW- wrote: Real? I always feel that I could be playing him much better so I never really play him anymore because it makes me sick I thought throwing up everywhere is what you're supposed to do as kog y but if the other guy cant get to you your dps is insane and after i watched people like chaox or aphromoo completely decimate people before they even got to them starting at around lvl 6 i tried playing him and failed like a chobo so i just never play him anymore and tbh why should i, i like ez draven or varus much miore
Quick trick is to slightly inch forward and then activate W, gets you that 2 / 3 more hits in before they run back.
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On October 03 2012 18:23 TheKefka wrote: I wish we had team icons for the LoL subforum:< Do you mean on TL ? We would be instantly recognized by the dota 2 players. A nightmare man.
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What support (if any) can help a first-pick Vayne survive in lane against Ezreal + Sona? So much poke, ugh.
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You dont firstpick vayne, because that happends then. Taric might be ok if you can pressure them even more, but its gonna be tough
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ezreal alone crushes vayne, ez+sona? good night, pick soraka and help him to not fall behind more than 20cs during laning phase.
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A good leona, or karma hue. Alistar isn't THAT bad if goes e first.
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On October 03 2012 19:12 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 18:23 TheKefka wrote: I wish we had team icons for the LoL subforum:< Do you mean on TL ? We would be instantly recognized by the dota 2 players. A nightmare man. I mean just icons that are displayed in this forum,would be kinda cool I guess,but since even the dota forum doesn't have team icons yet I guess it won't be any time soon.
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On October 03 2012 19:30 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 19:12 WhiteDog wrote:On October 03 2012 18:23 TheKefka wrote: I wish we had team icons for the LoL subforum:< Do you mean on TL ? We would be instantly recognized by the dota 2 players. A nightmare man. I mean just icons that are displayed in this forum,would be kinda cool I guess,but since even the dota forum doesn't have team icons yet I guess it won't be any time soon.
we can do it fanatic islam style and burn things maybe we will get some icons ^^
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On October 03 2012 19:12 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 18:23 TheKefka wrote: I wish we had team icons for the LoL subforum:< Do you mean on TL ? We would be instantly recognized by the dota 2 players. A nightmare man. not if you pick clg i think both the dota team and LoL NA team use the same exact icon but i could be wrong
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cmiiw, but isn't it possible to write a script to replace the icon with a team icon? (only visible to you / others with the same script installed i guess)
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On October 03 2012 19:19 Haasts wrote: What support (if any) can help a first-pick Vayne survive in lane against Ezreal + Sona? So much poke, ugh. id get janna for several reasons: your shield helps vayne to tank pokes and get strong auto>q>e/auto trades in, which forces sona to use heal more often (drains mana much quicker than her q). Your knockup helps her disengage when ezreal hits W on her or when sona goes rambo on her/you and can set up for stuns with e. Your Ult helps to disengage from ults. Janna&Vayne also has a very strong lategame synergy and powerlevel in general so you are not forced to get an advantage in lane at all as you possibly outscale your opponents even if slightly behind.
Another generally strong support to pick vs sona is soraka because you can deny her pokes with e, you also passively help against the high amount of magical damage sona+ez do. They don't have the burst power to eat through your ws except if they have double ult + ignite and get enough damage in during the stun but if vayne is high enough in health by that time you can safe her with ult and she can counter ult them to disengage or even counter trade effectively.
I wouldn't get leona or taric vs this lane as it is one of the strongest (if not the strongest) poke lanes. blitzcrank can do well and has the strongest setup for vayne E but that as well can be very risky because with every hook you miss/cannot throw your lane will get behind in presence and thus CS.
lulu could do well for the same reason as soraka: you deny sona with W&auto and counterplay their ult combo with your R. But I really dont have enough exp with that pick
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Vayne is really bad against Ez/Sona in general. I also don't like Janna with Vayne, but that's just personal opinion.
I'd probably play Nunu or Blitz and pray Sona overextends for her poke (most sonas do), and then allin on her. Don't try to go for Ez with Blitz, at least not when his E is up. You'll waste your mana, and never get anything done.
Soraka would be a pick that says "I want to survive laning with only ~30 cs behind and no kills on either side." Even with jungler ganks, kills will be haaaard. It's doable, if very passive. I don't recommend it because SoloQ ADs (I suppose it's soloQ if you have a Vayne firstpick) don't know how to play passive/defensive for shit. At least not until they get whacked to 20% HP without doing anything for it...
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What do you max on Alistar btw? From what I recall his heal is much more effective (hp/mana ratio) at level 1, and it's spammable anyway, so I just go R>Q>W>E for cdr on my cc spells, but I see people max E and play super passively.
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I just really hate any time I see a vayne picked on my side, and love when a vayne is picked on the other side. I can never seem to be able to support her enough, unless the vayne is just completely outclassing the other side by herself already. Whenever a Vayne is picked on the other team, it usually means that they can't do anything unless they get some ganks, which I find is pretty hard to do with someone like Vayne and a support appropriate for her.
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On October 03 2012 20:25 Alaric wrote: What do you max on Alistar btw? From what I recall his heal is much more effective (hp/mana ratio) at level 1, and it's spammable anyway, so I just go R>Q>W>E for cdr on my cc spells, but I see people max E and play super passively.
Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait... you see people playing Alistar? I wish I could
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The guy in question plays him in blind premades, E max CV-flash Alistar. And they only rarely win the lane, his AD carry isn't bad with Vayne so they often win in the end but because of her scaling, not the laning phase. So I never thought of his setup as really good. Also Morgana still banned a lot at my Elo (I managed to force a game w/o Morg banned, and nobody picked her... I was surprised), so that's one less ban for Alistar.
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