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On September 28 2012 17:54 TwoToneTerran wrote:Even after the buffs, Syndra requires more work than any other champion to set up her damage (short of heimerdinger, maybe), and it's still mediocre at best. I really like the feel of the champ but I can't justify playing her 
I actually think she is very strong now. In fact I bet Riot knows that they just overbuffed her (her Q's ratio was at 0.55 during some sort of special event and a Rioter said at the time she was "OP"... right now her Q's ratio is at 0.6 and the base damage is increased as well).
Syndra's W is now really hard to dodge, and in case she hit you with W or E, she can follow up with another Q and (sometimes) gib you with R. Her laning phase is pretty strong, and her utilities are fantastic.
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Since I've started playing ranked again all my losses were -14 with some -13 here and there, and all but one of my wins were +11 (with some +12, the exception being a +13). Some had obvious premades from the Elo range, but most did not. Am I simply unlucky?
Also saw a Blitz hook go right through somebody. And yesterday Naut Q. Meh.
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Blah, I don't have time to play enough to make my 1/10 game contribution matter. Given that I win 1 game out of 10 (the other I either win or lose b/c of leavers) and I play (tops!) 10 games a week. That's a whooping 10-15 elo gained / week.
Now, I'm not saying this is unfair, I'm just saying I won't be seeing 1300 before season 3. Now, S3 will answer a string of interesting questions for me. Like, do I deserve to be 1300+? Is there any difference in game quality at 1300? Will I finally be able to play my Shamrock Malphite or Morgana (permabanned at 1100)?
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On September 28 2012 19:53 Cuddle wrote:
Blah, I don't have time to play enough to make my 1/10 game contribution matter. Given that I win 1 game out of 10 (the other I either win or lose b/c of leavers) and I play (tops!) 10 games a week. That's a whooping 10-15 elo gained / week.
Now, I'm not saying this is unfair, I'm just saying I won't be seeing 1300 before season 3. Now, S3 will answer a string of interesting questions for me. Like, do I deserve to be 1300+? Is there any difference in game quality at 1300? Will I finally be able to play my Shamrock Malphite or Morgana (permabanned at 1100)?
That is discounting every game where there are no leavers or equal number of leavers. If you are good enough you should win all/grand majority of those as well.
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Monthly Elohell discussion: Covered.
Yay.
Now to more pressing matters. I propose the following topics:
- Syndra OP as balls
- Kahzix OP as balls
- Rengar OP as balls
- Eve OP as balls
- DFG OP as balls (told you so!)
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On September 28 2012 18:27 FreshVegetables wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 18:02 NovaTheFeared wrote:
I find the Elo Hell discussion funny. If people are really bad at that elo, worse than you, there's 5 chances the AFK yi appears on the other team and 4 chances he can appear on yours. Central limit theorem that shit and mass games to gain elo freely. The reality is that there are holes in your own game that keep you "stuck" for many games below where you think you ought to be. Yes i'm aware of this. But does this take into account the times your forced to play support? This morning I played 2 rankeds and both of the times I was last pick >_< Ended up losing both games. Oh well, might as well wait for next reset because this aint fun anymore. Should just stick to those premades 
Of course it does. There's nothing magical about support role that means you insta lose. There are supports near the very top of the ladder. The only thing that matters is outperforming your current elo. If you do you will gain elo, if not you won't.
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On September 28 2012 19:53 Cuddle wrote:
Blah, I don't have time to play enough to make my 1/10 game contribution matter. Given that I win 1 game out of 10 (the other I either win or lose b/c of leavers) and I play (tops!) 10 games a week. That's a whooping 10-15 elo gained / week.
Now, I'm not saying this is unfair, I'm just saying I won't be seeing 1300 before season 3. Now, S3 will answer a string of interesting questions for me. Like, do I deserve to be 1300+? Is there any difference in game quality at 1300? Will I finally be able to play my Shamrock Malphite or Morgana (permabanned at 1100)?
Morg and Malph still permabanned up to 1400+ (where I stand currently, +11 -14 so harsh to me :'( ), and I was shocked to notice some players I saw at 1300 were far worse than people at 1100 (and I saw people at 1100 that were def a lot better than the majority of the 1300 players I saw).
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On September 28 2012 20:19 Dandel Ion wrote:Monthly Elohell discussion: Covered. Yay. Now to more pressing matters. I propose the following topics: - Syndra OP as balls
- Kahzix OP as balls
- Rengar OP as balls
- Eve OP as balls
- DFG OP as balls (told you so!)
and we did Gold/10 dicussion, too. We were really productive this month!
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Didn't we speak about ArPen/AD too, just a few days ago? October is almost here, let's make sure not to forget anything.
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This elohell discussion already counts for October btw, we had one at the start of september already.
So save it for november guise.
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I think the problem of DFG is that it also provides CDR, which makes it really broken. Currently it feels like the best CDR item for an AP, while Grail is only suitable for specific champions, Nashor's and Morello's are extremely situational.
I think it would be better if DFG has no CDR bonus and gives, say, 100 AP instead. It seems a bit more fair IMO.
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On September 28 2012 20:42 Sufficiency wrote:
I think the problem of DFG is that it also provides CDR, which makes it really broken. Currently it feels like the best CDR item for an AP, while Grail is only suitable for specific champions, Nashor's and Morello's are extremely situational.
I think it would be better if DFG has no CDR bonus and gives, say, 100 AP instead. It seems a bit more fair IMO.
Well, the main culprit is the active imo. It scales with AP as well, and... what can I say, you can probably stick that shit on AP Gangplank and it will work out very well because of the additional nuke.
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On September 28 2012 20:45 Nikon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 20:42 Sufficiency wrote:
I think the problem of DFG is that it also provides CDR, which makes it really broken. Currently it feels like the best CDR item for an AP, while Grail is only suitable for specific champions, Nashor's and Morello's are extremely situational.
I think it would be better if DFG has no CDR bonus and gives, say, 100 AP instead. It seems a bit more fair IMO. Well, the main culprit is the active imo. It scales with AP as well, and... what can I say, you can probably stick that shit on AP Gangplank and it will work out very well because of the additional nuke.
I think the active is fine. It does provide a lot of burst, but also at a 60 seconds cooldown. Overall the active does not provide a lot of DPS...... the CDR bonus, however, does affect DPS by a great deal.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
oh lol that throw from doublelift was nice.
They attacked the enemy nexus already but instead of finishing it. DL decided that the game is already won and sucided into the enemy fountain. But in the end they lost ^^
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On September 28 2012 21:00 Chexx wrote:
oh lol that throw from doublelift was nice.
They attacked the enemy nexus already but instead of finishing it. DL decided that the game is already won and sucided into the enemy fountain. But in the end they lost ^^
Didn't that game, but I watched some of his games earlier today. He carried Dan Dinh very hard, still DL is top 3 AD carry in term of mechanic. Watching DL play Vayne is just pure joy.
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On September 28 2012 20:42 Sufficiency wrote:
I think the problem of DFG is that it also provides CDR, which makes it really broken. Currently it feels like the best CDR item for an AP, while Grail is only suitable for specific champions, Nashor's and Morello's are extremely situational.
I think it would be better if DFG has no CDR bonus and gives, say, 100 AP instead. It seems a bit more fair IMO.
Then we would have like no CDR itemization, building morellos grail is like absurd mana regen wastage that nobody needs
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league has way too few items anyway, id nerf IE, hat, DFG and buff the less popular items for more variety
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On September 28 2012 21:49 OutlaW- wrote:
league has way too few items anyway, id nerf IE, hat, DFG and buff the less popular items for more variety
Too few viable items ye. Especially the ad & ap roles are very limited in item choices.
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