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[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 22

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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 28 2012 10:22 GMT
#421
On September 28 2012 17:54 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Even after the buffs, Syndra requires more work than any other champion to set up her damage (short of heimerdinger, maybe), and it's still mediocre at best. I really like the feel of the champ but I can't justify playing her


I actually think she is very strong now. In fact I bet Riot knows that they just overbuffed her (her Q's ratio was at 0.55 during some sort of special event and a Rioter said at the time she was "OP"... right now her Q's ratio is at 0.6 and the base damage is increased as well).

Syndra's W is now really hard to dodge, and in case she hit you with W or E, she can follow up with another Q and (sometimes) gib you with R. Her laning phase is pretty strong, and her utilities are fantastic.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 10:53:19
September 28 2012 10:46 GMT
#422
Since I've started playing ranked again all my losses were -14 with some -13 here and there, and all but one of my wins were +11 (with some +12, the exception being a +13). Some had obvious premades from the Elo range, but most did not. Am I simply unlucky?

Also saw a Blitz hook go right through somebody. And yesterday Naut Q. Meh.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
September 28 2012 10:48 GMT
#423
no, its a conspiracy
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
September 28 2012 10:53 GMT
#424
Blah, I don't have time to play enough to make my 1/10 game contribution matter. Given that I win 1 game out of 10 (the other I either win or lose b/c of leavers) and I play (tops!) 10 games a week. That's a whooping 10-15 elo gained / week.

Now, I'm not saying this is unfair, I'm just saying I won't be seeing 1300 before season 3. Now, S3 will answer a string of interesting questions for me. Like, do I deserve to be 1300+? Is there any difference in game quality at 1300? Will I finally be able to play my Shamrock Malphite or Morgana (permabanned at 1100)?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 28 2012 11:09 GMT
#425
On September 28 2012 19:53 Cuddle wrote:
Blah, I don't have time to play enough to make my 1/10 game contribution matter. Given that I win 1 game out of 10 (the other I either win or lose b/c of leavers) and I play (tops!) 10 games a week. That's a whooping 10-15 elo gained / week.

Now, I'm not saying this is unfair, I'm just saying I won't be seeing 1300 before season 3. Now, S3 will answer a string of interesting questions for me. Like, do I deserve to be 1300+? Is there any difference in game quality at 1300? Will I finally be able to play my Shamrock Malphite or Morgana (permabanned at 1100)?

That is discounting every game where there are no leavers or equal number of leavers. If you are good enough you should win all/grand majority of those as well.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 28 2012 11:19 GMT
#426
Monthly Elohell discussion: Covered.
Yay.

Now to more pressing matters. I propose the following topics:
  • Syndra OP as balls
  • Kahzix OP as balls
  • Rengar OP as balls
  • Eve OP as balls
  • DFG OP as balls (told you so!)
A backwards poet writes inverse.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
September 28 2012 11:22 GMT
#427
On September 28 2012 18:27 FreshVegetables wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 18:02 NovaTheFeared wrote:
I find the Elo Hell discussion funny. If people are really bad at that elo, worse than you, there's 5 chances the AFK yi appears on the other team and 4 chances he can appear on yours. Central limit theorem that shit and mass games to gain elo freely. The reality is that there are holes in your own game that keep you "stuck" for many games below where you think you ought to be.


Yes i'm aware of this. But does this take into account the times your forced to play support? This morning I played 2 rankeds and both of the times I was last pick >_< Ended up losing both games. Oh well, might as well wait for next reset because this aint fun anymore. Should just stick to those premades


Of course it does. There's nothing magical about support role that means you insta lose. There are supports near the very top of the ladder. The only thing that matters is outperforming your current elo. If you do you will gain elo, if not you won't.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 28 2012 11:27 GMT
#428
On September 28 2012 19:53 Cuddle wrote:
Blah, I don't have time to play enough to make my 1/10 game contribution matter. Given that I win 1 game out of 10 (the other I either win or lose b/c of leavers) and I play (tops!) 10 games a week. That's a whooping 10-15 elo gained / week.

Now, I'm not saying this is unfair, I'm just saying I won't be seeing 1300 before season 3. Now, S3 will answer a string of interesting questions for me. Like, do I deserve to be 1300+? Is there any difference in game quality at 1300? Will I finally be able to play my Shamrock Malphite or Morgana (permabanned at 1100)?

Morg and Malph still permabanned up to 1400+ (where I stand currently, +11 -14 so harsh to me :'( ), and I was shocked to notice some players I saw at 1300 were far worse than people at 1100 (and I saw people at 1100 that were def a lot better than the majority of the 1300 players I saw).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 28 2012 11:32 GMT
#429
On September 28 2012 20:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
Monthly Elohell discussion: Covered.
Yay.

Now to more pressing matters. I propose the following topics:
  • Syndra OP as balls
  • Kahzix OP as balls
  • Rengar OP as balls
  • Eve OP as balls
  • DFG OP as balls (told you so!)


and we did Gold/10 dicussion, too. We were really productive this month!
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 28 2012 11:34 GMT
#430
Didn't we speak about ArPen/AD too, just a few days ago? October is almost here, let's make sure not to forget anything.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 28 2012 11:40 GMT
#431
This elohell discussion already counts for October btw, we had one at the start of september already.

So save it for november guise.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 28 2012 11:42 GMT
#432
I think the problem of DFG is that it also provides CDR, which makes it really broken. Currently it feels like the best CDR item for an AP, while Grail is only suitable for specific champions, Nashor's and Morello's are extremely situational.

I think it would be better if DFG has no CDR bonus and gives, say, 100 AP instead. It seems a bit more fair IMO.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
September 28 2012 11:45 GMT
#433
On September 28 2012 20:42 Sufficiency wrote:
I think the problem of DFG is that it also provides CDR, which makes it really broken. Currently it feels like the best CDR item for an AP, while Grail is only suitable for specific champions, Nashor's and Morello's are extremely situational.

I think it would be better if DFG has no CDR bonus and gives, say, 100 AP instead. It seems a bit more fair IMO.


Well, the main culprit is the active imo. It scales with AP as well, and... what can I say, you can probably stick that shit on AP Gangplank and it will work out very well because of the additional nuke.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 28 2012 11:58 GMT
#434
On September 28 2012 20:45 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 20:42 Sufficiency wrote:
I think the problem of DFG is that it also provides CDR, which makes it really broken. Currently it feels like the best CDR item for an AP, while Grail is only suitable for specific champions, Nashor's and Morello's are extremely situational.

I think it would be better if DFG has no CDR bonus and gives, say, 100 AP instead. It seems a bit more fair IMO.


Well, the main culprit is the active imo. It scales with AP as well, and... what can I say, you can probably stick that shit on AP Gangplank and it will work out very well because of the additional nuke.


I think the active is fine. It does provide a lot of burst, but also at a 60 seconds cooldown. Overall the active does not provide a lot of DPS...... the CDR bonus, however, does affect DPS by a great deal.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 28 2012 12:00 GMT
#435
oh lol that throw from doublelift was nice.

They attacked the enemy nexus already but instead of finishing it. DL decided that the game is already won and sucided into the enemy fountain. But in the end they lost ^^
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 28 2012 12:13 GMT
#436
On September 28 2012 21:00 Chexx wrote:
oh lol that throw from doublelift was nice.

They attacked the enemy nexus already but instead of finishing it. DL decided that the game is already won and sucided into the enemy fountain. But in the end they lost ^^

Didn't that game, but I watched some of his games earlier today. He carried Dan Dinh very hard, still DL is top 3 AD carry in term of mechanic. Watching DL play Vayne is just pure joy.
Terran
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 28 2012 12:13 GMT
#437
On September 28 2012 20:42 Sufficiency wrote:
I think the problem of DFG is that it also provides CDR, which makes it really broken. Currently it feels like the best CDR item for an AP, while Grail is only suitable for specific champions, Nashor's and Morello's are extremely situational.

I think it would be better if DFG has no CDR bonus and gives, say, 100 AP instead. It seems a bit more fair IMO.


Then we would have like no CDR itemization, building morellos grail is like absurd mana regen wastage that nobody needs
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
September 28 2012 12:49 GMT
#438
league has way too few items anyway, id nerf IE, hat, DFG and buff the less popular items for more variety
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#439
On September 28 2012 21:49 OutlaW- wrote:
league has way too few items anyway, id nerf IE, hat, DFG and buff the less popular items for more variety

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=29695215#29695215

Don't know how extensive it will be, but it's coming.
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
September 28 2012 13:12 GMT
#440
On September 28 2012 21:49 OutlaW- wrote:
league has way too few items anyway, id nerf IE, hat, DFG and buff the less popular items for more variety


Too few viable items ye. Especially the ad & ap roles are very limited in item choices.
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