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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On October 13 2012 17:07 UniversalSnip wrote: Top lane is fucking hell right now. I uninstalled for a couple weeks I was so unhappy with the heroes up there right now. ya i quit toplane like 2 weeks ago looool | ||
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Telegnosis
United States49 Posts
On October 13 2012 17:51 TheKefka wrote: Yea but galios ult isn't a projectile it's just a channel that does damage after it's over or interrupted and the damage is instant. The reason I ask is because I was low health and I got ambushed by a ryze.He managed to throw a Q at me right before I exhausted him and flashed over a wall so it chased me and I died.I can't tell if the ryze was just fed or the exhaust didn't work on the Q coz I forgot to check the death recap for amount of damage. I'm pretty sure all damage in LoL is calculated as it is dealt using the values at that time. edit-Damage over time doesn't exist in my world.  | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
Anyone know how to build her well? I've just been going DFG abyssal GA dcap and it's been working out decently i guess | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
Rod Breslau @Slasher According to Riot CEO Brandon Beck today, a tournament LAN version of LoL is being created and will be used for this weekend's finals. | ||
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:16 Scip wrote: I mean, top lane there's Yorick, Rengar and Jayce. That's 3 champions that are all really good and stuff. And then you have situational counters like Nidalee against Yorick. I don't know why people talk about these "toxic" toplanes. The amount of top laners you can play viably is limited, so what? You can't jungle or AD carry just anything either. You have like 6 viable AD carries and like 5 supports. I don't mind that the roster is centralized, it needs to be to a certain extent to not make the game a massive clusterhack of chaos. Its the fact that its so snowbally and the meta is to play like a bitch till jungler comes. Toxic champions make it hard to reverse snowball and they snowball so easily. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:24 beefhamburger wrote: It's not "being created" it was there all along. | ||
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:16 Scip wrote: I mean, top lane there's Yorick, Rengar and Jayce. That's 3 champions that are all really good and stuff. And then you have situational counters like Nidalee against Yorick. I don't know why people talk about these "toxic" toplanes. The amount of top laners you can play viably is limited, so what? You can't jungle or AD carry just anything either. You have like 6 viable AD carries and like 5 supports. I don't mind that the roster is centralized, it needs to be to a certain extent to not make the game a massive clusterhack of chaos. Support diversity is rather big tbh, especially since the world series and stuff like zyra/lux being picked up as support (and doing well). Still not as diverse as midlane though; so many viable mid champs atm. On October 13 2012 20:27 Kouda wrote: Its the fact that its so snowbally and the meta is to play like a bitch till jungler comes. Toxic champions make it hard to reverse snowball and they snowball so easily. Do I hear singed? | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
On October 13 2012 21:30 Schwopzi wrote: Support diversity is rather big tbh, especially since the world series and stuff like zyra/lux being picked up as support (and doing well). Still not as diverse as midlane though; so many viable mid champs atm. I just laned against a Chogath support and this guy is damn tanky. T.T With two CC spells, he could be somewhat viable maybe ? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:16 Scip wrote: I mean, top lane there's Yorick, Rengar and Jayce. That's 3 champions that are all really good and stuff. And then you have situational counters like Nidalee against Yorick. I don't know why people talk about these "toxic" toplanes. The amount of top laners you can play viably is limited, so what? You can't jungle or AD carry just anything either. You have like 6 viable AD carries and like 5 supports. I don't mind that the roster is centralized, it needs to be to a certain extent to not make the game a massive clusterhack of chaos. Hm... WW/Irelia/Shen/Olaf/Jax/Wukong/Pantheon/Malphite/Nunu/Udyr/somewhat Swain. That's the list of my top laners, so 10-11 isn't that weak, but between those that are easy to counter/camp if I pick them early, those that are banned, I don't have that much left (since I'm above 1300 it's hard as fuck to pick Pantheon w/o getting camped the fuck out of top lane, and considering that I'm really camped a lot as soon as I take the littlest advantage... ). Yorick still shits on most of them (and it's hard to pick Nunu top w/o eating a dodge), and don't get me started on Jayce (yeah, I know, "Irelia beats him, just Q when he Es you away", well you still can't engage him while he can harass you, and if he engages you and you don't instantly put yourself between his tower and him and/or have MS quints while he doesn't, he'll just run while you're knockbacked and get out of your Q range—just needs to press R to get out). I managed to beat Rengar as Jax and Wukong (but that's mostly the Rengar being bad I believe, since I could dictate trades instead of him charging 2-3 ferocity as soon as possible then rushing a bush). Heck, even Jax vs Irelia is a shitty match-up because you won't outtrade her till level 5 or so (I mean not enough to make her have second thoughts), and after that you'll push the lane every time you trade with her, so the jungler will just come and camp you to make sure that you don't get enough ahead. So unless you wait for him to gank bot before you engage on Irelia, you'll never be able to kill her before she reaches her tower or he arrives top, and since you just pushed the lane without shoving her out of it, you can kiss your farm goodbye while you stare at that asshole sat in your bush wondering why yours doesn't gank and countergank the shit out of him. Meh. It still comes with my personal level (can win most lanes, can't trash my opponents hard and fast enough for them to have irremediably lost before the jungler decides to camp me and make it at best even), and of course the lack of counterganks amongst junglers, but it's still frustrating. esp. when your lane opponent is a baddie but you can't do anything about it and have to pray your other lanes aren't getting outplayed or your jungler can (and have the awareness to) help them. (Well according to Smash I could add Xin to my roaster so I can destroy Yorick, but as long as I don't play as 5s the jungler matter will still remain and being so dependant on somebody you don't know at all is frustrating. Though it's got as much to do with matchmaking as it has with LoL design.) | ||
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Sermokala
United States13974 Posts
pretty funny stuff. for people that don't know what happened at world championships basically happens at blizzcons sc2 tournament every year but they don't have LAN and we do  . | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
Jayce is usually banned but you can play mundo or irelia or again anything with sustain who can passive farm in the lane. Rengars always banned and i never see him picked so I have no idea how strong that guy is in top. Nidalee is basically the same thing as the other gay heroes but more tanky/mobile and kinda hits harder with items and baits you into trading more with cougar form but still manageable with sustain heroes. What are you guys playing that makes top lane so shitty? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On October 13 2012 22:32 Slayer91 wrote: Yoricks seems fucking easy to lane against. Just pick anyone with sustain and play passive. Malphite works, Chogath should work, Nasus works, Irelia works, Udyr works. In fact I don't think anything I really play top lane doesnt work. Jayce is usually banned but you can play mundo or irelia or again anything with sustain who can passive farm in the lane. Rengars always banned and i never see him picked so I have no idea how strong that guy is in top. Nidalee is basically the same thing as the other gay heroes but more tanky/mobile and kinda hits harder with items and baits you into trading more with cougar form but still manageable with sustain heroes. What are you guys playing that makes top lane so shitty? You can't play passively against Yorick/Jayce because they have the means to harass you, even under your own tower, but most of the champions can't outtrade them (or come out ahead after the sustaining each will do after the trade) either, so they're bitches to lane against. You can't ignore them, but you can't be proactive against them. Also in the case of Jayce, he'll scale better than most of the top laners anyway, and Yorick will be a beast in the midgame if he's farmed, while still having his ult. Of course you could play passive and gank them when they're under your tower, but it won't work on Jayce (because fuck you Jayce) and even for Yorick you're still relying on your jungler... which is frustrating. Nidalee never was a problem for me (with Irelia or Pantheon, guess I could use Wukong too, or Olaf could work if mine wasn't full of dust), comparatively. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On October 13 2012 22:32 Slayer91 wrote: Yoricks seems fucking easy to lane against. Just pick anyone with sustain and play passive. Malphite works, Chogath should work, Nasus works, Irelia works, Udyr works. In fact I don't think anything I really play top lane doesnt work. Jayce is usually banned but you can play mundo or irelia or again anything with sustain who can passive farm in the lane. Rengars always banned and i never see him picked so I have no idea how strong that guy is in top. Nidalee is basically the same thing as the other gay heroes but more tanky/mobile and kinda hits harder with items and baits you into trading more with cougar form but still manageable with sustain heroes. What are you guys playing that makes top lane so shitty? Rengar is just horrible because he is in the bush, jump to cs, jump to harass you. It's not that he is necessarily the best 1vs1 top laner, it's more that he is just toxic as some said, just boring overall to play against, because of this fucking jump bush jump bullshit mecanics (not to mention his heal) that makes him almost impossible to flee against and almost impossible to properly gank. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
irelia is different she has to trade with both but all the other champs i mentioned can just play passive and sustain the harass easily enough | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13974 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
you're confusing yourself here either you can trade or you can't if you can't trade you need to sustain his harass if you can't do either you get zoned If he tries to use spells only when you go for cs you just get the cs and run from the ghouls, you'll take minimal damage especially when W is on CD and its pretty long cd. Also he has to play really agressively to play like that and it makes him massively easier to gank | ||
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