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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
October 13 2012 04:56 GMT
#3221
i heard annie is supposed to counter kat, why? doesnt seem like she has anything that makes her particularly strong vs kat
TranslatorBaa!
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 13 2012 05:01 GMT
#3222
On October 13 2012 13:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
i heard annie is supposed to counter kat, why? doesnt seem like she has anything that makes her particularly strong vs kat

point + click CC is all you need to rape kat in lane
true story
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
October 13 2012 05:03 GMT
#3223
wouldn't ryze be better.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 13 2012 05:10 GMT
#3224
Fuck Kat. Fuck Eve. Both should be removed from the game
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 13 2012 05:18 GMT
#3225
I dont play AP mid but I guess if Kat wants to go down on annie.

TIBBEEEEEEERRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZ + additional stun and shield
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9807 Posts
October 13 2012 05:29 GMT
#3226
On October 13 2012 14:18 Chexx wrote:
I dont play AP mid but I guess if Kat wants to go down on annie.

TIBBEEEEEEERRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZ + additional stun and shield

If kat went down on annie she'd probably get arrested.

that's a stun right?
boomer hands
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 13 2012 05:32 GMT
#3227
On October 13 2012 14:03 samthesaluki wrote:
wouldn't ryze be better.

Ryze has a root not a stun
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ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
October 13 2012 05:43 GMT
#3228
On October 13 2012 14:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 14:03 samthesaluki wrote:
wouldn't ryze be better.

Ryze has a root not a stun
True, but the person said 'Caster with point and click crowd control', Ryze still fits.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 13 2012 05:51 GMT
#3229
Question: do targeted skills work like autos (distance is calculated from the centre of your character to the EDGE of the target, or is it to the CENTRE like all AOE skills).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
October 13 2012 05:52 GMT
#3230
On October 13 2012 14:43 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 14:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 13 2012 14:03 samthesaluki wrote:
wouldn't ryze be better.

Ryze has a root not a stun
True, but the person said 'Caster with point and click crowd control', Ryze still fits.

Ryze does not beat Kat.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
October 13 2012 05:52 GMT
#3231
except kat's damage these days isnt even her ult qew is a bazillion damage and annie's spells are short range + cant keep up with kat's manaless q spam bullshit

kat just takes defensive tree to laugh off autos and then qew annie everytime its on cd, no way annie is making it to 6 in one piece ;o
TranslatorBaa!
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 13 2012 05:56 GMT
#3232
On October 13 2012 14:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
except kat's damage these days isnt even her ult qew is a bazillion damage and annie's spells are short range + cant keep up with kat's manaless q spam bullshit

kat just takes defensive tree to laugh off autos and then qew annie everytime its on cd, no way annie is making it to 6 in one piece ;o

Q does no damage now x:
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
October 13 2012 05:58 GMT
#3233
mantheon mid is obv the answer
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
October 13 2012 06:03 GMT
#3234
On October 13 2012 14:56 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 14:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
except kat's damage these days isnt even her ult qew is a bazillion damage and annie's spells are short range + cant keep up with kat's manaless q spam bullshit

kat just takes defensive tree to laugh off autos and then qew annie everytime its on cd, no way annie is making it to 6 in one piece ;o

Q does no damage now x:


you throw it for free its 50 range more and costs no mana @_@
TranslatorBaa!
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 13 2012 06:10 GMT
#3235
queue into shake in 5s again zzzz
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 06:27:42
October 13 2012 06:22 GMT
#3236
Been watching Bischu stream, damn he's actually really good.


lol, durrhurrderp dying to navitar's cass. made me lulz.
liftlift > tsm
armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 06:33:25
October 13 2012 06:24 GMT
#3237
On October 13 2012 15:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
you throw it for free its 50 range more and costs no mana @_@

If you throw Q immediately every single time it's off cooldown it usually won't even outpace your opponent's hp regen until at least level 5(edit: hero level, so level 3 q), and they'll have a while after that until you could burn through their potions. And occasionally you need to use a Q cooldown to cs, or it'll come off cd during a time when the opponent has no reason to come into range. You won't get any damage to stick without going into Annie's range.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 13 2012 06:27 GMT
#3238
Hey guys, does anybody know what kind of stuff they are selling at the finals? I know it is different than what is in the store, and I want to know in advance so I can plan :3
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 13 2012 06:31 GMT
#3239
for Blitzcrank, after maxing Q first, is it better to max W or E first or is it situational depending on whether lane is behind, even, or ahead of opposing lane?

maxing W first allows for potentially setting up better hooks

maxing E first allows for more fight disruption which can make the difference in skirmishes in the early to mid game although landing a Q tends to already be advantage enough
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 13 2012 06:36 GMT
#3240
On October 13 2012 15:31 udgnim wrote:
for Blitzcrank, after maxing Q first, is it better to max W or E first or is it situational depending on whether lane is behind, even, or ahead of opposing lane?

maxing W first allows for potentially setting up better hooks

maxing E first allows for more fight disruption which can make the difference in skirmishes in the early to mid game although landing a Q tends to already be advantage enough

Support blitz i'm guessing? I use to max Q first, but Max E is actually much better. The chances are, you're not gunna be abusing Q off of every cooldown, you simply don't have the early mana for it. And generally you want to pick your fights, not indiscriminately grabbing all the time. The change in CD E will have more impact than the CD on Q. Since in short fights/skirmishes you'll be abusing E way more.
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