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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 14 2012 16:43 GMT
#741
i don't understand the deal lol, guitar is pretty freakin good. my opinion is colored because he's also so fucking helpful every single time i message him, but i really do think he's a solid player
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
September 14 2012 16:44 GMT
#742
On September 15 2012 01:28 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 01:19 FR4CT4L wrote:
With all this talk of gold rank on 3's, can anybody drop the download on the current best comps and how the map works in general? I'd like to try it with some friends



You can play with 1 top, 1 bot 1v2'ing and 1 jungler.

Good junglers:

Lee singa, trundle, shaco, udyr, nunu


Good 1v2'ers (from personal experience)

GP (max orange, farm all day)
Yorick, Trundle, Vlad, Nunu

Good top laners:

Every bruiser in the game


Ban-worthy champs:

Mundo, singed, darius, trynd, poppy (fuck poppy seriously), nunu


Thanks for the help :D
Veni, vidi, vici!
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 14 2012 16:47 GMT
#743
I'm doing tribunal cases and watching judge judy. GOT THIS SHIT ON LOCK DOWN
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 16:49:53
September 14 2012 16:49 GMT
#744

On September 14 2012 23:43 Dgiese wrote:
It's like an experience I had climbing Mt. Washington. After a long day's hike I was the first in my family to reach the top by a substantial margin. Despite being weary from the climb, it felt great to achieve something. Then my reverie was interrupted by an overweight man in a Hawaiian shirt, Bermuda shorts, and flip flops because he wanted to take a picture of his high heel-sporting, mini skirt-wearing wife next to the sign.


I live around that area and hike it a few times every year and god do it hate those people. its a great hike but sucks that you get to the top and there are like 200 people up there only like 60 of who hiked it.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 14 2012 16:55 GMT
#745
On September 15 2012 01:39 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 01:34 clickrush wrote:
On September 15 2012 01:07 Requizen wrote:
On September 15 2012 00:56 clickrush wrote:
On September 15 2012 00:24 Hakanfrog wrote:
I wan´t to get the Janna skin and I think I may be able to reach 1500 legitimatly with a little bit of luck, but it´s not like I´d say no if someone was willing to boost me. If I´m not good enough for that rating I´ll drop down anyways.

I don´t see any reason to boost up to plat or dia, that´s more of a personal accomplishment as there is no real reward of any value. Don´t see the reason to be mad about it either tbh.


the problem is elo = credibility. the skins/rewards are ment to be sth to show that off. being mad at it is an overreaction but cheating waters the rewards down quite a bit.

in the end there is no fair system. neither in leagues nor in tournaments. Personally I have the most fun when I'am playing with equally skilled people, can make some good plays and improve my game. That is what the game and the system does well though, so the skins/rewards really do not mean much in the end. Current, consistent elo on a solid number of games is where it's at.

I'd agree with this if people (especially on here) didn't discredit the opinions and what not of high ELO and even professional players all the time. ELO matches you up against people of your approximate skill level, sure, but that never necessarily means that you know shit about the game.


well not every player has the same skillset. higher elo just means you played better up to this point. what makes your play better is another question. some are more aware, some are more precise and some have better strategies etc. But I'd say it is extremely uncommon for a player to be weaker in any area than a player with significantly (let us say 300 points) lower elo. Just from the fact that playing with better players improves all your weak areas as well. It common that tryhard players overestimate themselves so they believe they are better at 'knowing shit' and similar vague stuff.

That's fair, and I would never say that I personally know more/can play better than anyone here, even if they're at the same ELO as I am. However, when it comes to discussions like we have, I find it's better to actually weigh what's being said and look at math/analytic examples rather than just blindly accept what someone says as true because they're Gold/Plat/Diamond/insert ELO number here. It's likely that I'll listen as much to an unranked individual as a 2k player if he brings up compelling arguments and acceptable theorycrafting. (And that's actual compelling arguments, not "I won 10 games with TF/PD/PD Hec lol")


funny what you say because my younger brother who plays less and around 150 points below me quite often comes up with stuff like 'hey this champ on that lane is really strong imo'. Most of the time I would not really dig into it but then some weeks later we have the new fotm and he was right. This happened with nunu support for example. really the arguments behind something have to be looked at. In the other hand there are alot of discussions where experience matters. High elo players are not magicians, they just do less mistakes, hit stuff a bit better and predict outcomes more precicely. In the other hand it is very uncommon that something new happens at that bracket. innovations have a hard time to bubble up there because people just do not trust it in the sense of 'don't touch a running system', while the lower the bracket the more random things are. Innovations are really important though. A player who does the new good stuff first is likely to be extremely successfull with it.

I guess what I'am trying to say is that I agree with you that high elo is not an excuse for bad arguments or advice. But one should allways be aware of how much different games are every 300ish points.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 16:58:58
September 14 2012 16:56 GMT
#746
Dno why you guys harpin' on gatorserious, he has has to manage SG, his team Severity Gaming, and all their team practice, weekend go4LoL's, and scrims on top of staying up to the date on the current jungle meta
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 14 2012 16:59 GMT
#747
Everyone so mad.

Conclusion: Everyone also bad.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 14 2012 17:00 GMT
#748
On September 15 2012 01:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
Dno why you guys harpin' on gatorsaurus, he has has to manage SG, his team Severity Gaming, and all their team practice, weekend go4LoL's, and scrims on top of staying up to the date on the current jungle meta

I wasn't talking about gtr in particular, just about the idea that "high elo = good", and that someone getting boosted somehow "cheapens it". I'd know who the good posters were on this board even if they all decided to tank to 1k elo on purpose. It's just a number, yo.
It's your boy Guzma!
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 17:07:31
September 14 2012 17:07 GMT
#749
Friday!

At least we're all used to the rage.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 14 2012 17:09 GMT
#750
On September 15 2012 02:00 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 01:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
Dno why you guys harpin' on gatorsaurus, he has has to manage SG, his team Severity Gaming, and all their team practice, weekend go4LoL's, and scrims on top of staying up to the date on the current jungle meta

I wasn't talking about gtr in particular, just about the idea that "high elo = good", and that someone getting boosted somehow "cheapens it". I'd know who the good posters were on this board even if they all decided to tank to 1k elo on purpose. It's just a number, yo.


I think he was referring more to the post which basically said gator sucked and stuff. Not your post.

That said, I'm obviously of the opinion that the ability of players to game the system diminishes the accomplishment of players who legitimately earn their rankings, or else I wouldn't have written a half-dozen paragraphs on the subject and rambled about Mt. Washington.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 14 2012 17:18 GMT
#751
On September 15 2012 02:09 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 02:00 Requizen wrote:
On September 15 2012 01:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
Dno why you guys harpin' on gatorsaurus, he has has to manage SG, his team Severity Gaming, and all their team practice, weekend go4LoL's, and scrims on top of staying up to the date on the current jungle meta

I wasn't talking about gtr in particular, just about the idea that "high elo = good", and that someone getting boosted somehow "cheapens it". I'd know who the good posters were on this board even if they all decided to tank to 1k elo on purpose. It's just a number, yo.


I think he was referring more to the post which basically said gator sucked and stuff. Not your post.

That said, I'm obviously of the opinion that the ability of players to game the system diminishes the accomplishment of players who legitimately earn their rankings, or else I wouldn't have written a half-dozen paragraphs on the subject and rambled about Mt. Washington.

I can understand that, I suppose. For me, it's just always been a personal thing. Like running, which I just started a few months ago. I can do a ~6 minute mile if I really bust my ass, but I'm completely dead afterwards. The fact that other people can do with less training just because of genes or whatever doesn't bother me, the fact that I myself can do it is reward enough.

So when I finally got back to Bronze before the reset and then lost to a 1400 player who did AP Yi and acted like a moron the whole game, I wasn't really offended that his ELO was higher and he was carried by his team, I was just pissed at myself that I lost a game.

Different viewpoints, I guess.
It's your boy Guzma!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 14 2012 17:26 GMT
#752
Is Roffles like ban immune lolz? And guitar is fine. Not the best mechanics but a smart player fo'sho.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
September 14 2012 17:43 GMT
#753
On September 15 2012 02:26 HazMat wrote:
Is Roffles like ban immune lolz? And guitar is fine. Not the best mechanics but a smart player fo'sho.

He is a terror here on the internet.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 14 2012 17:48 GMT
#754
On September 15 2012 02:18 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 02:09 Seuss wrote:
On September 15 2012 02:00 Requizen wrote:
On September 15 2012 01:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
Dno why you guys harpin' on gatorsaurus, he has has to manage SG, his team Severity Gaming, and all their team practice, weekend go4LoL's, and scrims on top of staying up to the date on the current jungle meta

I wasn't talking about gtr in particular, just about the idea that "high elo = good", and that someone getting boosted somehow "cheapens it". I'd know who the good posters were on this board even if they all decided to tank to 1k elo on purpose. It's just a number, yo.


I think he was referring more to the post which basically said gator sucked and stuff. Not your post.

That said, I'm obviously of the opinion that the ability of players to game the system diminishes the accomplishment of players who legitimately earn their rankings, or else I wouldn't have written a half-dozen paragraphs on the subject and rambled about Mt. Washington.

I can understand that, I suppose. For me, it's just always been a personal thing. Like running, which I just started a few months ago. I can do a ~6 minute mile if I really bust my ass, but I'm completely dead afterwards. The fact that other people can do with less training just because of genes or whatever doesn't bother me, the fact that I myself can do it is reward enough.

So when I finally got back to Bronze before the reset and then lost to a 1400 player who did AP Yi and acted like a moron the whole game, I wasn't really offended that his ELO was higher and he was carried by his team, I was just pissed at myself that I lost a game.

Different viewpoints, I guess.


Perhaps, but in some ways we're standing at the same vista but I'm looking east while you're looking west. Both your anecdotes feature people who, while being naturally advantaged or stupid jerks, still reached those places on their own merits. The problem I'm pointing out is akin people who start marathons, take a taxi to the end, and pretend they actually ran 26 miles in under four hours.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 14 2012 17:49 GMT
#755
WTB: ways to land Syndra's stun.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
September 14 2012 17:52 GMT
#756
On September 15 2012 02:49 Sufficiency wrote:
WTB: ways to land Syndra's stun.

From what I have seen. It looks like pool
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 14 2012 18:08 GMT
#757
On September 15 2012 01:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Everyone so mad.

Conclusion: Everyone also bad.

^ Also, makes me sad.

More seriously what's more annoying about people gaming the system is if I have to deal with 1500+ people doing Elo jobs. Obviously, it's an opportunity for me to learn, but still, if I want to hit 1500 by myself it's a bit like climbing that Mt. Washington with hikers higher up throwing pebbles at you, if I may.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
September 14 2012 18:10 GMT
#758
It's a personal achievement why do you care if some faggot gets boosted it's more like you get beaten to the top by guys in helicopters like who gives a fuck.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 14 2012 18:11 GMT
#759
Quick question. When people talk about Malz not being viable they also bring up QSS. With Skarner being so popular, why aren't people building QSS to counter him, and why doesn't this gimp Skarner as much as Malz?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 14 2012 18:12 GMT
#760
On September 15 2012 03:11 onlywonderboy wrote:
Quick question. When people talk about Malz not being viable they also bring up QSS. With Skarner being so popular, why aren't people building QSS to counter him, and why doesn't this gimp Skarner as much as Malz?


You do build QSS to counter Skarnar. In mid I usually get a negatron early and eventually build it into QSS if I am against a Skarnar.

Although sometimes I get it too early and my teammates blame me for having no AP
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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