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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 14 2012 18:15 GMT
#761
On September 15 2012 03:11 onlywonderboy wrote:
Quick question. When people talk about Malz not being viable they also bring up QSS. With Skarner being so popular, why aren't people building QSS to counter him, and why doesn't this gimp Skarner as much as Malz?

Skarner still is tanky, has good damage, and has a permaslow, all great things to have on a jungler. The ult is more or less just frosting on an already delicious cake. Malz's kit is strong, sure, but it's pretty hard to get a full combo off without using ult, especially if you ever want people to stand in your pool/get hit by your wall.

Plus, Skarner's ult is more useful. Even if you can't use it to nab a carry, you can always use it to peel for or straight up save a teammate. Unless the entire enemy team has Cleanse/QSS, you're going to be able to move someone out of position and chunk their health, which is more useful than just making them stand still and doing damage, imo.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 14 2012 18:17 GMT
#762
On September 15 2012 03:15 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 03:11 onlywonderboy wrote:
Quick question. When people talk about Malz not being viable they also bring up QSS. With Skarner being so popular, why aren't people building QSS to counter him, and why doesn't this gimp Skarner as much as Malz?

Skarner still is tanky, has good damage, and has a permaslow, all great things to have on a jungler. The ult is more or less just frosting on an already delicious cake. Malz's kit is strong, sure, but it's pretty hard to get a full combo off without using ult, especially if you ever want people to stand in your pool/get hit by your wall.

Plus, Skarner's ult is more useful. Even if you can't use it to nab a carry, you can always use it to peel for or straight up save a teammate. Unless the entire enemy team has Cleanse/QSS, you're going to be able to move someone out of position and chunk their health, which is more useful than just making them stand still and doing damage, imo.

You're also forgetting the biggest thing about it, is you can attack while ulting, so with skarner its' essentially a 5v4 during the duration of skarner's ulti. While Malz just turns it to a 4v4 during the duration of his ulti.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 14 2012 18:18 GMT
#763
On September 15 2012 03:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 03:15 Requizen wrote:
On September 15 2012 03:11 onlywonderboy wrote:
Quick question. When people talk about Malz not being viable they also bring up QSS. With Skarner being so popular, why aren't people building QSS to counter him, and why doesn't this gimp Skarner as much as Malz?

Skarner still is tanky, has good damage, and has a permaslow, all great things to have on a jungler. The ult is more or less just frosting on an already delicious cake. Malz's kit is strong, sure, but it's pretty hard to get a full combo off without using ult, especially if you ever want people to stand in your pool/get hit by your wall.

Plus, Skarner's ult is more useful. Even if you can't use it to nab a carry, you can always use it to peel for or straight up save a teammate. Unless the entire enemy team has Cleanse/QSS, you're going to be able to move someone out of position and chunk their health, which is more useful than just making them stand still and doing damage, imo.

You're also forgetting the biggest thing about it, is you can attack while ulting, so with skarner its' essentially a 5v4 during the duration of skarner's ulti. While Malz just turns it to a 4v4 during the duration of his ulti.

Can't attack, only use abilities.

/nitpick
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 14 2012 18:19 GMT
#764
On September 15 2012 03:10 Slayer91 wrote:
It's a personal achievement why do you care if some faggot gets boosted it's more like you get beaten to the top by guys in helicopters like who gives a fuck.

Because then I don't get to play against dudes of my level, but others way higher that are power-leveling, and the curbstomp isn't always pleasant.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:20:10
September 14 2012 18:19 GMT
#765
Skarner doesn't suppress himself during ult, while malzahar can be stunned/silenced out of it and can easily accidently cancel his own ult.

Edit: too slow :D
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:20:36
September 14 2012 18:20 GMT
#766
Probably a dumb question but when is it best to run APen runes over flat AD runes? You only get those on top bruisers/Urgot right?

edit: oh sweet 2 for 1 rune pages.
Forever Young
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 14 2012 18:20 GMT
#767
On September 15 2012 03:15 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 03:11 onlywonderboy wrote:
Quick question. When people talk about Malz not being viable they also bring up QSS. With Skarner being so popular, why aren't people building QSS to counter him, and why doesn't this gimp Skarner as much as Malz?

Skarner still is tanky, has good damage, and has a permaslow, all great things to have on a jungler. The ult is more or less just frosting on an already delicious cake. Malz's kit is strong, sure, but it's pretty hard to get a full combo off without using ult, especially if you ever want people to stand in your pool/get hit by your wall.

Plus, Skarner's ult is more useful. Even if you can't use it to nab a carry, you can always use it to peel for or straight up save a teammate. Unless the entire enemy team has Cleanse/QSS, you're going to be able to move someone out of position and chunk their health, which is more useful than just making them stand still and doing damage, imo.

That makes perfect sense, his other benefits outweigh the possibility of people QSSing out of the ult.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 14 2012 18:22 GMT
#768
Isn't malz supposed to use his shit on the initiating tank anyways. %damage w, 3 second silence, and you just murder 70% of the tanks hp.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:25:11
September 14 2012 18:24 GMT
#769
On September 15 2012 03:22 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Isn't malz supposed to use his shit on the initiating tank anyways. %damage w, 3 second silence, and you just murder 70% of the tanks hp.

I've always advocated that it should be used more as a clean up tool, as you're less likely to get killed/interrupted while ulting if the fight is already over. It's pretty good at grabbing/killing fleeing enemies, using it in the middle of a fight is a big "look at me!" indicator.

Edit:

Oh, realized you were talking about the rest of his kit rather than his ult. Yeah, it's really nice for decent counter-initiation (pool is great zoning, wall is great on clumps), but there are others who do it much much better imo.
It's your boy Guzma!
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 14 2012 18:35 GMT
#770
brb getting boosted to diamond
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 14 2012 18:41 GMT
#771
Fucking bly; everyone finished hatin', so he starts up again.

Also I think Monte is jus mad cuz he's not good enough to give me an Ejob
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 14 2012 18:43 GMT
#772
lots of hate in this thread today!
also whoever told me to update my sig you're right, now that i'm 1 game away from diamond i should probably update it again!
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:51:44
September 14 2012 18:48 GMT
#773
Damn people can say that elo is overrated and Flord is not that good of a player, but fact is this dude s a farming MACHINE, 250 cs @ 22minutes in IPL5 qualifier vs Fnatic right now

e: 300cs 26minutes :D
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:56:07
September 14 2012 18:55 GMT
#774
On September 15 2012 03:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Fucking bly; everyone finished hatin', so he starts up again.

Also I think Monte is jus mad cuz he's not good enough to give me an Ejob


You're just mad I stopped after carrying you for three games. :3
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 14 2012 18:56 GMT
#775
Giving an Elo job sounds like a sexual act.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
September 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#776
On September 15 2012 03:56 HazMat wrote:
Giving an Elo job sounds like a sexual act.


Well you're making something grow.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 19:05:18
September 14 2012 19:00 GMT
#777
Game "times out" in the middle of pick/bans 1 hour login queue on EU west.

Went down to 15 now up 45 down to 26 now.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 14 2012 19:04 GMT
#778
Same here, I saw several dc while spectating and I crashed right at the same time (despite the delay, I shoulda crash 3 minutes prior if it was the server and not that game itself). Queue just went from "more than 20k, 9 minutes" to "first, 40 minutes". Windows minutes yo.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 14 2012 19:05 GMT
#779
EUW crashes just when I wanna switch to my EUW account
TL crashed (for a second)

I was afraid to check the GW2 servers. So afraid.


In other news, I tanked my elo pretty fucking hard today, I guess now that season 3 rewards are known, more idiots feel like they need to play.
I guess it's a good thing the game will reward top elo, lol.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Glaceau
Profile Joined February 2012
Wales333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 19:10:38
September 14 2012 19:07 GMT
#780
what we learned from all of this is that guitar is still banging his sister

btw

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=29253406#29253406

hope you like banned accounts, do this and you'll be like me
Cmon, swing it
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