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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 05 2012 16:29 GMT
#1261
On September 06 2012 01:14 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 01:11 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 06 2012 01:00 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 00:49 Mogwai wrote:
On September 06 2012 00:41 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 00:39 Mogwai wrote:
I can't speak for Jayce as a primary ranged carry, but he's considerably better than the old school conventional 2nd ranged carries top like Teemo and Kayle. His ranged W is just soooooooo absurd and he gives you a free 10 second CD reverie.


You mean E I assume.

But the speed decays over time and you actually have to touch it, so it's not that broken.

No, I mean his ranged W is absurd and also his ranged E is very fucking useful to have. Being able to more or less completely ignore attack speed and still dish out insane deeps is crazy strong.


His steroid is only strong if you invest no AS. Otherwise it is antagonistic to other AS bonuses.

Also it is still affected by attack speed slows.

Jayce doesn't build asp outside of triforce and maybe wits anyways


Good luck doing that as ADC.

Corki and Ezreal say hi with IE/BT + Triforce.

Jayce builds should just be dblades -> phage -> BT -> TF -> GA -> IE/LW and he trucks people just like a standard ranged AD.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 05 2012 16:38 GMT
#1262
On September 06 2012 01:14 Koenig99 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


Syndra's dance is SNSD's Hoot dance...

And that can only be a good thing.


Jayce as AD is actually pretty scary. Skirt edge of fight, shoot and spam W, as soon as anything looks at you become a bruiser with free resists and burst damage. If Nunu top wasn't literally free wins for me (for no apparent reason), I'd probably spam him every game.
It's your boy Guzma!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 05 2012 17:00 GMT
#1263
Yay syndra may take my spot as favourite champion after Ahri because of this haha
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 05 2012 17:07 GMT
#1264
I've played leona jayce bot it's pretty dumb @3, Don't own jayce so bear with the explanation but basically you hit the attack speed thing then switch stance as leona goes for zenith, then if it hits you jump on them, get your 3 boosted attacks in hammer form, then knock them backwards after the stun if they aren't dead, which is basically never.
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 05 2012 17:15 GMT
#1265
And during all this, she's been nerfed again... sphere duration 8s -> 6s, Q cooldown 3.5s -> 4s.
With the damage nerfs on Q her passive effect seems pretty underwhelming, and W got gutted when it went from "additionally knocks up" (arguably overpowered) to "slows for 2s instead of 1.5s". Her passive's effect on E wasn't that interesting to begin with.

So she lost half of her hard cc, her ult went from 9+6 spheres max to 9+4 spheres max (with max cdr and a sphere grabbed with W). Her passive is now boring and doesn't give any feeling of "new power" compared to the normal version of her spells, and she lost spammability (/zone control too), huge single target nuke, and cc. I am hugely disappointed and quite concerned about the feeling she's going to give, since they took a bit of everything rather than specialize her.
She's still "spamming" of course, since Q's cd is short, but the combo "longer cd + shorter duration" dented it, and it'll be easier and less rewarding to reach the maximum damage threshold for her ult. Also she wants to trap people, but her only hard cc now pushes people away from her zone, so you would only use E as a disengage or finisher I guess, unless you can send them into a wall to combo with your ult.

Now I'm a sad panda. Got my hopes high again.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
September 05 2012 17:28 GMT
#1266
On September 06 2012 02:15 Alaric wrote:
And during all this, she's been nerfed again... sphere duration 8s -> 6s, Q cooldown 3.5s -> 4s.
With the damage nerfs on Q her passive effect seems pretty underwhelming, and W got gutted when it went from "additionally knocks up" (arguably overpowered) to "slows for 2s instead of 1.5s". Her passive's effect on E wasn't that interesting to begin with.

So she lost half of her hard cc, her ult went from 9+6 spheres max to 9+4 spheres max (with max cdr and a sphere grabbed with W). Her passive is now boring and doesn't give any feeling of "new power" compared to the normal version of her spells, and she lost spammability (/zone control too), huge single target nuke, and cc. I am hugely disappointed and quite concerned about the feeling she's going to give, since they took a bit of everything rather than specialize her.
She's still "spamming" of course, since Q's cd is short, but the combo "longer cd + shorter duration" dented it, and it'll be easier and less rewarding to reach the maximum damage threshold for her ult. Also she wants to trap people, but her only hard cc now pushes people away from her zone, so you would only use E as a disengage or finisher I guess, unless you can send them into a wall to combo with your ult.

Now I'm a sad panda. Got my hopes high again.

OTOH we didn't need another zyra-level champion running around again.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 05 2012 17:31 GMT
#1267
Well seeing as she can just juggle a buff I'm not looking forward to her at all.
People that just want to troll you are going to go blitz/syndra,pull your buff over the wall and carry it off into mid lane.It's like,really?They need to add a duration on how long she can hold something in the air unless I'm overlooking something on how she works.
Cackle™
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 05 2012 17:31 GMT
#1268
To be fair, no other champion can do this:

[image loading]
It's your boy Guzma!
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
September 05 2012 17:33 GMT
#1269
On September 06 2012 00:38 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 00:37 Flakes wrote:
Jayce can bully pretty hard, when paired with a hard CC it basically becomes a kill lane that can switch to "farm mode" to play safe (i.e. when the opposing jungler is nearby). His hybrid damage and gear scaling allow him to hammer the crap out of any carry that has to farm in range of To the Skies (600).

and if you absolutely need X amount of ranged AD dps on a team you can always accompany botlane Jayce with Kayle top (same goes for botlane Urgot).

Kayle's range is also really short though.


So? Urgot bot as bruiser with another bruiser top is viable.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 05 2012 17:35 GMT
#1270
On September 06 2012 01:26 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 01:15 Sufficiency wrote:
Can anyone with experience with PBE tell me how to get RP on it? Do I just need to play games?


You'll get RP and IP for your first game (if it's delayed just log in and out). After that if you play at least one game a week you'll get RP/IP every sunday.

I'm a terrible PBE tester, I pretty much use it exclusively to try champs I don't own and buy skins/runes for my own enjoyment.


Still didn't get RP yet (two games already... do vs bots games not count?). *cry*

At least I got to lvl 30 in one game.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 05 2012 17:37 GMT
#1271
On September 06 2012 02:31 Requizen wrote:
To be fair, no other champion can do this:

[image loading]


Welp, best champ.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 05 2012 17:48 GMT
#1272
On September 06 2012 02:37 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 02:31 Requizen wrote:
To be fair, no other champion can do this:

[image loading]


Welp, best troll champ.

Fixed
Cackle™
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 05 2012 17:49 GMT
#1273
Oh and this

It's your boy Guzma!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 05 2012 17:52 GMT
#1274
O there is a duration on that grab,I couldn't find it so I thought you could just infinitely hold something lol.
Cackle™
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 05 2012 17:55 GMT
#1275
On September 06 2012 01:38 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 01:14 Koenig99 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37B3mSBfAw&feature=youtu.be


Syndra's dance is SNSD's Hoot dance...

And that can only be a good thing.


Jayce as AD is actually pretty scary. Skirt edge of fight, shoot and spam W, as soon as anything looks at you become a bruiser with free resists and burst damage. If Nunu top wasn't literally free wins for me (for no apparent reason), I'd probably spam him every game.

I'm currently just spamming Jayce, he's so obscenely good, it's not even fair. Only matchup that's made me sad is yorick really.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 05 2012 17:58 GMT
#1276
The real question is, will it follow you if you teleport?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 05 2012 18:01 GMT
#1277
On September 05 2012 23:19 HazMat wrote:
Those who are thinking about buying Gunnars you should try F.lux. I don't own Gunnars so I can't compare the two but it's free and just an application that tints your monitor at night. I don't know how it helps with headaches but the it definitely makes it eaiser to play and read at night.

Btw thanks for this recommendation,using it right now and it's really good.
Cackle™
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 05 2012 18:01 GMT
#1278
On September 06 2012 02:48 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 02:37 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On September 06 2012 02:31 Requizen wrote:
To be fair, no other champion can do this:

[image loading]


Welp, best troll champ.

Fixed


Is that not what I said?
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 05 2012 18:02 GMT
#1279
On September 06 2012 02:00 AsnSensation wrote:
Yay syndra may take my spot as favourite champion after Ahri because of this haha


Run Devil Run's better .
derp
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 05 2012 18:03 GMT
#1280
On September 06 2012 02:55 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 01:38 Requizen wrote:
On September 06 2012 01:14 Koenig99 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37B3mSBfAw&feature=youtu.be


Syndra's dance is SNSD's Hoot dance...

And that can only be a good thing.


Jayce as AD is actually pretty scary. Skirt edge of fight, shoot and spam W, as soon as anything looks at you become a bruiser with free resists and burst damage. If Nunu top wasn't literally free wins for me (for no apparent reason), I'd probably spam him every game.

I'm currently just spamming Jayce, he's so obscenely good, it's not even fair. Only matchup that's made me sad is yorick really.

i've even found yorick manageable with a jungle gank or two, also running 21 defense.

also, frozen heart is just about my favorite item on jayce atm.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
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