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Noobville17921 Posts
On September 05 2012 12:15 HazMat wrote: Turn on Dan's stream... He's talking with ScY about creating a team LOL. I can't stop laughing at the idea of Dan and ScY on a team. good guy dan dinh | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:49 BlackPaladin wrote: Or just open chalice + boots with such champs and never even need to worry about mana while still being able to kite, reposition, and dodge skill shots easily. I've finished a lot of aram with still those 2 starting items... >_> Play Mundo - start with 3 hp5 amulett - run around like just dont care in the beginning of the game regen items are the best. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 05 2012 09:06 obesechicken13 wrote: Crit is really important. A crit chance of 8% once you get IE is a 12% increase in dps assuming no crit damage runes. On the opposite spectrum an ashe at level 18 with IE has 178 damage. Probably more since everyone's infatuated with damage runes and masteries. At 185 AD, ashe needs 22 damage to get a 12% increase in dps. With just serkers greaves and levels an ashe needs 22% attack speed to get that 12% increase in dps. You'll notice that both sources are more expensive than crit. Aspd is a horrible stat to stack. Not only does it have diminishing gold returns if you stack one stat too much, but also it has an inherent diminishing return because of how it's always based off of base attack speed and you gain attack speed with levels. It's also why Riot put all the strong AD steroids into attack speed, so if you had a team with nunu and warwick, you wouldn't have a kogmaw wrecking face with an IE. So. Executioners calling + Triforce if Aspeed is so diminishing returns? | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
Dan Dinh was such a bro at Pax. Everyone else just signed it, and they were fine and all, but Dan actually started a conversation while he signed. Such a cool guy >.< | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
On September 05 2012 12:26 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Dan Dinh was such a bro at Pax. Everyone else just signed it, and they were fine and all, but Dan actually started a conversation while he signed. Such a cool guy >.< signed "it"? like signatures on stuffs and stuff? | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On September 05 2012 12:31 Requizen wrote: Is it just me, or do duo queues who go bot seem to always be really sub par? You'd think with communication it'd be better, but it never seems that way. Agree, either really underwhelming (90%) or pretty good (10%) | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On September 05 2012 12:31 Requizen wrote: Is it just me, or do duo queues who go bot seem to always be really sub par? You'd think with communication it'd be better, but it never seems that way. Well, a lot of times duo queues get their MMR boosted above one/both of the players' skill range -- presumably to compensate for the communication, but unfortunately mechanics are pretty important botlane. When I duo'd with my friend chipsahoy, we had a lot more success when he jungled and just ganked my lane. Alternately, duoing with a smurf is completely broken -- you just destroy people since the random factor of your teammates' skills is that much smaller, and their elo is still higher than you and your partner's because of the MMR boost. Meanwhile the other team will have lower rated players (somewhere in between the duo and the 3 pubs). | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On September 05 2012 12:44 Dgiese wrote: Agree, either really underwhelming (90%) or pretty good (10%) As a player who duos bot often, today I had my best and worst ranked games that I can remember. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Quality playstyles here people. They become so scared of the yeti that they focus me and allow MF to get a quadra and penta. I enjoy this game sometimes. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On September 05 2012 12:44 Flakes wrote: Well, a lot of times duo queues get their MMR boosted above one/both of the players' skill range -- presumably to compensate for the communication, but unfortunately mechanics are pretty important botlane. When I duo'd with my friend chipsahoy, we had a lot more success when he jungled and just ganked my lane. Alternately, duoing with a smurf is completely broken -- you just destroy people since the random factor of your teammates' skills is that much smaller, and their elo is still higher than you and your partner's because of the MMR boost. Meanwhile the other team will have lower rated players (somewhere in between the duo and the 3 pubs). I don't understand -- are you expecting people playing at an Elo below their true skill to be balanced? | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On September 05 2012 13:41 upperbound wrote: I don't understand -- are you expecting people playing at an Elo below their true skill to be balanced? Nah, just pointing out that a duo with a smurf breaks the entire 5v5, since each of the other three teammates will all have a higher average elo than their lane opponents, due to the MMR boost and 'team rating' mechanics. This is what causes the "90%/10%" Dgiese mentioned, since duo queues are usually lower rated than both their teammates and opponents, but occasionally much higher. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On September 05 2012 12:20 BlackPaladin wrote: lol.....my lord. Scy top Dan jungle Grackis mid TapiocaBall support Shikyo AD carry Best team. Now that is a team that should be sponsored by Elohell.net But seriously I'd watch that team play, just out of sick curiosity. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 05 2012 12:31 Requizen wrote: Is it just me, or do duo queues who go bot seem to always be really sub par? You'd think with communication it'd be better, but it never seems that way. If your team has a duo, the opposing team typically also has a duo. Guess where duos like to play.......? So yea, it's almost 50-50. | ||
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Celestial
United States652 Posts
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On September 05 2012 15:16 Celestial wrote: Whenever I duo I much rather prefer mid/top/jungler than double bot. I mean yeah sure the communication and coordination would be better bot, but I'd much rather play the champions in the other lanes. Then again ADC is a great role to carry in 'cause you're very relevant mid and late game, but I can't stand those long games for ranked. Too risky. No reason you can't snowball bot lane just as hard as any other lane. just take taric / leona / blitz + any ad except ashe or cait. Trist taric blue start? Take golems, all in when you hit 2 15 secs before them, laugh all the way to the bank. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On September 05 2012 12:44 Dgiese wrote: Agree, either really underwhelming (90%) or pretty good (10%) I am the 10%! 6-2 with my duo in ranked. Helps that he mains support, I guess. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6221 Posts
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
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Celestial
United States652 Posts
On September 05 2012 15:31 Dgiese wrote: No reason you can't snowball bot lane just as hard as any other lane. just take taric / leona / blitz + any ad except ashe or cait. Trist taric blue start? Take golems, all in when you hit 2 15 secs before them, laugh all the way to the bank. But the dynamics and overall playstyle in bot lane are different than top/mid. The overall champion pools are also different, I just don't like ADC or support. I'd much rather be brawling and disrupting instead of skirting the fight for that perfect positioning while maintaining highest dps/utility. It's just a preference thing, I hate having others initiate fights for the team, esspecially in ranked. | ||
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