EPT[Patch 1.0.0.145: Rengar] General Discussion - Page 88
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AsnSensation
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AUGcodon
Canada536 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 22 2012 06:23 AsnSensation wrote: whos this tobiwan guy and whys he shittalking the lol community in realtalk He's well known for being one of the best Dota2 caster, and to be fair, he's not really "shit talking", he's just giving his insight/opinion of the growth of LoL. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
as for riot, i always liked their stance towards their game. they seem so active in balancing it and maintaining it and giving it support throughout the game's lifetime. that's a rarity. most game companies just release the game and leave it up to the players to create and promote the competitive scene. and then some companies like to come in at the end and act like they started and founded the competitive scene. *cough* blizzard BW *cough* with all that said i find competitive LoL to be pretty boring. i like watching streams or even listening in on a player's stream during a tournament, but i don't like just straight up watching it as a spectator listening to it with commentary. i was also thinking about the differences between fighting games and LoL/SC, and i feel that when i attend fighting game tournaments it's not really cheering for "the pros" but people in your community. you want to see your friends in your community smash a famous player. then when that famous player is from west coast, you want to see him kill east coast. and then when he's from the US, you want to see him beat Japan. and i like that whole grassroots feel, that you actually cheer for your friends and their friends, etc. if small tournaments die it's no biggie, if i'm gonna watch 5 guys i don't really know, they might as well have big money on the line. | ||
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kongoline
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 22 2012 06:51 kongoline wrote: who is best between corki,ezreal or graves to carry myself out of elo hell? Whoever you're best with. For me, it's Ezreal, but all 3 are fine. | ||
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Sufficiency
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Slayer91
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 22 2012 06:59 Slayer91 wrote: You can carry yourself out of any elo with any role. All that matters is your skill level. That's obviously true, but playing an ADC makes you feel hopeless sometimes. Should you "be in Elo hell", where all of your other lanes are failing and only you are doing well, as ADC you can't actually carry that hard in mid game in order to have a chance in the later stages of the game. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On August 22 2012 06:58 Sufficiency wrote: Can you actually carry yourself out of Elo hell with ADC? I always thought mid laners and junglers are the easiest to carry with. No you can't, for Elo hell never ends. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 22 2012 06:58 Sufficiency wrote: Can you actually carry yourself out of Elo hell with ADC? I always thought mid laners and junglers are the easiest to carry with. Most of my wins lately have been with Ezreal or Skarner. Winning bot lane feels strong to me because, not only do you become a life raft for the rest of your team, you also can make sure their AD is worthless. Best advice for playing AD is this, and this will sound horrible: treat the rest of your team like they're expendable. Not the players, but their characters. If you're ever in a team fight and start to get focused, leave your team for dead and run. I find that staying and trying to save most randoms is a sure fire way to get yourself killed. If you're ahead as an AD, the rest of your team is there to be a meat shield while you do your thing, whether they like it or not. Like I said, that sounds harsh, and I know it. But honestly, I just stick with my team and make sure that I'm never the focus of enemy attacks (pretty easy with good positioning and a free blink on Ez), and then melt everything in sight. It's worked out pretty well. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Leonite7
Ireland921 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: ADC is potentially the best role for solo queue, you have a relatively safe lane phase, you can zone and kill very easily when ahead, you have the most damage mid to late game. Almost every player who's been rank 1 this season has gotten there by playing ADC. At high Elo perhaps. The bottom lane is not very suspectable to counterpicking, so even if you are always FP you won't put yourself at a disadvantage. I feel that at low Elo people throw way too hard. Got 0-4 in early game? GG AFK. As ADC it's sometimes hard to even reach the stage in game that you can actually carry. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:10 Sufficiency wrote: At high Elo perhaps. The bottom lane is not very suspectable to counterpicking, so even if you are always FP you won't put yourself at a disadvantage. I feel that at low Elo people throw way too hard. Got 0-4 in early game? GG AFK. As ADC it's sometimes hard to even reach the stage in game that you can actually carry. This. It doesn't matter how well you're farming in lane when a 7/0 LeBlanc/Morde/Fizz/EveryotherAPever walks up and kills you instantly in one burst because the rest of your team is incompetent. | ||
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Celestial
United States652 Posts
The game for the most part comes down to who screws up the least, which everyone loves the blame game. Never an issue of being outplayed to some. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:02 Sufficiency wrote: That's obviously true, but playing an ADC makes you feel hopeless sometimes. Should you "be in Elo hell", where all of your other lanes are failing and only you are doing well, as ADC you can't actually carry that hard in mid game in order to have a chance in the later stages of the game. You can't? That's too bad for you. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
It's stupid no matter how intelligent you think your argument sounds. Tobi is an idiot; just like 2GD; just like SC2 vs BW people; just like those that insult Halo from the Quake community. They all sound like idiots. On the idea of small tournaments succeeding... The small tournaments still have to offer up something worth watching. Some of the Weekly LoL stuff pulls in great viewer #'s. Similarly, in the FGC some of their weekly tournaments draw in a solid number of viewers even though nothing substantial is on the line. People have lots of things to watch online, and simply being the game you enjoy isn't enough. The production, commentators, storyline, etc all still have to be there and I wouldn't want people to watch a shitty show just because it's about LoL (or Dota2, SC2, whatever). Quality matters. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:10 Sufficiency wrote: At high Elo perhaps. The bottom lane is not very suspectable to counterpicking, so even if you are always FP you won't put yourself at a disadvantage. I feel that at low Elo people throw way too hard. Got 0-4 in early game? GG AFK. As ADC it's sometimes hard to even reach the stage in game that you can actually carry. AD carries can carry the mid-game, they just have to build differently to do it (unless they're really, really fed). Crush your lane opponent, build BT/BC, push down their tower, then roam and take objectives/other towers. Grab a Negatron if the enemy has a fed AP, or a chain vest if they have a fed bruiser. Proceed to destroy everything and listen to the enemy team crying about how bottom lane fed and nobody bought wards to stop your roaming etc. This is pretty much true for any lane. As fun as it is to repeatedly beat the snot out of one opponent/lane, staying in a lane you've clearly won is almost always a waste of time. It's much better to push the tower to get your whole team an advantage and then roam whenever the lane is pushed out. | ||
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