• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:00
CET 13:00
KST 21:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)38
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career BW General Discussion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
BIG STICK PENIS ENLARGEMENT CREAM+27 74 676 7021
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1411 users

[Patch 1.0.0.145: Rengar] General Discussion - Page 83

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 81 82 83 84 85 189 Next
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
August 21 2012 18:35 GMT
#1641
On August 22 2012 03:32 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:24 Requizen wrote:
Stop using core classes old man, learn to use new books. Book of Nine Swords and Psionics are some of the most fun I've had in DnD.

Look, back when I played, it was just classes. Core classes wasn't a thing. You were a Fighter, a Ranger, a Paladin, a Cleric, a Druid, a Thief, a Bard, a Wizard, or an Illusionist. Period. We also had to walk uphill both ways to and from the dungeon. In the snow. And we didn't complain.


Without footgear too.
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 21 2012 18:38 GMT
#1642
I say no to pokemon, so you guys move on to D&D.

Real.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 18:41:04
August 21 2012 18:40 GMT
#1643
On August 22 2012 03:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
I say no to pokemon, so you guys move on to D&D.

Real.


YOUR SHACKLES HOLD NO POWER OVER US

<3
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 21 2012 18:42 GMT
#1644
On August 22 2012 03:32 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:24 Requizen wrote:
Stop using core classes old man, learn to use new books. Book of Nine Swords and Psionics are some of the most fun I've had in DnD.

Look, back when I played, it was just classes. Core classes wasn't a thing. You were a Fighter, a Ranger, a Paladin, a Cleric, a Druid, a Thief, a Bard, a Wizard, or an Illusionist. Period. We also had to walk uphill both ways to and from the dungeon. In the snow. And we didn't complain.

And had to walk up the hill both ways!

I remember my first creating my first character sheet, it was a cleric, dat shit was awesome, despite the fact that all i did was make holy water for the first few dungeons, lol.

oh man, the good ol' days.

It's all about ranger into duelist.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 18:46:57
August 21 2012 18:43 GMT
#1645
On August 22 2012 03:24 Requizen wrote:
Stop using core classes old man, learn to use new books. Book of Nine Swords and Psionics are some of the most fun I've had in DnD.

Bo9S and Psionics are essentially band-aid fixes to the fact that Vancian casting is powergame-y as hell in D&D 3.5.

In any sort of remotely combat-relevant campaign, I'd ban the Vancian casting classes, and use Bo9S/Psionics instead. It just makes life easier in the long run, because given how abusive Vancian casting becomes, it's going to be unfun for someone if the campaign goes on long enough.

It also is a pain to design encounters for a level 7+ party that has traditional casters, because at that point spells get strong enough that there's ALWAYS some stupid cheesy loophole you have to worry about in your encounter design.
Moderator
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 21 2012 18:43 GMT
#1646
On August 22 2012 03:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
I say no to pokemon, so you guys move on to D&D.

Real.

I'm going to try and make it on topic.

Would anyone be interested in a LoL-related one-shot session? I have some ideas knocking around for a couple stories, but I really only have 1 or 2 RL friends who play both LoL and tabletop games.
It's your boy Guzma!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11734 Posts
August 21 2012 18:43 GMT
#1647
On August 22 2012 03:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:01 Seuss wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:43 Morfildur wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:09 0123456789 wrote:
Wow, I'm so young, I don't know what roleplay is. I mean why would you imagine stuff and try to act it out in real life when computer is way more cool and vivid than imagination.


Because if you are doing it right nothing will ever match your imagination.

/endSpongeBob


At least for the first 20 years until suddenly life kicks you straight in the imagination every single day until there is none left :p


Your imagination fu is weak.

On August 22 2012 02:49 Slusher wrote:
man Phantomlord's assessment of Cho really annoys me, going glass cannon cho in 1400s and declaring it op -.- I'm also pretty sure he has no idea what his passive does because he keep aoe clearing waves and talking about how op revolver is.

I had friends that played a marvel themed D&D for a couple months, it was super fun, but the GM just didn't have time and I don't blame him, lot of work.


It's pretty surprising how many otherwise good players lack simple knowledge of champion mechanics *coughGandhicough*.


"yoyoyo soniv, wtf does lulu do" (3 months after lulu's release)

And I realize there are probably online communities that I could get into, but I would like to, at some point, experience table top with a group of friends IRL


Well, either force your friends to do a game (I'd recommend Savage Worlds for a first system, it is not too complicated and a lot of fun). Or search for guys that already play, and become friends with them. As i said, there is a pretty high probability that just by googling, you will find some PnP groups around where you live that are open to playing with new people. I am not really into that only PnP stuff myself, i think it is much more fun to sit around a table playing. Rather than saying that youd like to do it, just do it.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 21 2012 18:45 GMT
#1648
On August 22 2012 03:35 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 23:42 nosliw wrote:
going back to poppy. how are you supposed to lane vs olaf? His lvl 1 true dmg > your Q

You start regrowth pendant and just keep taking lasthits while you take E harrass, you also should harrass back with Q. After he uses E once you should snatch every lasthit possible then go back to biding your time for the while, and then practically repeat.. You never want to let him E you for free. You will likely need to farm at the tower so get used to it. You'll more than likely lose in lasthits but shouldn't die if you are careful and your lategame's much more powerful.

If Olaf wants to out-sustain you properly he's going to be the one pushing and if your team knows what's going on(That poppy vs olaf is a tough matchup but poppy is stronger late), it'd be very helpful if either the mid or the jungler ganked the Olaf a few times because he's a rather easy gank.

Difficult to explain, that's been my experience with the matchup... It's not as hard as people make it seem but it's still a very unfavorable one

opening regrowth seems... Not so good
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 21 2012 18:46 GMT
#1649
On a different topic, support Fiddle is amazing.

I tried it last night with my brother, who played Twitch. We went up against an Ezreal/Leona lane and completely crushed them. The Fear -> Silence combo is ridiculously strong, especially if you get lucky bounces. Leona basically couldn't initiate on us because of the CC and damage. Once I hit level 6 the lane was basically over.

I imagine certain duos would present a much greater threat, but it seems really strong.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 21 2012 18:46 GMT
#1650
On August 22 2012 03:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
I say no to pokemon, so you guys move on to D&D.

Real.

You know that deep down you love each and every one of us the same as your very own children.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 18:48:25
August 21 2012 18:48 GMT
#1651
On August 22 2012 03:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
I say no to pokemon, so you guys move on to D&D.

Real.

I just want to throw one last thing in before someone gets banned.
HOW cool,would be to have Gilgamesh(the character from final fantasy,not the king irl) as a Champion in LoL?
I would pay in solid gold.
Cackle™
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 21 2012 18:49 GMT
#1652
On August 22 2012 03:48 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
I say no to pokemon, so you guys move on to D&D.

Real.

I just want to throw one last thing in before someone gets banned.
HOW cool,would be to have Gilgamesh(the character from final fantasy,not the king irl) as a Champion in LoL.
Take my money right now Riot.

Isn't Gilgamesh supposedly canonically the same person in every game? Like, he just jumps from universe to universe because swords?
It's your boy Guzma!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 18:50:44
August 21 2012 18:49 GMT
#1653
On August 22 2012 03:49 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:48 TheKefka wrote:
On August 22 2012 03:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
I say no to pokemon, so you guys move on to D&D.

Real.

I just want to throw one last thing in before someone gets banned.
HOW cool,would be to have Gilgamesh(the character from final fantasy,not the king irl) as a Champion in LoL.
Take my money right now Riot.

Isn't Gilgamesh supposedly canonically the same person in every game? Like, he just jumps from universe to universe because swords?

Pretty much.
Also I just had a look at the champion spotlight for Rengar,I don't know but seems to me like he does fuck all damage lol.
Cackle™
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 21 2012 18:50 GMT
#1654
Remember Gilgamesh in FF V. He wasn't very witty, though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 21 2012 18:50 GMT
#1655
On August 22 2012 03:48 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
I say no to pokemon, so you guys move on to D&D.

Real.

I just want to throw one last thing in before someone gets banned.
HOW cool,would be to have Gilgamesh(the character from final fantasy,not the king irl) as a Champion in LoL?
I would pay in solid gold.

well they have alot of characters from the first one in here, the vampire that snake thing in the fire mountain, garland sorta

needs to have Death-Machine or whatever from before you fight Tiamat(that robot thats stronger than the boss rofl)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 18:51:12
August 21 2012 18:51 GMT
#1656
It's pretty normal on poppy top to go regrowth.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 18:54:24
August 21 2012 18:51 GMT
#1657
On August 22 2012 03:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:
And I realize there are probably online communities that I could get into, but I would like to, at some point, experience table top with a group of friends IRL


i wanted to buy a game that my g/f could play with me since her computer can't really run LoL and she sucks at it anyway, so we went to a local "It's Your Move" and asked questions for about an hour till we found a good fit

we ended up getting "Carcassonne" - touted as 'just as much fun with 2 people as it is with 6.' we spent the entire night playing, and went back and bought the expansion "Inns & Cathedrals" the next day. about 2 weeks later we still play every day and we're planning to buy another expansion soon. we've had a couple friends over to play too, it's simple enough to explain to someone who's never done tabletop gaming, and i feel it gets exponentially more fun with more players. i love the 2-player game, but a 4-player game adds a level of chaos that rivals mario party

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcassonne_(board_game)

if you're worried about not having enough people, i definitely recommend it as long as you can find 1 dedicated person to play with. adding more people adds fun but the 2 player game is 100% worth the purchase (main game was $30, expansion was $12)

~a tabletop gaming noob's opinion
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 18:55:51
August 21 2012 18:52 GMT
#1658
HP Regen is overvalued on Poppy because of her stupid passive. I HATE THAT DAMN CHARACTER SO MUCH.

EDIT: Carcassone is a really fun game gtr, I approve of that choice. I also recommend most games by these guys: http://www.cryptozoic.com/games. They're kinda goofy and random, but still have enough gameplay involved to have a good time and all play really fast. Played the hell out of Epic Spell Wars of the Battle Wizards this weekend and found it really entertaining and played some Food Fight as well, which was also a good time, though it was a little slower to learn and play.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 18:55:00
August 21 2012 18:53 GMT
#1659
On August 22 2012 03:46 Seuss wrote:
On a different topic, support Fiddle is amazing.

I tried it last night with my brother, who played Twitch. We went up against an Ezreal/Leona lane and completely crushed them. The Fear -> Silence combo is ridiculously strong, especially if you get lucky bounces. Leona basically couldn't initiate on us because of the CC and damage. Once I hit level 6 the lane was basically over.

I imagine certain duos would present a much greater threat, but it seems really strong.

Fiddle is actually a kill lane support, while being an anti-kill lane support at the same time. he's really strong in this meta imo.
I've always been a huge fan of fiddle support. Fear + life drain, is ridiculously strong, and allows you to tank for a long long time.

also wtf, i have christian mingle as a TL ad, (i'm atheist


On August 22 2012 03:52 Mogwai wrote:
HP Regen is overvalued on Poppy because of her stupid passive. I HATE THAT DAMN CHARACTER SO MUCH.


Considering that you play a lot of panth, I can understand your frustrations.
THAT SPEARS GUNNA GET THE KILL!
NOPE. OP'D POPPY PASSIVE
liftlift > tsm
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 21 2012 18:54 GMT
#1660
Her stupid passive + Minion damage reduction so stronk
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Prev 1 81 82 83 84 85 189 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 79
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 130
TKL 116
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2775
Flash 2432
Larva 811
Mini 674
Jaedong 507
BeSt 474
EffOrt 305
Pusan 299
Soulkey 262
Rush 252
[ Show more ]
Mong 203
Snow 170
Hyun 167
Last 152
ZerO 111
Sharp 91
Soma 85
Yoon 83
ToSsGirL 73
Mind 49
Shuttle 46
sorry 34
JulyZerg 33
JYJ 33
Shinee 32
Free 30
Sea.KH 27
GoRush 23
910 22
Movie 16
Bale 15
Icarus 13
Shine 11
Dota 2
qojqva844
Fuzer 153
XcaliburYe124
NeuroSwarm90
Counter-Strike
zeus1009
shoxiejesuss994
edward66
x6flipin1
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor146
Other Games
singsing1448
Liquid`RaSZi1357
B2W.Neo963
olofmeister481
crisheroes229
Mew2King148
Sick97
Hui .96
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick852
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV114
• lizZardDota231
League of Legends
• Jankos2308
Upcoming Events
HomeStory Cup
1d
Korean StarCraft League
1d 15h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-27
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.