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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 17 2012 15:12 GMT
#641
I don't mind comparisons being made. I think it brings fresh perspective on things. /shrug
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 15:33:25
August 17 2012 15:25 GMT
#642
On August 18 2012 00:04 greggy wrote:you must've gotten lucky because in my games, my team inevitably loses the 4v3 somehow.


It took them a long, long time to leverage it into an advantage. It wasn't even that clear we had an advantage until a team fight broke out at baron. That being said, I wasn't really worried because I had about 300 cs as Wukong haha (and could last indefinitely against Yorick pretty much).

Edit: It was especially funny because my team was like "Whelp, Wukong against Yorick, top loses." Although they might have been trolling.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 17 2012 15:33 GMT
#643
On August 17 2012 23:49 zer0das wrote:
It kind of depends on what junglers you're playing too. I play Warwick in normals, but I tend to try to avoid him in ranked games because I know that if I don't have a jungler that can bring a lot of early pressure, chances are my team is going to throw away the game and blame me. People just don't understand that sometimes they just need to be a bit less aggressive early on and ward. I don't think I've jungled a single ranked game as Warwick where my team wasn't revolting over the fact I didn't level 2 gank. Which is why I think you see a lot of seemingly stupid Warwicks try that...

Personally I find this really stupid. It's like half the people in ranked games don't know how to win a lane or break even if their jungler isn't there holding their hand the entire time. Sometimes people get bad matchups, and I understand that, but this goes way beyond that.

It's not exactly rocket science either. I had a game yesterday as Wukong against Yorick where I had to sit and survive in lane for 30 minutes while Skarner was ganking me every other minute (or trying to- he also cleared like 20 of my wards with oracles), and I didn't have any jungler help until after the laning phase was effectively over. Did I complain? Not really (other than the standard "Yorick is a retarded champion"), because my team was winning every other lane, had better dragon control, and I was still outfarming Yorick. Predictably we rolled them in every team fight, and on top of that, I didn't even die once. I think a lot of people have the mindset that they have to leave lane with 5-6 kills to have a chance to win the game, when that's just not true. People don't realize that they need to chill out and just passively farm to give their team the best chance to win in certain circumstances.

Or that untempered aggression when you have no idea where the enemy jungler is is a fool's errand more often than not, especially early.

I think a bit of the issue may come from people not knowing how to take advantage of an early lead. For example, ganking top at 2 or 3, getting the laner a kill, and they immediately think that this means they can dive at level 5 against a Jax and get a kill. It's a bit depressing to see people throw that away. Lane control is also an issue for jungling at lower levels, in that people don't understand that insta-clearing a wave and then asking for a gank is a really dumb idea.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 17 2012 15:45 GMT
#644
On August 18 2012 00:33 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 23:49 zer0das wrote:
It kind of depends on what junglers you're playing too. I play Warwick in normals, but I tend to try to avoid him in ranked games because I know that if I don't have a jungler that can bring a lot of early pressure, chances are my team is going to throw away the game and blame me. People just don't understand that sometimes they just need to be a bit less aggressive early on and ward. I don't think I've jungled a single ranked game as Warwick where my team wasn't revolting over the fact I didn't level 2 gank. Which is why I think you see a lot of seemingly stupid Warwicks try that...

Personally I find this really stupid. It's like half the people in ranked games don't know how to win a lane or break even if their jungler isn't there holding their hand the entire time. Sometimes people get bad matchups, and I understand that, but this goes way beyond that.

It's not exactly rocket science either. I had a game yesterday as Wukong against Yorick where I had to sit and survive in lane for 30 minutes while Skarner was ganking me every other minute (or trying to- he also cleared like 20 of my wards with oracles), and I didn't have any jungler help until after the laning phase was effectively over. Did I complain? Not really (other than the standard "Yorick is a retarded champion"), because my team was winning every other lane, had better dragon control, and I was still outfarming Yorick. Predictably we rolled them in every team fight, and on top of that, I didn't even die once. I think a lot of people have the mindset that they have to leave lane with 5-6 kills to have a chance to win the game, when that's just not true. People don't realize that they need to chill out and just passively farm to give their team the best chance to win in certain circumstances.

Or that untempered aggression when you have no idea where the enemy jungler is is a fool's errand more often than not, especially early.

I think a bit of the issue may come from people not knowing how to take advantage of an early lead. For example, ganking top at 2 or 3, getting the laner a kill, and they immediately think that this means they can dive at level 5 against a Jax and get a kill. It's a bit depressing to see people throw that away. Lane control is also an issue for jungling at lower levels, in that people don't understand that insta-clearing a wave and then asking for a gank is a really dumb idea.


I think this is just (one of the) overall problems of low ELO play: even worse than the lack of mechanics is the poor decision making. People don't know what to do with a lead, people don't know when/how to properly engage/set up a teamfight, people don't know when to take towers vs. Baron vs. Dragon, etc., people don't know what to do during the late game. As bad as ELow CS and combo mechanics are, proper actions within game are even worse. And trust me, I know, I'M SO BAD AT THIS SHIT SOMETIMES.
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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 17 2012 15:48 GMT
#645
I have a really hard time carrying as AD carry in low ELO (currently down to 1150 again). Yes, i win lane, i rarely die to ganks, i usually have the highest or close to the highest CS in the game, i never get caught alone... but in teamfights the whole enemy team (minus their AD) hunts me while my team hunts the enemy AD so my influence on the actual fight is limited to blowing my skills once and then running away from those 4 opponents as fast as my feet can carry me and trying to dodge all skillshot snares, stuns, etc., hoping none of them has flash up.
Then at some point me and/or the enemy AD are dead and i can only watch the remaining 4v4 in black and white and hope my team wins - which it rarely seems to do.

I had a game 3 days ago where the mid anivia and me told the team all the time to protect us... but yorick, taric and udyr kept chasing their AD and never caught him while their fed irelia trashed me under our tower.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 15:53:02
August 17 2012 15:49 GMT
#646
Oh yeah, I make crap calls all the time. But it usually only ends in my death, I've seen too many Barons and Dragons lost because people are fucking around in another lane or refuse to attack the monster and just sit in a bush instead.


On August 18 2012 00:48 Morfildur wrote:
I have a really hard time carrying as AD carry in low ELO (currently down to 1150 again). Yes, i win lane, i rarely die to ganks, i usually have the highest or close to the highest CS in the game, i never get caught alone... but in teamfights the whole enemy team (minus their AD) hunts me while my team hunts the enemy AD so my influence on the actual fight is limited to blowing my skills once and then running away from those 4 opponents as fast as my feet can carry me and trying to dodge all skillshot snares, stuns, etc., hoping none of them has flash up.
Then at some point me and/or the enemy AD are dead and i can only watch the remaining 4v4 in black and white and hope my team wins - which it rarely seems to do.

I had a game 3 days ago where the mid anivia and me told the team all the time to protect us... but yorick, taric and udyr kept chasing their AD and never caught him while their fed irelia trashed me under our tower.

You gotta play ADs that can peel/kite for themselves. I go Ez and get an early-ish Phage, I'm pretty much untouchable unless I do something horribly wrong or just get totally jumped 5v1. As long as Ez, Trist, Vayne, or Corki aren't on the front lines, you should rarely get caught. Ashe, Kog, and Varus, on the other hand...

Your team diving stupidly and dying is another matter :\
It's your boy Guzma!
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 15:51:43
August 17 2012 15:50 GMT
#647
Main DPSer sits in the brush adjacent to Baron

"IM GUARDING YOU GUYS!"
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 17 2012 15:53 GMT
#648
On August 18 2012 00:50 MooMooMugi wrote:
Main DPSer sits in the brush adjacent to Baron

"IM GUARDING YOU GUYS!"

Graves needed to go kill Golems, Baron was secondary on his list yo.
It's your boy Guzma!
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 17 2012 15:55 GMT
#649
i've queued up/against so far with 5HITCOMBO and soloside

must seek more people!!
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 16:29:33
August 17 2012 16:11 GMT
#650
I went from 1300- 1450 in no time as soon as I stopped whoring over mid and just played jungle and support every game.

The truth is, there will be games where you will lose no matter what you do, the same comes to winning games. The games you can affect are the ones that are even, which you might aswell do with support. Jungler and support are the roles people do not want, therefore they play them as little as possible, meaning they probablly suck at them. So what you do is you pick a support or jungler which can punish poor play from the enemy support or jungler. Would you rather be mid vs a player who has played 100+ games as that role, or play support bot vs a player that not only has played less than 20 games as that role, but is absolutely pissed about having to play it and will tilt easily?

As much as I try to convince myself I am a great mid, my Ahri only has a 53% win rate, extemely mediocre stat. My Janna on the other hand has a 70% winrate (relatively few games played though), and my Shyvana has a 60% win rate. So I´m probablly not a better mid than the average 1300-1400 player, but I do know I am a better jungler and support than the average 1300-1400 player.

You may not be able to go 10-0 with support and super carry, but if you were good enought to do that regularly you wouldn´t be in low ELO. Most people probablly have selective memories to protect their egos.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 17 2012 16:13 GMT
#651
On August 18 2012 00:11 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 23:49 zer0das wrote:
It kind of depends on what junglers you're playing too. I play Warwick in normals, but I tend to try to avoid him in ranked games because I know that if I don't have a jungler that can bring a lot of early pressure, chances are my team is going to throw away the game and blame me. People just don't understand that sometimes they just need to be a bit less aggressive early on and ward. I don't think I've jungled a single ranked game as Warwick where my team wasn't revolting over the fact I didn't level 2 gank. Which is why I think you see a lot of seemingly stupid Warwicks try that...

Personally I find this really stupid. It's like half the people in ranked games don't know how to win a lane or break even if their jungler isn't there holding their hand the entire time. Sometimes people get bad matchups, and I understand that, but this goes way beyond that.

It's not exactly rocket science either. I had a game yesterday as Wukong against Yorick where I had to sit and survive in lane for 30 minutes while Skarner was ganking me every other minute (or trying to- he also cleared like 20 of my wards with oracles), and I didn't have any jungler help until after the laning phase was effectively over. Did I complain? Not really (other than the standard "Yorick is a retarded champion"), because my team was winning every other lane, had better dragon control, and I was still outfarming Yorick. Predictably we rolled them in every team fight, and on top of that, I didn't even die once. I think a lot of people have the mindset that they have to leave lane with 5-6 kills to have a chance to win the game, when that's just not true. People don't realize that they need to chill out and just passively farm to give their team the best chance to win in certain circumstances.


People assume they are playing with retards, which means they have to carry the game if they want to win. And the "best" way to carry a game is to snowball your lane massively. To do that, you often have to take major risks, and many times it just ends up putting you behind.

Carrying a game hardcore style is a great feeling and people want to experience that every game. Though, I have to say that it's even more rewarding to outplay a counterpick enough to go even on farm and not die, then win lategame. More people should try playing safe, it's pretty fun ^^

99% of the time they ARE playing with retards.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
August 17 2012 16:30 GMT
#652
The only champs that I can say that I am really confident in playing are all jungle/support champs, although there are a couple top lane champs that I have absurd winrates largely due to near-insurmountable lane counterpicking.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 17 2012 16:32 GMT
#653
On August 18 2012 01:11 Hakanfrog wrote:
I went from 1300- 1450 in no time as soon as I stopped whoring over mid and just played jungle and support every game.

The truth is, there will be games where you will lose no matter what you do, the same comes to winning games. The games you can affect are the ones that are even, which you might aswell do with support. Jungler and support are the roles people do not want, therefore they play them as little as possible, meaning they probablly suck at them. So what you do is you pick a support or jungler which can punish poor play from the enemy support or jungler. Would you rather be mid vs a player who has played 100+ games as that role, or play support bot vs a player that not only has played less than 20 games as that role, but is absolutely pissed about having to play it and will tilt easily?

As much as I try to convince myself I am a great mid, my Ahri only has a 53% win rate, extemely mediocre stat. My Janna on the other hand has a 70% winrate (relatively few games played though), and my Shyvana has a 60% win rate. So I´m probablly not a better mid than the average 1300-1400 player, but I do know I am a better jungler and support than the average 1300-1400 player.

You may not be able to go 10-0 with support and super carry, but if you were good enought to do that regularly you wouldn´t be in low ELO. Most people probablly have selective memories to protect their egos.


Well, if your strength is jungle, just play like Shyv/Olaf and not guys like Nunu IMO, because those champs can carry pretty hard midgame, and take turrets like a boss.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#654
On August 18 2012 00:55 Conversion wrote:
i've queued up/against so far with 5HITCOMBO and soloside

must seek more people!!


You're more than welcome to try and snipe me. Just brush up on your vs. Viktor game ;P
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 16:45:41
August 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#655
janna is by far one of the strongest carries in the game imo. She can indirectly output enormous amounts of dps by virtue of keeping the ADC alive. Similar can be said of most other supports, but i feel like janna in particular is the best at this. In lower, and even mid-high elo ranges, the ability to keep your primary dmg dealer alive, regardless of the completely fucking retarded plays he/she makes, can easily win games.
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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 17 2012 17:21 GMT
#656
i think there's too much of this "everyone on LoL is dumb so I have to carry the team" mentality. i keep seeing questions on AMA or on stream chat of "how do i get out of low ELO, which characters do i play to carry the team." and i really think what you need to do is just play your own character well and instead of just assuming everyone is an idiot you need to be able to concentrate and read the tendencies of your opponents and teammates and play off of them instead of assuming they'll make plays you expect them to make.

as far as support goes, you can help your team win like you can in the other roles. wards and oracles naturally set up ambushes. in lanes you mostly poke, initiate or peel.

"if my ad sucks then i'm useless."
it's the same with any lane too. if your jungler sucks and you're top and baits you badly, you're 0-2 and you're practically useless. if mid sucks badly and the enemy mid wanders a lot, the other lanes get screwed over too. if you're ad and your support sucks you're useless. top is snowbally too so you can complain as your useless 20 cs top feeds a darius who wanders and kills everything.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 17:30:05
August 17 2012 17:26 GMT
#657
playing support is all fine and dandy but problem is that you, yourself, do not carry the game. you cannot 1v2 people like if you were a proper carry, you set someone up to do this.

just last game, I was soraka with mf vs graves/taric (down to 1050 elo from 1150, hue). all of those three were godawful, missed cs everywhere with no harass, no jungler intervention or anything either. so we're doing alright, i'm being generally useful and not feeding, clearing wards, etc. we're 25-10 up, and my entire team goes full retard, decides to go 3v5 at baron, dies, gives the opposing team a baron, comes back, dies again, score's now 25-18, push vs baron buff, die again and lose. I was like 0-1-15, but because the carries are dumb as shit, you can't save them and you lose.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 17 2012 17:30 GMT
#658
On August 18 2012 02:26 greggy wrote:
playing support is all fine and dandy but problem is that you, yourself, do not carry the game. you cannot 1v2 people like if you were a proper carry, you set someone up to do this.

just last game, I was soraka with mf vs graves/taric (down to 1050 elo from 1150, hue). all of those three were godawful, missed cs everywhere with no harass, no jungler intervention or anything either. so we're doing alright, i'm being generally useful and not feeding, clearing wards, etc. we're 25-10 up, and my entire team goes full retard, decides to go 3v5 at baron, dies, gives the opposing team a baron, comes back, dies again, score's now 25-18, push vs baron buff, die again and lose. I was like 0-1-15, but because the carries are dumb as shit, you can't save them and you lose.


I heard you shouldn't even play support at that kind of Elo.
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Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
August 17 2012 17:32 GMT
#659
On August 18 2012 02:26 greggy wrote:
playing support is all fine and dandy but problem is that you, yourself, do not carry the game. you cannot 1v2 people like if you were a proper carry, you set someone up to do this.

just last game, I was soraka with mf vs graves/taric (down to 1050 elo from 1150, hue). all of those three were godawful, missed cs everywhere with no harass, no jungler intervention or anything either. so we're doing alright, i'm being generally useful and not feeding, clearing wards, etc. we're 25-10 up, and my entire team goes full retard, decides to go 3v5 at baron, dies, gives the opposing team a baron, comes back, dies again, score's now 25-18, push vs baron buff, die again and lose. I was like 0-1-15, but because the carries are dumb as shit, you can't save them and you lose.


How the fuck could you ever win that with any role? A throw is a throw, there is no way to stop it from happening.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 17 2012 17:32 GMT
#660
On August 18 2012 02:26 greggy wrote:
playing support is all fine and dandy but problem is that you, yourself, do not carry the game. you cannot 1v2 people like if you were a proper carry, you set someone up to do this.

just last game, I was soraka with mf vs graves/taric (down to 1050 elo from 1150, hue). all of those three were godawful, missed cs everywhere with no harass, no jungler intervention or anything either. so we're doing alright, i'm being generally useful and not feeding, clearing wards, etc. we're 25-10 up, and my entire team goes full retard, decides to go 3v5 at baron, dies, gives the opposing team a baron, comes back, dies again, score's now 25-18, push start pushing vs baron buff, die again and lose. I was like 0-1-15, but because the carries are dumb as shit, you can't save them and you lose.


What i noticed whenever i play support is the risk of being a good support: The carrys run into more and more ridiculous situations the more you save them from those. Keep the AD alive in a 2v3? Great. Then he runs into a 2v4, you use all your skill to save him. Then he decides, hey, i survived all that, let's run into 2v5!

I managed to keep teams alive through 4v5 battles under the enemy tower just to see them running into a 3v5 under 2 enemy towers on the next opportunity.
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