EPT[Patch 1.0.0.145: Rengar] General Discussion - Page 184
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:02 HazMat wrote: This is off-topic but Obama's Reddit AMA crashed the site in 40 minutes, lol. I donno how much more bandwidth they can afford to purchase. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:21 cLutZ wrote: I still don't think the Janna or Soraka Nerfs (except the heal armor one) were warranted. Lulu yes, but she was overtuned like nearly every release champ these days. The problem with the Ali nerfs is they didn't nerf the problems with his jungle (gank city). They just made his already terrible farming even worse. Soraka's nerfs were largely centered around killing her ability to sustain infinitely without thought. It was a problem both with Soraka mid and Soraka support unless she went overboard with Q spam. You'll note that they adjusted her mana costs when she lost her personal mana battery. Ultimately you don't see Soraka mid these days not because of those nerfs, but because she's bad at roaming. They nerfed Zephyr because you got more than half the passive's worth with 1 rank, and between that and her passive she had, by default, more movespeed% at level1-2 than someone who stacked Movespeed Quints and masteries. The AP ratio nerf was for essentially the same reason as the Glitterlance nerfs, it was too good of a harass tool (especially combined with Q) once you started getting AP. You really shouldn't be farming as Alistar anyway, but the Trample nerf was pretty minimal (9 damage per ability use). The only other nerf relevant to jungling was the Headbutt damage change which, while insufficient, wasn't a bad idea. The PBE Headbutt range change may be more to your liking. On August 30 2012 05:46 Sufficiency wrote: I decayed once already. I played a couple and maintained my Elo. Hue. I think Elo decays once a month? I am probably good for another 2 weeks :3 Three weeks, and no Season 2 didn't end yesterday. You're stuck playing ranked games through and beyond October. I've actually decayed 3-4 times this season. This obviously means I'm actually 2k (no you may not point out the logical fallacies required to reach this conclusion)! | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:06 Roffles wrote: Wish I had an icon. Show off | ||
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Lmui
Canada6218 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:02 HazMat wrote: This is off-topic but Obama's Reddit AMA crashed the site in 40 minutes, lol. Something that hits top post on the frontpage in under 15 minutes will do that, especially since it's going at somewhere around 200+ comments a minute. Sad to see though, obama only set aside half an hour for the ama apparently which means that only questions with a few hundred upvotes are going to get answered. | ||
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TheShadowPlayer1
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:06 Roffles wrote: Wish I had an icon. Im glad i have a custom location! | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
Is there something wrong with my thinking? Is there any reason to buy RoA over Rylai's if you're not getting both and need to start charging it early? | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:11 TheShadowPlayer1 wrote: Does anyone know if your Elo resets at the start of the nnew season, adn does anyoen know when the new season is ? if it's the same as last time, it's a weighted reset, where your elo from the previous season partially dictates your new start. I think if you were below 1200 then you would reset to 1200, then if you had higher elo, then you would start with a slightly higher elo. Afaik, the highest you could start was like 1400 tho. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:14 Node wrote: So, after taking 5HIT's advice on going Rylai's over RoA on Cho with pretty decent success, I started wondering why anyone would go Rod first at all. People usually get Cata for the sustain, but mana shouldn't be an issue these days with blue buff being what it is, and getting Giant's Belt first gives more of a health buffer and costs less anyways. The Rylai's passive ends up being soooo much better than RoA's, and it gives more health and AP until charged. Is there something wrong with my thinking? Is there any reason to buy RoA over Rylai's if you're not getting both and need to start charging it early? You should almost always build Rylai over RoA unless you are one of those extremely mana hungry casters (Swain, Karthus, Kassadin) | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:14 Node wrote: So, after taking 5HIT's advice on going Rylai's over RoA on Cho with pretty decent success, I started wondering why anyone would go Rod first at all. People usually get Cata for the sustain, but mana shouldn't be an issue these days with blue buff being what it is, and getting Giant's Belt first gives more of a health buffer and costs less anyways. The Rylai's passive ends up being soooo much better than RoA's, and it gives more health and AP until charged. Is there something wrong with my thinking? Is there any reason to buy RoA over Rylai's if you're not getting both and need to start charging it early? If you are talking about Cho alone,Rylai's is better yea.Cho clears so easy with his E auto's he doesn't really mana starve himself at all on farming alone. While were at it,Imo someone is going to bust out ap chogath for the regionals. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:19 sylverfyre wrote: Or if you get something "extra" for having max. mana, like Ryze or Singed. Or those 2. Sorry I forgot. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
I had a game last night where I got killed twice early. Once from a jungle gank, the next from just a bad engagement. After that point, I was way behind on farm and he had the kills and another from a bad jungler who came up and died. Another game, I was Nunu vs a Rumble, a pretty difficult matchup for most people from what I hear. He just pushed, harassed, and was generally just an asshole like Rumble is as a champion. He got two kills on me because I thought I was stronger than I really was, and then snowballed that. Both times, I ended up admittedly feeding because I kept trying to get farm, and every time I stepped away from tower they just killed me. However, just sitting under tower getting no gold or experience makes me useless. What is the correct thing to do besides "get farm but die a bunch" or "sit back and be 4 levels and 50 CS behind"? Should I be roaming to try and gank another lane, take my jungle, or what? Keep in mind this is solo queue, so you can't really count on the jungler coming up to help you get caught back up with ganks. | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:05 Seuss wrote: Three weeks, and no Season 2 didn't end yesterday. You're stuck playing ranked games through and beyond October. I've actually decayed 3-4 times this season. This obviously means I'm actually 2k (no you may not point out the logical fallacies required to reach this conclusion)! Yes! That means my real rating is almost 2.4k!! | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:15 barbsq wrote: if it's the same as last time, it's a weighted reset, where your elo from the previous season partially dictates your new start. I think if you were below 1200 then you would reset to 1200, then if you had higher elo, then you would start with a slightly higher elo. Afaik, the highest you could start was like 1400 tho. The range was 906-1490, with the vast majority falling between 1100-1400. You had to be really, really bad to reset to 906, and really, really good to reset to 1490. We'll likely see a similar, though not exact, reset at the start of Season 3. Right now we don't know when Season 2 ends or Season 3 starts. Season 1 carried on for several months following the championships, so if they extend the ladder again we might not see Season 3 until 2013. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:15 barbsq wrote: if it's the same as last time, it's a weighted reset, where your elo from the previous season partially dictates your new start. I think if you were below 1200 then you would reset to 1200, then if you had higher elo, then you would start with a slightly higher elo. Afaik, the highest you could start was like 1400 tho. i'm not sure exactly how it works. i barely played ranked at all in season 1 and i started at 1380 in season 2 | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:30 Seuss wrote: The range was 906-1490, with the vast majority falling between 1100-1400. You had to be really, really bad to reset to 906, and really, really good to reset to 1490. We'll likely see a similar, though not exact, reset at the start of Season 3. Right now we don't know when Season 2 ends or Season 3 starts. Season 1 carried on for several months following the championships, so if they extend the ladder again we might not see Season 3 until 2013. oh, i didn't actually know that it was possible to start sub 1200. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On August 30 2012 06:41 barbsq wrote: oh, i didn't actually know that it was possible to start sub 1200. If you were really sub-1200, they rescaled you back to 900 and up. | ||
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