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And a perfect Janna ult to split iG and send two flying to the tower. Unforgiving.
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
And a perfect Janna ult to split iG and send two flying to the tower. Unforgiving. | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
This was terrible for iG | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
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On August 27 2012 22:28 Alaric wrote: You were wrong, MoonBear. They aren't playing 2 AP + Skarner, they're playing 3 burst champs + Skarner. Double AP + Skarner + an AD with Burst like Corki/Ez/Graves. Exact same set up they used in OGN. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
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On August 27 2012 22:32 Alaric wrote: No harm intended, I was simply nitpicking about the burst that Graves put out on pour Corki right there bot. CptJack loves Graves. Pretty predictable pick from him. K1d has been underwhelming as an AD Carry these few games. Losing MikakoTabe was a big deal for iG. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
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3-0 clean sweep of iG by Azubu. Sheesh. | ||
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Celial
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On second thought, Shen can do everything of that too, has a ranged harass and global ult. But wouldn't Rammus be tankier without items with his skills? With gold Shen is superior for sure, but in a 0 cs meta support? Also, long as fuck single target taunt vs pretty short aoe taunt... | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
The saddest thing in the world in teamfights. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On August 27 2012 23:11 Celial wrote: I was thinking (I know, bad). How good would Rammus support be? He has sick brush control, forcing the enemy lane to stay on the river side to not get powerballed. He prevents the enemy from aggression through the threat of taunt. He can go aggro with powerball and taunt. If he gets caught, defensive ball curl. He has a (somewhat) spammable ult with really good aoe damage which helps getting turrets. On second thought, Shen can do everything of that too, has a ranged harass and global ult. But wouldn't Rammus be tankier without items with his skills? With gold Shen is superior for sure, but in a 0 cs meta support? Also, long as fuck single target taunt vs pretty short aoe taunt... Back in season one a friend and I had something like a 80% winrate as rammus ashe bot at the 1300 elo range. Then I told a mutual high elo friend of ours who told us it was super dumb and only worked cause we were low elo and then we never did it again =(. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On August 27 2012 23:30 Vanka wrote: Back in season one a friend and I had something like a 80% winrate as rammus ashe bot at the 1300 elo range. Then I told a mutual high elo friend of ours who told us it was super dumb and only worked cause we were low elo and then we never did it again =(. Rammus support I can agree it can sucks, because rammus needs a shittons of items to tank, and if not he is just useless. But there is something I would like to ask, I played volibear support with friends a bit and it was really great. Was it a fluke too ? Anybody ever tried it ? | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
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On August 27 2012 23:30 Vanka wrote: Back in season one a friend and I had something like a 80% winrate as rammus ashe bot at the 1300 elo range. Then I told a mutual high elo friend of ours who told us it was super dumb and only worked cause we were low elo and then we never did it again =(. Let's apply some critical thinking here. What do we like about Ashe+Rammus bot lane?
Ok, so what do we not like?
So let's see if we can fix this and try and create a lane that does the same thing but with more consistency. First, let's change Rammus for another champion who can CC but still provide zoning control. Leona is also tanky and has defensive steriods, provides more burst damage, has lots of CC and has a gap closer. Sounds good. Now what about Ashe. Replacing her means you lose CC at level 6 but Leona more than makes up for it with her Solar Flare at lvl 6. So get someone with more burst and a smoother power curve who reliably proc Leona's Passive and help in an all-in situation. Let's say, Corki. In other words, Rammus+Ashe is a less consistent version of Leona+Corki. On August 27 2012 23:41 Mogwai wrote: support voli is cheesy. it does work up to very high elos as long as your ranged AD knows how to play it right though. Is very fun to watch and play though. Caitlyn shuts him down with traps though. Makes him eat free damage all day. Also needs an AD that can follow up on him properly. But mang, Voli is tanky and annoying even with few items. Get baited by passive all day. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 27 2012 23:11 Celial wrote: I was thinking (I know, bad). How good would Rammus support be? He has sick brush control, forcing the enemy lane to stay on the river side to not get powerballed. He prevents the enemy from aggression through the threat of taunt. He can go aggro with powerball and taunt. If he gets caught, defensive ball curl. He has a (somewhat) spammable ult with really good aoe damage which helps getting turrets. On second thought, Shen can do everything of that too, has a ranged harass and global ult. But wouldn't Rammus be tankier without items with his skills? With gold Shen is superior for sure, but in a 0 cs meta support? Also, long as fuck single target taunt vs pretty short aoe taunt... Rammus doesn't have quite the sick brush control you think. Powerball is countered by wards or by simply standing amongst minions and dashing out just before Rammus arrives. Most supports also have abilities which make it difficult to land or make anything out of a Powerball, and Rammus is vulnerable while rolling. It could work in theory, but ultimately it seems like an inferior version of Leona support. e;fb by the not MoonBear. | ||
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Requizen
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Celial
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but yeah the way moonbear puts it makes sadly sense. like ls said a couple pages back: if you wanna win, no sense in doing anything less than optimal in any given situation =/ | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 27 2012 23:44 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Is very fun to watch and play though. Caitlyn shuts him down with traps though. Makes him eat free damage all day. Also needs an AD that can follow up on him properly. But mang, Voli is tanky and annoying even with few items. Get baited by passive all day. if picking support voli baits the opposing team into playing Cait, it's probably worth it. I can say that I'd honestly rather have a support voli than a ranged AD Cait late in the game, lol. | ||
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