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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 18:43:16
August 06 2012 18:42 GMT
#1181
Right, it kind of slipped my mind that you can max Q and W first and E is not part of your damage, just utility. I guess the slow and lower cd will be neat sometimes, but Q/W will have priority. And I shouldn't judge stuff before seeing it ingame (I guess I underrated how strong E is), but it's so easy to make up some random opinion . I still want to play her in lane more than I want to in the jungle, but I only really play one jungler anyway.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 06 2012 18:49 GMT
#1182
what is this yolo thing, i always see like a million rage comics about it. I can tell it stands for you only live once but I don't get why this is offensive?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 06 2012 18:50 GMT
#1183
On August 07 2012 03:42 h3r1n6 wrote:
Right, it kind of slipped my mind that you can max Q and W first and E is not part of your damage, just utility. I guess the slow and lower cd will be neat sometimes, but Q/W will have priority. And I shouldn't judge stuff before seeing it ingame (I guess I underrated how strong E is), but it's so easy to make up some random opinion . I still want to play her in lane more than I want to in the jungle, but I only really play one jungler anyway.

I'm going to be maxing W>E>Q when I try her. 24->18 CD is pretty damn significant, especially since with CDR, that lets you have 2-3 pulls in a fight, rather than just 1.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 18:59:02
August 06 2012 18:53 GMT
#1184
On August 07 2012 03:20 sylverfyre wrote:
Yeah, she has a REALLY good clear, she is a good duelist and doesn't go low while jungling, even early. Awful pre-6 ganks will hold her back a little bit - her pre-6 ganks consist of walking into lane with no speedups, maybe poking once with Q, and hoping you get in range to press E. After 6, it won't even matter if you can get your Q off on them, just using RE is going to be extremely powerful positionally, and her lane ganks could be extremely good too - Q a minion so you can R to it and R again to your gank target. Only lee sin currently closes gaps that well, and he has to land a skillshot to do so. But waiting until 6 is a problem.

She needs very little AP to do resonable damage, really - her base numbers are pretty good. I think building durability and not all that much AP will turn out to be fine on her. Going to try her with just a sheen for damage and mostly resist/tanky items.

Also, compared to most assassins, she has INCREDIBLE teamfight utility with her gapclose, her E and her durability. I feel like her E is on par with Alistar's Q, and doesnt require a funky combo to gapclose from really far away (though hitting Q is nice, it's not 100% necessary - R has a cooldown like most non-ult skills - 20/16/12 sec base CD.)


I don't think her pre-6 ganks will be awful. Yes, she has to get in range for her E, but that's enough of a threat to force flashes and summoners top, mid, and potentially bottom if you avoid their wards, or get kills if flash is already down. Moonlight also reveals, so if you land a Q bushes aren't half as effective as normal.

On August 07 2012 03:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:42 h3r1n6 wrote:
Right, it kind of slipped my mind that you can max Q and W first and E is not part of your damage, just utility. I guess the slow and lower cd will be neat sometimes, but Q/W will have priority. And I shouldn't judge stuff before seeing it ingame (I guess I underrated how strong E is), but it's so easy to make up some random opinion . I still want to play her in lane more than I want to in the jungle, but I only really play one jungler anyway.

I'm going to be maxing W>E>Q when I try her. 24->18 CD is pretty damn significant, especially since with CDR, that lets you have 2-3 pulls in a fight, rather than just 1.


If you're hitting 40% CDR in your planned build it's a difference of 3.6 seconds per CD (14.4 vs 10.8). That's significant, but the third pull feels as though it will be tenuous either way. I think I'd prefer to max Q for lower CD, more damage, and better sticking potential.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 18:56:19
August 06 2012 18:54 GMT
#1185
On August 07 2012 03:49 UniversalSnip wrote:
what is this yolo thing, i always see like a million rage comics about it. I can tell it stands for you only live once but I don't get why this is offensive?


The idea of YOLO is meant to be like carpe diem - seize the day. It's meant to be about living your life to the fullest. But absolute morons nowadays use yolo to justify doing moronic shit like jumping off a bridge for no reason other than "you only live once, man!" Doing something stupid that can get you killed for no reason other than "you only live once!" isn't the REAL idea of yolo, but literally everyone uses the term in the wrong way that it's basically become only a phrase that morons use to justify stupid actions.

Edit:
Man, why whenever I buy another champ, that's the exact time a really awesome champ is supposed to come out? I really like akali and assassin-like champs, but I wanted ahri. T_T Now I have only 300 IP for diana and suess is making me want to buy her. WHY MONTE, WHY.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 06 2012 18:54 GMT
#1186
On August 07 2012 03:49 UniversalSnip wrote:
what is this yolo thing, i always see like a million rage comics about it. I can tell it stands for you only live once but I don't get why this is offensive?

it's from the motto by Drake and people get upset about it because basically people do retarded shit and justify it by saying "yolo"
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Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 19:00:04
August 06 2012 18:57 GMT
#1187
OPPS
(Posted in the wrong thread, my bad!)
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
August 06 2012 19:01 GMT
#1188
On August 07 2012 03:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:42 h3r1n6 wrote:
Right, it kind of slipped my mind that you can max Q and W first and E is not part of your damage, just utility. I guess the slow and lower cd will be neat sometimes, but Q/W will have priority. And I shouldn't judge stuff before seeing it ingame (I guess I underrated how strong E is), but it's so easy to make up some random opinion . I still want to play her in lane more than I want to in the jungle, but I only really play one jungler anyway.

I'm going to be maxing W>E>Q when I try her. 24->18 CD is pretty damn significant, especially since with CDR, that lets you have 2-3 pulls in a fight, rather than just 1.


18*3=54 24*2=48, so you wouldn't get 3 instead of 1. Of course the cooldown goes down nicely, I just like to nitpick.

Q going down from 10 to 6 seems more significant for me. Since I will try and lane her first, the shoving/poking power of Q seems too important. In the jungle I don't know, but being able to use Q->R more seems better to me. Again though, needs testing.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 19:07:27
August 06 2012 19:06 GMT
#1189
On August 07 2012 04:01 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:50 TheYango wrote:
On August 07 2012 03:42 h3r1n6 wrote:
Right, it kind of slipped my mind that you can max Q and W first and E is not part of your damage, just utility. I guess the slow and lower cd will be neat sometimes, but Q/W will have priority. And I shouldn't judge stuff before seeing it ingame (I guess I underrated how strong E is), but it's so easy to make up some random opinion . I still want to play her in lane more than I want to in the jungle, but I only really play one jungler anyway.

I'm going to be maxing W>E>Q when I try her. 24->18 CD is pretty damn significant, especially since with CDR, that lets you have 2-3 pulls in a fight, rather than just 1.


18*3=54 24*2=48, so you wouldn't get 3 instead of 1. Of course the cooldown goes down nicely, I just like to nitpick.

Q going down from 10 to 6 seems more significant for me. Since I will try and lane her first, the shoving/poking power of Q seems too important. In the jungle I don't know, but being able to use Q->R more seems better to me. Again though, needs testing.


That's not exactly correct because the first pull happens at 0.0s. You actually mathed out 4 vs 3 pulls.

Without CDR you're looking at two pulls at 24 seconds versus three pulls at 36 seconds. In that case getting even that second pull seems iffy. With CDR it's 14.4 vs 21.6, which is more reasonable but still somewhat uncertain on that third pull.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
August 06 2012 19:08 GMT
#1190
Did EU west just die?
Cackle™
princessmasterhacker
Profile Joined July 2012
United States9 Posts
August 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#1191
Hey guys. So I'm looking for some clutch plays in LoL tourneys that are totally memorable for a promo video.
Aside from footage of Azubu crushing TSM, do you guys know of any other moments and where to find HD (or higher quality) footage of awesome plays?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 06 2012 19:12 GMT
#1192
On August 07 2012 04:09 princessmasterhacker wrote:
Hey guys. So I'm looking for some clutch plays in LoL tourneys that are totally memorable for a promo video.
Aside from footage of Azubu crushing TSM, do you guys know of any other moments and where to find HD (or higher quality) footage of awesome plays?


EMPIIIIIIRE - sry idk where to find.
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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 06 2012 19:15 GMT
#1193
On August 07 2012 04:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 04:09 princessmasterhacker wrote:
Hey guys. So I'm looking for some clutch plays in LoL tourneys that are totally memorable for a promo video.
Aside from footage of Azubu crushing TSM, do you guys know of any other moments and where to find HD (or higher quality) footage of awesome plays?


EMPIIIIIIRE - sry idk where to find.



qft.If your highlight video doesn't include an EMPIIIIIIIIIRE, then it isn't valid at all.

Also, check out this thread here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=199350
Lots of cool highlight videos linked in there. Like, a couple per page.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 06 2012 19:19 GMT
#1194
On August 07 2012 03:38 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:33 BlackPaladin wrote:
Voyboy just said "yolo"

I can never like him as a player again. Sorry.

You obviously like owls

Is your content... questionable?
It's your boy Guzma!
princessmasterhacker
Profile Joined July 2012
United States9 Posts
August 06 2012 19:20 GMT
#1195
On August 07 2012 04:15 Terranasaur wrote:

qft.If your highlight video doesn't include an EMPIIIIIIIIIRE, then it isn't valid at all.

Also, check out this thread here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=199350
Lots of cool highlight videos linked in there. Like, a couple per page.



Yeah I checked it but I'm looking for more tourney action of a bit higher video quality. I'm checking through mlg/ipl highlights
but i was wondering if ya'll recall any special moments/big games I should remember to cover.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 06 2012 19:25 GMT
#1196
On August 07 2012 04:08 TheKefka wrote:
Did EU west just die?

Issues on EUW Server. NOC has been notified and are working on it.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 06 2012 19:26 GMT
#1197
oh ok thought i was the only one with issues.
xiaoW
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands284 Posts
August 06 2012 19:28 GMT
#1198
what is NOC?
servers are down since 30 minutes ago.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
August 06 2012 19:30 GMT
#1199
This is the 3rd time the server crashed for me right as I was done with a ranked game,score screen never came up,don't get elo np.
Cackle™
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 06 2012 19:30 GMT
#1200
On August 07 2012 04:28 xiaoW wrote:
what is NOC?
servers are down since 30 minutes ago.

Network Operations Centre

I only just came on to TL. NOC's been on the case the moment the issue occurred. Fear not.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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