EPT[Patch 1.0.0.144: Diana] General Discussion - Page 52
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
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iaeuy
United States249 Posts
On August 06 2012 03:49 Dark_Chill wrote: I actually never understood that. I had thought Taric was one of the weaker supports, and then I heard about his stats. My thoughts were "how is Taric support better than Ali support?" Alistar has better cc, which is one of the most important things for a support now. He's a much stronger tank, and with Taric being melee and needing to be in melee range to use his damaging spells, means Alistar is a lot more useful in the mid-game. Alistar can also jungle, meaning that on top of his great support he has another option making him harder to counterpick. Taric seems to be some kind of Jack of all Trades (cc, heal, buff, debuff, damage) master of none, and I thought those were mostly discouraged because you'd rather excel in one area. Taric is easier and takes less coordination to use. He also has better guarenteed burst. Also idk if you're including bans but if you're not that's obviously part of why ali isnt played more. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On August 06 2012 04:18 Leonite7 wrote: Well after a large losing streak from 1360 to 1200, what would you guys recommend for champions to carry with? Got 80% of the champions I think. Fast moving jungler with good ganks that can build damage like rammus/heca/lee sin etc. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On August 06 2012 04:28 iaeuy wrote: Taric is easier and takes less coordination to use. He also has better guarenteed burst. Also idk if you're including bans but if you're not that's obviously part of why ali isnt played more. The less coordination is IMO why hes a soloQ guy. Dazzle is pretty simple and the passive armor buff is pretty good for trading before the "go for it" moment. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 06 2012 04:47 TheKefka wrote: I don't understand who in the right mind thought it was a good idea to make zyras root able to pass through creeps. The same guy who thought a true damage kill steal nuke that reset on kills would be a good idea. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On August 06 2012 04:47 TheKefka wrote: I don't understand who in the right mind thought it was a good idea to make zyras root able to pass through creeps. Yeah, it's like morg binding without the ability to hide behind creeps. Honestly though Zyra's FB/FP material right now because of how retarded strong her laning and teamfighting is. | ||
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
On August 06 2012 03:41 101toss wrote: Graves is an ad with training wheels, good when you're starting Then you learn what it's like to get poked with people that have >525 range Then you buckshot and do more damage than their poke? | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On August 06 2012 04:48 cLutZ wrote: The less coordination is IMO why hes a soloQ guy. Dazzle is pretty simple and the passive armor buff is pretty good for trading before the "go for it" moment. This is also part of the reason I think carrying with TF and Ahri is best in Solo Que. A huge pink heart and a big yellow card that explodes are giant ENGAGE signs. They also both gank very well, Ahri with her 3 dashes and CC, TF with his teleport and point and click stun | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On August 06 2012 04:29 JackDino wrote: Fast moving jungler with good ganks that can build damage like rammus/heca/lee sin etc. Junglers than can build damage ->rammus LOL | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 06 2012 05:07 Feartheguru wrote: Then you buckshot and do more damage than their poke? Don't forget a dash that gives you a steroid that, in a way, reduces it's own CD. I don't see Graves as OP or anything, but goddamn if his kit isn't one of the best in the game, so fluid and slick. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 06 2012 04:53 obesechicken13 wrote: The same guy who thought a true damage kill steal nuke that reset on kills would be a good idea. Her E is fine (comparable to Swain's W imo). It's her Q+E's interaction with her W and her ultimate that is not fine. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On August 06 2012 05:10 Sufficiency wrote: Her E is fine (comparable to Swain's W imo). It's her Q+E's interaction with her W and her ultimate that is not fine. So her whole kit isn't fine | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On August 06 2012 05:08 MooMooMugi wrote: Junglers than can build damage ->rammus LOL Phantom Dancer on Rammus is actually legit. He gets tons of AD and resistances for free, so PD + some HP is strong. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Highwayman
United States181 Posts
On August 05 2012 19:29 JackDino wrote: Honestly the only problem I see with raging is that people lose focus on the game and are busier arguing than actually playing. Flaming someone for making a mistake doesn't exactly help them play better either. People fail to understand that even if you're right and you criticize something someone did in game, it's still not productive communication usually because the game is complex enough that people are going to see things differently and there's no point in educating them unless they're receptive to it. Any communication that isn't productive is something to be avoided, even mild whines and whatnot when something bad happens. If you need to vent in chat then that's a personal fault. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On August 06 2012 05:10 Sufficiency wrote: Her E is fine (comparable to Swain's W imo). It's her Q+E's interaction with her W and her ultimate that is not fine. It isn't comparable to swains W at all because only brain dead people get caught by his W at 900 range without being slowed. The only way to hit swains W is to hit the bird first so they cant just walk out of the trap so easy. Her root has 1100 range and travels ridiculously fast.As people said it's pretty much a morgana bind on crack. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
That's not what I said. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 06 2012 05:07 Feartheguru wrote: Then you buckshot and do more damage than their poke? THe reason I don't like noobs learning graves is because it doesn't teach them anything about actually playing AD carry. It completely forgoes the idea of learning how to harass while csing. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
On August 06 2012 05:13 spinesheath wrote: Phantom Dancer on Rammus is actually legit. He gets tons of AD and resistances for free, so PD + some HP is strong. Legit for trolling normals, sure. | ||
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