[Patch 1.0.0.144: Diana] General Discussion - Page 50

On August 05 2012 19:29 wei2coolman wrote:

Not really~ It's sort of the gaming way... It's sort of how community is.

I guess I'm just nostalgia fagging it up, but back in the days of CS, and CS:S, the trash talk was fucking amazing. Some of the funniest and wittiest lines of trash talk was said through the mic. It was glorious, either you could stand your ground with the trash talk or you just didn't say shit, it was awesome.

Also, I hate the whole "nice community" bullshit, that's just a load of shit. It's so fucking fake. Essentially people want normal people to "act" nice, they don't actually want a nice community. They just want a community that "acts" it. And you know what? FUCK THAT SHIT. The internets always been about being true to itself. I deal with enough fucking fake ass personas in the real world, I don't need the internet to turn into a circlejerk of fake ass people.

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."-Oscar Wilde

On August 05 2012 22:55 Nightmare-br wrote:
Hey guys, I have a small question here. When you are playing mid, when/with who do you generally want to go Deathfire Grasp?

I am asking this because I saw Alex Ich building it in a lot of different champions recently, but I don´t see it that often in competitive play.

On August 05 2012 23:50 101toss wrote:
^learn graves first, learn how bot lane works

Then play trist and destroy everyone

If anyone likes I can 1v1 them bot for a feel, though supports and junglers are indeed integral to how the lane functions

On August 06 2012 00:03 Dandel Ion wrote:

1v1. With AD carrys.
wat am i
i dont
wat

1v1 top/mid is already unrealistic but bot? what the hell. That's the absolute most useless comparison in all of LoL.

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 06 2012 00:06 JackDino wrote:

You never played in the glorious days of ashe mid have you?

On August 06 2012 00:06 JackDino wrote:

You never played in the glorious days of ashe mid have you?

On August 06 2012 00:08 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Oh my. People saying Taric is too strong? I remember when the new Taric came out (new R, W, modified Q and E duration) and people were saying he'd be useless while I tried telling everyone how he was seriously legit. /hipster

Ok. Bot lane.

In Bot lane, the Support should be creating farm space for the carry. It's not enough to sit in the bush all day and throw out an occasional heal. This isn't Season 1 any more. The support needs to be moving, and pressuring the other side and deterring aggression, or responding to aggression. For example,a s Leona you have a really big threat range that says "If you get within E distance of me, I will all in your face." Keep moving to relieve pressure from your AD so they can just last hit.

The AD needs to be able to follow up on the support. Again, Leona as the example. If I see the other AD overextend like an idiot and their support isn't ready to peel and I can see you close enough to follow up, I am going to go all in and punch their face in. Don't keep hitting minions. Go in on them and follow up. You need to be on the same page as your support and understand what they want to do. Communication is super important.

Of course, in solo queue people act like idiots all the time. So eh. As the AD, you'll generally have to make more plays, especially since there will rarely be a support who understands the lane dynamics, wave control, threat ranges and burst levels. If you watch Doublelift, you'll notice he sometimes forgoes one or two cs every wave to get harass on the other AD. Generally their support will be just as bad as yours. And AD players tend to only think about ricing. So when you go in to last hit, forget that 20 gold you could get from a minion. Go auto the other AD Carry and use a spell on them. (e.g. As Caitlyn hit them and then Q them and hit them again when they run). Boom. Instant lane control. Sure the lane will push a little but that's what wards are for. And you're Caitlyn. What do you care lol.

Awesomefusion has done a series of guides on Youtube about playing AD Carry, especially in solo queue. They're pretty useful so do check them out if you're interested.

On August 05 2012 23:27 gtrsrs wrote:
thanks for the bot lane help guys, i will start banning blitz and try picking up graves
the problem is never my last hitting - i mean i'm playing in the 1300s, everyone there is bad, i win the cs battle by 20+ every laning phase. the problem is just as soon as my opponent makes an aggro move, i'm not sure how to respond. sometimes i run and live. sometimes i stand and fight and live. but most times i run and die or fight and die. even when playing corki. i guess i should just duo it up with someone and get a feel for more exchanges. also phosphorous bomb is hard as hell to hit wtf



as for the internet rage thing, i think it's safe to say that most competitive people who are in the game to win it (i.e. most of us on TL) are mature enough to not let ragers get to them, and mature enough not to fly off the handle at someone for making a mistake. the thing is, it feels like the lol population is primarily 12-to-14-year-olds, and THEY are just bundles of hormones and emotions and angst at their parents; when someone ELSE on your team makes a mistake, your teammates are going to blow their lid off onto THEM. that's when the problems start. if there was an ignore button you could make so that teammate X couldn't hear teammate Y, i would win every game. i have no problem staying calm, i just need a way to help my teammates stay calm (by blocking my other teammates from communicating with them)

On August 06 2012 01:00 Dark_Chill wrote:
Just a random question concerning banning:
What would happen if teams didn't take turns banning, and instead were allowed to use all their bans in a certain time limit? What would be the effect on higher level play, and even lower level play?

On August 05 2012 23:50 101toss wrote:
^learn graves first, learn how bot lane works

Then play trist and destroy everyone

If anyone likes I can 1v1 them bot for a feel, though supports and junglers are indeed integral to how the lane functions

On August 06 2012 01:01 gtrsrs wrote:
yes, the delay and cast time make it really really weird
lots of times i try to shoot it and then change my mind but it's like already in cast animation and i can't cancel it and i just hate it
i like everything else about corki, honestly i'd consider maxing E on him because i'm so bad with Q

i also have never landed a single caitlyn Q in a game either
i really don't like cast times on skillshots O_O