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On August 05 2012 19:29 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 19:24 spinesheath wrote:On August 05 2012 19:21 wei2coolman wrote:On August 05 2012 19:21 JackDino wrote:On August 05 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Why can't people just tough it out? It's a video game, no need to get all butthurt over it. If you play you play to win. That means you care. If you don't rage you simply don't care enough and you shouldn't play. Or I could play to win without getting my anus all bruised up over some guy getting mad at me? You can not get butthurt and still wish for a nicer atmosphere. I personally would enjoy a friendlier atmosphere, would you not? Not really~ It's sort of the gaming way... It's sort of how community is. I guess I'm just nostalgia fagging it up, but back in the days of CS, and CS:S, the trash talk was fucking amazing. Some of the funniest and wittiest lines of trash talk was said through the mic. It was glorious, either you could stand your ground with the trash talk or you just didn't say shit, it was awesome. Also, I hate the whole "nice community" bullshit, that's just a load of shit. It's so fucking fake. Essentially people want normal people to "act" nice, they don't actually want a nice community. They just want a community that "acts" it. And you know what? FUCK THAT SHIT. The internets always been about being true to itself. I deal with enough fucking fake ass personas in the real world, I don't need the internet to turn into a circlejerk of fake ass people. "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."-Oscar Wilde
first thing you ever typed that i completely agree with
well actually just the 3rd paragraph also the quote at the end contradicts everything you said but yeah
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How to be a cool guy in League; "If I type this would I want my mother to see this, would I talk like this in public, would I want to be told this if I was in X guys position"
It's hard but it's really just not being a jerk to people. You can tell people how to improve without spouting off caps and insults like you just came off of Youtube comments section. *shrug*
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On August 05 2012 19:39 Xevious wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 19:35 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:21 JackDino wrote:On August 05 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Why can't people just tough it out? It's a video game, no need to get all butthurt over it. If you play you play to win. That means you care. If you don't rage you simply don't care enough and you shouldn't play. So wrong. There are several pro gamers that literally NEVER rage. And do better as a result. Good example would be Yellowpete from CLG.eu. He always has the highest ELO within his team, because he just plays his best in solo Q and never gets distracted by bullshit. it's not about raging in chat or yelling at other people or whatever, it's about feeling anger at the game when you lose. just because he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't feel it (this is an entirely different discussion that what we were talking about earlier btw).
Of course its about the inner feeling. And the calmer you are, the lower your heart beat is, the better player you are. That is a fact. Maybe you can feel anger after the game, during the game it is just a handicap.
Something Idra for example never achieved, which is probably one of the reasons why he never was succesful. In contrast to some Koreans (or a player like Stephano) who manage to stay focussed throughout the whole game. The same phenomenon can be seen in cs, the best players always stay calm.
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On August 05 2012 19:50 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 19:39 Xevious wrote:On August 05 2012 19:35 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:21 JackDino wrote:On August 05 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Why can't people just tough it out? It's a video game, no need to get all butthurt over it. If you play you play to win. That means you care. If you don't rage you simply don't care enough and you shouldn't play. So wrong. There are several pro gamers that literally NEVER rage. And do better as a result. Good example would be Yellowpete from CLG.eu. He always has the highest ELO within his team, because he just plays his best in solo Q and never gets distracted by bullshit. it's not about raging in chat or yelling at other people or whatever, it's about feeling anger at the game when you lose. just because he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't feel it (this is an entirely different discussion that what we were talking about earlier btw). Of course its about the inner feeling. And the calmer you are, the lower your heart beat is, the better player you are. That is a fact. Maybe you can feel anger after the game, during the game it is just a handicap. Something Idra for example never achieved, which is probably one of the reasons why he never was succesful. In contrast to some Koreans (or a player like Stephano) who manage to stay focussed throughout the whole game. The same phenomenon can be seen in cs, the best players always stay calm.
Lower heartbeat doesn't make you a better player lol. Plenty of players that make big plays, get an adrenaline rush, insane heartbeat and play crazy good because of it. I don't know where you get your "facts" from or if you even know what a fact is.
The reason Idra isn't as succesfull as he could be is because he gives up way too early.
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On August 05 2012 19:50 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 19:39 Xevious wrote:On August 05 2012 19:35 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:21 JackDino wrote:On August 05 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Why can't people just tough it out? It's a video game, no need to get all butthurt over it. If you play you play to win. That means you care. If you don't rage you simply don't care enough and you shouldn't play. So wrong. There are several pro gamers that literally NEVER rage. And do better as a result. Good example would be Yellowpete from CLG.eu. He always has the highest ELO within his team, because he just plays his best in solo Q and never gets distracted by bullshit. it's not about raging in chat or yelling at other people or whatever, it's about feeling anger at the game when you lose. just because he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't feel it (this is an entirely different discussion that what we were talking about earlier btw). Of course its about the inner feeling. And the calmer you are, the lower your heart beat is, the better player you are. That is a fact. Maybe you can feel anger after the game, during the game it is just a handicap. Something Idra for example never achieved, which is probably one of the reasons why he never was succesful. In contrast to some Koreans (or a player like Stephano) who manage to stay focussed throughout the whole game. The same phenomenon can be seen in cs, the best players always stay calm.
..what
Even when Idra was raging like fuck, he could still best any BW Foreigner during his time on the top.
Only thing I could really say is when your Anger peaks your decision making may suffer slightly, but i highly doubt being calm is always going to make you a better player
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On August 05 2012 19:54 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 19:50 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:39 Xevious wrote:On August 05 2012 19:35 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:21 JackDino wrote:On August 05 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Why can't people just tough it out? It's a video game, no need to get all butthurt over it. If you play you play to win. That means you care. If you don't rage you simply don't care enough and you shouldn't play. So wrong. There are several pro gamers that literally NEVER rage. And do better as a result. Good example would be Yellowpete from CLG.eu. He always has the highest ELO within his team, because he just plays his best in solo Q and never gets distracted by bullshit. it's not about raging in chat or yelling at other people or whatever, it's about feeling anger at the game when you lose. just because he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't feel it (this is an entirely different discussion that what we were talking about earlier btw). Of course its about the inner feeling. And the calmer you are, the lower your heart beat is, the better player you are. That is a fact. Maybe you can feel anger after the game, during the game it is just a handicap. Something Idra for example never achieved, which is probably one of the reasons why he never was succesful. In contrast to some Koreans (or a player like Stephano) who manage to stay focussed throughout the whole game. The same phenomenon can be seen in cs, the best players always stay calm. Lower heartbeat doesn't make you a better player lol. Plenty of players that make big plays, get an adrenaline rush, insane heartbeat and play crazy good because of it. I don't know where you get your "facts" from or if you even know what a fact is. The reason Idra isn't as succesfull as he could be is because he gives up way too early.
why is everything i post eventually derailed into something as stupid as how your heartbeat affects how well you play which isn't even what he was talking about he was just using the example of a lower heartbeat to represent being calm and methodical about the game (which includes not giving up early like you mentioned).
edit: i'm not personally taking either stance that being calm or angry can necessarily affect your play
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On August 05 2012 20:01 Xevious wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 19:54 JackDino wrote:On August 05 2012 19:50 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:39 Xevious wrote:On August 05 2012 19:35 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:21 JackDino wrote:On August 05 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Why can't people just tough it out? It's a video game, no need to get all butthurt over it. If you play you play to win. That means you care. If you don't rage you simply don't care enough and you shouldn't play. So wrong. There are several pro gamers that literally NEVER rage. And do better as a result. Good example would be Yellowpete from CLG.eu. He always has the highest ELO within his team, because he just plays his best in solo Q and never gets distracted by bullshit. it's not about raging in chat or yelling at other people or whatever, it's about feeling anger at the game when you lose. just because he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't feel it (this is an entirely different discussion that what we were talking about earlier btw). Of course its about the inner feeling. And the calmer you are, the lower your heart beat is, the better player you are. That is a fact. Maybe you can feel anger after the game, during the game it is just a handicap. Something Idra for example never achieved, which is probably one of the reasons why he never was succesful. In contrast to some Koreans (or a player like Stephano) who manage to stay focussed throughout the whole game. The same phenomenon can be seen in cs, the best players always stay calm. Lower heartbeat doesn't make you a better player lol. Plenty of players that make big plays, get an adrenaline rush, insane heartbeat and play crazy good because of it. I don't know where you get your "facts" from or if you even know what a fact is. The reason Idra isn't as succesfull as he could be is because he gives up way too early. why is everything i post eventually derailed into something as stupid as how your heartbeat affects how well you play which isn't even what he was talking about he was just using the example of a lower heartbeat to represent being calm and methodical about the game (which includes not giving up early like you mentioned). edit: i'm not personally taking either stance that being calm or angry can necessarily affect your play
And I'm using the example of a high heartbeat to show you not being calm and still being a great player making great plays.
If everything you post about gets derailed to something stupid you should consider that what you're posting is actually stupid(inb4 oh the ironing etc).
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On August 05 2012 20:12 JackDino wrote:
(inb4 oh the ironing etc).
edit: also that makes literally no sense because i could've posted anything you guys just randomly started talking about heartbeats and shit
anyway time to sleep goodnight
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On August 05 2012 19:56 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 19:50 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:39 Xevious wrote:On August 05 2012 19:35 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:21 JackDino wrote:On August 05 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Why can't people just tough it out? It's a video game, no need to get all butthurt over it. If you play you play to win. That means you care. If you don't rage you simply don't care enough and you shouldn't play. So wrong. There are several pro gamers that literally NEVER rage. And do better as a result. Good example would be Yellowpete from CLG.eu. He always has the highest ELO within his team, because he just plays his best in solo Q and never gets distracted by bullshit. it's not about raging in chat or yelling at other people or whatever, it's about feeling anger at the game when you lose. just because he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't feel it (this is an entirely different discussion that what we were talking about earlier btw). Of course its about the inner feeling. And the calmer you are, the lower your heart beat is, the better player you are. That is a fact. Maybe you can feel anger after the game, during the game it is just a handicap. Something Idra for example never achieved, which is probably one of the reasons why he never was succesful. In contrast to some Koreans (or a player like Stephano) who manage to stay focussed throughout the whole game. The same phenomenon can be seen in cs, the best players always stay calm. ..what Even when Idra was raging like fuck, he could still best any BW Foreigner during his time on the top. Only thing I could really say is when your Anger peaks your decision making may suffer slightly, but i highly doubt being calm is always going to make you a better player
Cancel CC would like a word with you. 
All you SC2 scumbags go away and pretend I never posted this.
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being playing with Twitch and holy crap, late game twitch ulti is fuking insane, 850 ranged + piercing ain't fooling around..
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On August 05 2012 20:26 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 19:56 arb wrote:On August 05 2012 19:50 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:39 Xevious wrote:On August 05 2012 19:35 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:21 JackDino wrote:On August 05 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Why can't people just tough it out? It's a video game, no need to get all butthurt over it. If you play you play to win. That means you care. If you don't rage you simply don't care enough and you shouldn't play. So wrong. There are several pro gamers that literally NEVER rage. And do better as a result. Good example would be Yellowpete from CLG.eu. He always has the highest ELO within his team, because he just plays his best in solo Q and never gets distracted by bullshit. it's not about raging in chat or yelling at other people or whatever, it's about feeling anger at the game when you lose. just because he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't feel it (this is an entirely different discussion that what we were talking about earlier btw). Of course its about the inner feeling. And the calmer you are, the lower your heart beat is, the better player you are. That is a fact. Maybe you can feel anger after the game, during the game it is just a handicap. Something Idra for example never achieved, which is probably one of the reasons why he never was succesful. In contrast to some Koreans (or a player like Stephano) who manage to stay focussed throughout the whole game. The same phenomenon can be seen in cs, the best players always stay calm. ..what Even when Idra was raging like fuck, he could still best any BW Foreigner during his time on the top. Only thing I could really say is when your Anger peaks your decision making may suffer slightly, but i highly doubt being calm is always going to make you a better player Cancel CC would like a word with you. All you SC2 scumbags go away and pretend I never posted this.
Truthfully I would have left too, I think a bunch of people i knew would have. I thought about including that but decided not to(mostly since i couldnt watch tsl 2 at the time and dunno what build nony was going for) a mistake like that pretty much means the games over anyway
On August 05 2012 20:39 Shizuru~ wrote:
being playing with Twitch and holy crap, late game twitch ulti is fuking insane, 850 ranged + piercing ain't fooling around..
would have loved when it was like 140% attack speed 1000 range and lasted like 10 seconds without that dumb piercing reduction.
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On August 05 2012 21:00 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 20:26 Roffles wrote:On August 05 2012 19:56 arb wrote:On August 05 2012 19:50 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:39 Xevious wrote:On August 05 2012 19:35 Redox wrote:On August 05 2012 19:21 JackDino wrote:On August 05 2012 19:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Why can't people just tough it out? It's a video game, no need to get all butthurt over it. If you play you play to win. That means you care. If you don't rage you simply don't care enough and you shouldn't play. So wrong. There are several pro gamers that literally NEVER rage. And do better as a result. Good example would be Yellowpete from CLG.eu. He always has the highest ELO within his team, because he just plays his best in solo Q and never gets distracted by bullshit. it's not about raging in chat or yelling at other people or whatever, it's about feeling anger at the game when you lose. just because he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't feel it (this is an entirely different discussion that what we were talking about earlier btw). Of course its about the inner feeling. And the calmer you are, the lower your heart beat is, the better player you are. That is a fact. Maybe you can feel anger after the game, during the game it is just a handicap. Something Idra for example never achieved, which is probably one of the reasons why he never was succesful. In contrast to some Koreans (or a player like Stephano) who manage to stay focussed throughout the whole game. The same phenomenon can be seen in cs, the best players always stay calm. ..what Even when Idra was raging like fuck, he could still best any BW Foreigner during his time on the top. Only thing I could really say is when your Anger peaks your decision making may suffer slightly, but i highly doubt being calm is always going to make you a better player Cancel CC would like a word with you. All you SC2 scumbags go away and pretend I never posted this. Truthfully I would have left too, I think a bunch of people i knew would have. I thought about including that but decided not to(mostly since i couldnt watch tsl 2 at the time and dunno what build nony was going for) a mistake like that pretty much means the games over anyway Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 20:39 Shizuru~ wrote:
being playing with Twitch and holy crap, late game twitch ulti is fuking insane, 850 ranged + piercing ain't fooling around.. would have loved when it was like 140% attack speed 1000 range and lasted like 10 seconds without that dumb piercing reduction.
I can't really remember what the exact details were, but I knew that NoNy actually had a cheese prepared for that game, which Idra never got to see due to him cancelling his CC.
If he had stayed in the game or not cancelled it in the first place, NoNy wouldn't have been able to beat him using the said strategy in game 7.
Edit: too many quotation tags, got confused. Decided to just leave the whole thing there
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On August 05 2012 20:39 Shizuru~ wrote:
being playing with Twitch and holy crap, late game twitch ulti is fuking insane, 850 ranged + piercing ain't fooling around..
Yeah, he is amazing, had 3 games this morning, and once you get an ie and maybe a zeal you can just roam around insta-gibbing squishies. Laning can be a bit tough though, what supports do you find work the best?
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Did udyr get nerfed in the last few months? I remember all the top players QQing about how retardedly strong and safe he was. Now nobody seems to play him anymore.
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Missed a joke, pass on lol
But still, let me just state that if you rage (in chat) you don't care about winning enough.
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On August 05 2012 21:52 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Did udyr get nerfed in the last few months? I remember all the top players QQing about how retardedly strong and safe he was. Now nobody seems to play him anymore.
Was only a like 20 hp? or something nerf to turtle but thats it i think.
He's still retardedly strong top
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On August 05 2012 21:08 Leonite7 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 20:39 Shizuru~ wrote:
being playing with Twitch and holy crap, late game twitch ulti is fuking insane, 850 ranged + piercing ain't fooling around.. Yeah, he is amazing, had 3 games this morning, and once you get an ie and maybe a zeal you can just roam around insta-gibbing squishies. Laning can be a bit tough though, what supports do you find work the best?
i think Sona's Ulti fits perfectly
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Hey guys, I have a small question here. When you are playing mid, when/with who do you generally want to go Deathfire Grasp?
I am asking this because I saw Alex Ich building it in a lot of different champions recently, but I don´t see it that often in competitive play.
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On August 05 2012 22:55 Nightmare-br wrote:
Hey guys, I have a small question here. When you are playing mid, when/with who do you generally want to go Deathfire Grasp?
I am asking this because I saw Alex Ich building it in a lot of different champions recently, but I don´t see it that often in competitive play.
I think theres some champions like Veigar who will want it first
most of the time Dc -> situational on alot of heroes though.
like TF for example sometimes ill go dc lb then get dfg afterwords, sometimes ill delay and get abyssal.
really depends on a situation when you need the burst i think
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On August 05 2012 22:55 Nightmare-br wrote:
Hey guys, I have a small question here. When you are playing mid, when/with who do you generally want to go Deathfire Grasp?
I am asking this because I saw Alex Ich building it in a lot of different champions recently, but I don´t see it that often in competitive play.
It's especially good if your AP has:
- High cooldowns
- high burst
- few skills with AP scaling // poor AP scaling
But it's also a really good item in general, has baller lategame, and is very useful for dunking it on tanky champs. the mp5 and CDR help in lane and it's just a good item.
Have I told you it's a good item? Cause it's good.
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