EPTWas idly spectating one of the featured games, and a jungle Trundle on Lautemortis/Nubbypoohbear's team managed an amazing baron steal - walked in 1v5, enemy team sensible stopped to blow him up while the baron was outside of Smite range, and then resume, only to get a TRUNDLE HAS SLAIN BARON NASHOR message. Sneaky troll had managed to ult it, huehuehue - I'll have to muck around with AP Trundle in a bot game for a laugh.
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
Was idly spectating one of the featured games, and a jungle Trundle on Lautemortis/Nubbypoohbear's team managed an amazing baron steal - walked in 1v5, enemy team sensible stopped to blow him up while the baron was outside of Smite range, and then resume, only to get a TRUNDLE HAS SLAIN BARON NASHOR message. Sneaky troll had managed to ult it, huehuehue - I'll have to muck around with AP Trundle in a bot game for a laugh. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 05 2012 15:08 gtrsrs wrote: how exactly does anyone bot lane? i can't get the feel of it no matter what i do. i can't judge the damage output of 2 champions, and champs like graves (infinite burst, sustained damage, cc, lol balanced champ) and taric (infinite burst, cc, heal, lol balanced champ) are always fucking my day. i don't want to forego necessary bans like ali/naut but i also don't want to cave in and play graves. what do? how exactly am i supposed to get better at bot lane? i don't know how to play AD when i have a leona or blitz on my team - when they're on the other team i get bursted 100% of the time, when they're on my team i feel like any aggro action by them is going to result in my own death. is it about going balls deep? i'm determined to become a more well-rounded player even if it means another -400 elo to learn >:C Um learn to lasthit, learn when it's safe to harrass with autos / skills, don't prioritize lasthits purely over harrass and harrass when you have the chance, stay outside the effective aggro range of the support, and finally try Ezreal or another AD with an escape mechanism. I don't get why you wouldn't want to learn Graves because he's one of the most independent bottom laners, still I think that Ezreal is generally stronger because he is incredibly difficult to counter in any way. Knowing when you can engage and when you cannot comes with experience but generally you don't need to force allin trades without a good situation unless your support sucks | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On August 05 2012 15:59 Nos- wrote: Did someone just complain that Taric was too strong of a support? Pretty common complaint, no? His lane dominance can be very annoying, even though most other supports provide more lategame. | ||
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Phil4994
United States143 Posts
I don't see how it's much different from other lanes other than the fact that you have to learn "more matchups". Bot lane is the most frustrating lane in solo queue the way I see it. Due to bot lane currently being the lane given the least attention by junglers, it is just you and your support buddy down there. You need to be 'N Sync....but it's solo queue and you have no chemistry. So a mistake will be made by one of you. That mistake just cost you the lane. Then ensues the team banter, "this bot lane...gg....so bad..." Even though the players may be good, the communication is fresh and developing. Now you may be thinking, "But wait, that situation occurs with every jungler gank". Well yes, but these ganks occur every 1-2 minutes. This means that the chance for miscommunication to occur is lower. While in bot lane, the AD and Support and together every second of the early game and every second is a chance for a mistake to be made due to a lack of chemistry. TL;DR Bot Lane has to factor in communication along with player skill more than other lanes. Solo queue has never been the greatest place for communication. | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
Definitely ban Blitzcrank. Fuck Blitzcrank. Solo queue terror champion that should never see the light of day. Taric will also give you a lot of trouble. Alistar and Leona would too if Alistar wasn't permaban and people actually knew how to play (read: ever picked) Leona. | ||
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IMoperator
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On August 05 2012 16:22 IMoperator wrote: quick question, if you use the rune combiner, does that get rid of the rune completely or just for one page? Like if I combined some runes for page 2, would that make them disappear from page one? You can't combine runes that are in use in any pages. no matter what page you use the rune combiner on its the same thing | ||
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
On August 05 2012 16:22 IMoperator wrote: quick question, if you use the rune combiner, does that get rid of the rune completely or just for one page? Like if I combined some runes for page 2, would that make them disappear from page one? it disappears totally - you own a set of runes and you can reuse them on each page, putting runes on page 1 doesnt mean you cant put the same rune on page 2 | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On August 05 2012 16:22 IMoperator wrote: quick question, if you use the rune combiner, does that get rid of the rune completely or just for one page? Like if I combined some runes for page 2, would that make them disappear from page one? For all pages. Runes are not multiplied with your pages or something like that. You arrange the same runes differently in your pages. lol I should have known there was no need to reply. | ||
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IMoperator
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On August 05 2012 07:51 wei2coolman wrote: Hecarims passive is so bad~, it forces people to build him incorrectly, then wonder why they fail with the champ. Also, practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect. People actually building boots5 on him are the best. Gotta have that big AD when out of combat. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On August 05 2012 16:27 IMoperator wrote: alright thanks. the rune combiner is pretty bad anyway, just was wondering if i could get rid of some runes i replaced well if its a rune thats been really phased out(say idk mp/l blues or something?) or you know you'll never use its fine. but if they're in use or you're gonna be using them i wouldnt get rid of them. sometimes you'll get lucky though | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
Or if you're feeling bored and want to gamble with combining 205 runes. | ||
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Xevious
United States2086 Posts
lol honestly i find it ridiculous how people hope to accomplish anything by posting pointless threads like this aside from making people feel sorry for them, does anyone actually think that some "rager" is going to see that thread and have it affect them. the worst part of the post is where he assumes anyone who enjoys yelling at people is a sick bastard considering he himself and so many other people he probably views as "nice" would enjoy yelling at people (not to say they do, just that they would enjoy it under certain circumstances because they're human too). also fuck this bullshit about the "LoL community" or "moba community" it's even more retarded that people think people that play this game and other mobas just also happen to all be angry kids (which they aren't). it's not about the community it's about the game. this game brings out something different in people, it gives people so many excuses to be angry + makes it really easy to blame other people for anything, the thing i hate the most if how the "starcraft community" is perceived to be so nice and goody two shoes or whatever when in reality it's the same fucking people lol. in league you can fuck up 4-9 other peoples' time whereas in sc2 the only person's time you can waste is your own if you choose to troll or whatever. people who rage and talk shit a lot in league don't do it because they're bad people (mostly) they do it because that's what the game brings out in them and it feels satisfying to do it. i cite the greater internet fuckwad theory which relates pretty specifically to this, in a 1v1 game there is no audience whereas in a 5v5 game it's the complete opposite it makes complete sense that normal people like the kind of people who post nice happy shit on reddit will randomly become douchebags when they're angry and 4-9 people are listening to them. also why is the ignore button so hard to press, hell just report them too if you think they don't deserve to play the game because they called you a noob or whatever. honestly it's really easy to tell if people are just mad to the point of not giving a fuck in which case nothing you say will make them not rage at you in which case you use your ignore button and stop trying to deal with them. at that point i'm perfectly fine with people getting banned for stuff like that partially because it's just completely irrational at that point but mostly just because at that point they're usually not trying in the game, most of the "rage" i see at high elo however is people who actually want to win the game and are mad at their team because they're causing that to not happen, which is still kind of annoying but i just have something against people who are putting 100% effort into the game getting reported/banned for it when we have such features as the ignore list. of course even the really annoying people in ranked don't compare to the people that whine or rage the slightest bit in normal games. honestly at that point is just becomes pity; i feel sorry for the people that get angry in normal games, partially because they take normal games seriously at all and partially because they get mad about something that literally doesn't matter at all (unless i guess you're particularly concerned about your normal elo in which case i pity you even more). i sincerely wish these people would just play ranked, not only could they at least feel justified in their tryharding but also there's an end goal in ranked and you actually improve at the game. but playing tryhard normals and raging at people who are just playing games that don't matter to have fun and taking a break from the tryharding is probably the most unhappy and pathetic way anyone could possibly spend their free time. this might belong in the QQ thread but in my eyes it's not really QQ more of a truth rant tbh so yeah | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Even though the chances are slim, his post might trigger someone to become a bit nicer. Or it might cause Riot to punish flamers harder. That post doesn't hurt anyone. Your post does nothing useful at all. You talk bad about someone wishing for the world to be just a tiny bit better. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
on the other hand I think they already have a ton of innate resistance vs bans because it takes a lot of reports to get sent to tribunal, and people who try just don't accumulate reports at the same rate. I've seen a lot of people say things like "how the fuck do people get banned I rage all the time and I've never been warned" on here and I think it's because they don't straight up troll when things aren't going their way, they just yell, and that's fine. If you are putting effort into the game it's way harder for you to get banned than some idiot who is just blowing his lid and afking constantly so what is the issue? The problem you describe doesn't seem to exist. | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
Really? | ||
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Xevious
United States2086 Posts
On August 05 2012 17:54 spinesheath wrote: Your post is way worse than the one you linked. Even though the chances are slim, his post might trigger someone to become a bit nicer. Or it might cause Riot to punish flamers harder. That post doesn't hurt anyone. Your post does nothing useful at all. You talk bad about someone wishing for the world to be just a tiny bit better. first off neither post is useful, the difference is that mine wasn't trying to be. my post doesn't hurt anyone, and i never talked bad about him lol. there's nothing wrong with wanting attention for no reason, that's just as human as raging at people in video games. edit: also reddit karma i forgot about that too, hey while you're being nice to new players don't forget to buy wards some guy posted this in the reddit thread, kind of sums up what i'm trying to say only he made it sound nicer so it's more acceptable i guess? less ranting about random irrelevant topics too + Show Spoiler + Sure, I'll be the asshole. Get, fucking, used to it. You're now playing the number one most played online competitive combat MOBA style PC game. You're also a new player in a style of gameplay that has been around for a decade. You're learning now, and you're not even touching the surface. You need to find friends who play, make friends, or make your friends play. This game is extremely unfriendly and unforgiving in the "normal" games and in the 'Leveling up" phase. The problem is, a huge portion of the playerbase is full of people who have multiple accounts, or have played these games before. When a game takes 30 to 40 minutes of your time, and a rookie makes rookie mistakes the whole time, the rookie gets the rake handle in the ass for the game. It's IRRITATING to have a game go wrong because one guy performed incorrectly. Trust me, be happy you're allowed to requeue after you fuck up a game, because in DOTA you'd be banned for joining and not being good automatically. This game, is like this. Just get used to it. I've been playing since BETA and i've dealt with about 9 times the amount of shit you've experienced in 3months, and worse then what you describe. You haven't met the "middle died once, I'm done, im forfeiting" guy 5 minutes into a game. You haven't met the "OMFG GANK MY LANE WHILE I PUSH INTO TOWER RANGE" Ad Cary guy, while you're level 4 in the jungle. Don't come to places like this and bitch and wine about people not babying new players. The fact of the matter is, this games playerbase is dog shit, and will get worse if we cradle every guy and girl who complains about how people act. This is a GLOBAL community, which means most people from other counties don't want your shit, and dont think like you. It's a game to you, but to a lot of people it's not. You have to learn to enjoy the aspects of it that DON'T involve strangers, randoms, solo queues, or trolls. Don't just ignore them, GET BETTER, AND BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE WHO DOUBTED YOU. Edit: Note to the OP - I'm not mad at you, but i'm not going to hold your hand about it either. No one is forcing you to play. If the other players make you uncomfortable, quit. Because they never will. It's 15 million + people who, make some friends somehow. | ||
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