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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 03:50:34
August 05 2012 03:47 GMT
#901
standard AD runes, the only runes you can play around with as AD are blues. If you come to lane with less AD or less armor you're gonna lose trades, unless you're good enough to know how to play the lane with your rune set in which case you can do whatever. There are basically three general category of bot lanes, poke, kill, sustain, and some are a mix of two.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11804 Posts
August 05 2012 03:48 GMT
#902
On August 05 2012 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
Also, why the fuck can't you buy runes with RP? They're expensive as shit.


Probably because that would feel too much like buying power. If you really want, you can buy an IP boost.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 05 2012 03:49 GMT
#903
On August 05 2012 12:48 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
Also, why the fuck can't you buy runes with RP? They're expensive as shit.


Probably because that would feel too much like buying power. If you really want, you can buy an IP boost.

Correct. Riot policy is that money never buys actual power. You can get IP Boosts, but you have to work for that power. Even the "complete content unlock" referral reward doesn't unlock runes.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 05 2012 03:56 GMT
#904
On August 05 2012 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
Also, why the fuck can't you buy runes with RP? They're expensive as shit.

Some excuse about them not wanting to sell power

Also to give you a reason to buy ip boosts
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 05 2012 03:56 GMT
#905
On August 05 2012 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
Also, why the fuck can't you buy runes with RP? They're expensive as shit.

Yea, I think they should let people but 'em with RP but w/e.

Regarding Hecarim. If you're building him to deal damage, you're better off getting a BT. It's more shit for less money than 2 PDs. Hecarim's passive is not nearly as good as Vaporized seems to think it is. It's not the core of his kit, it's simply the cherry on top if you will. Hecarim's core ability that you should be building around is his W, imo. That's what makes Hecarim strong and unique; not his passive.

Sejuani seems like she'd use FM well. It makes her a walking slowbot and powers her W. BUT, it's completely wasted on her if you get 40% cdr. With Sej E, FM will increase the total slow from 70% to like...maybe ~80% if that. It's a neglible increase. With max CDR, your permafrost slow has a 4 second downtime, but a 70% slow by itself is practically a 3 second snare. It's the strongest slow in the game after Nasus Wither. Frozen Mallet simply does nothing for her. I mean heck, if you really want an item that gives more slow+hp even Rylais is better since it'll power your skills (they scale off AP) as well. I actually checked out the 2k elo guide Vaporized refers to and even in that guide he's not really "advocating for Frozen Mallet." He put it as a luxury item you can get when you have absolutely nothing else to get.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 05 2012 04:01 GMT
#906
On August 05 2012 12:49 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 12:48 Simberto wrote:
On August 05 2012 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
Also, why the fuck can't you buy runes with RP? They're expensive as shit.


Probably because that would feel too much like buying power. If you really want, you can buy an IP boost.

Correct. Riot policy is that money never buys actual power. You can get IP Boosts, but you have to work for that power. Even the "complete content unlock" referral reward doesn't unlock runes.


what a joke
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 05 2012 04:08 GMT
#907
On August 05 2012 09:10 101toss wrote:
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On August 05 2012 09:09 Cloud9157 wrote:
No doubt that jungle cow gets to build boots5. He doesn't have to care about CCs with his ult and just needs to run around ganking everyone. Run through ward quickly>better chance of gank. Also, Sion as well. Same thing, except he farms everything: creeps, jungle camps, and enemy champions.

No idea on supports. I always thought that you would want all your skills on less of a cd, so ionian's would be ideal.

Mobos are ok on taric/crank since it gives you more room to catch people

build boots 5 on every support, gotta run fast for deep warding
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 05 2012 04:11 GMT
#908
I don't know why no one has runes while I have the core runes, hybrids, vamp, and other random shit, even 46% crit damage

Maybe it's because I only have 20 champions and 3 rune pages all bought with ip
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
August 05 2012 04:15 GMT
#909
On August 05 2012 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
Also, why the fuck can't you buy runes with RP? They're expensive as shit.


More like why can't I change my runes during matchmaking. So dumb when I get tired of just supporting/going mid, change my runes to ADC/top and then watch as I call top/ADC and two ppl instant lock an ADC/Top. -_-. Fuck choking up 6300 IP for another rune page.

I guess I could jungle with ghetto rune setups; no MS runes.
Forever Young
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 05 2012 04:21 GMT
#910
On August 05 2012 13:15 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
Also, why the fuck can't you buy runes with RP? They're expensive as shit.


More like why can't I change my runes during matchmaking. So dumb when I get tired of just supporting/going mid, change my runes to ADC/top and then watch as I call top/ADC and two ppl instant lock an ADC/Top. -_-. Fuck choking up 6300 IP for another rune page.

I guess I could jungle with ghetto rune setups; no MS runes.

If you could change your runes it'd eliminate the need for spending money for rune pages.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 05 2012 04:32 GMT
#911
Why would you buy runes with RP LOL what a waste of money when you could be buying skins
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
August 05 2012 05:26 GMT
#912
On August 05 2012 13:32 MooMooMugi wrote:
Why would you buy runes with RP LOL what a waste of money when you could be buying skins

runes are a lot more useful than skins. Unless you're being sarcastic, it's pretty hard to tell.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11804 Posts
August 05 2012 05:31 GMT
#913
A lot of people just treat IP as basically an experience system, and then spend money only on stuff they can't get through IP, which is skins. Thus, the perceived value of skins is much higher then that of stuff you can get through IP
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 05 2012 06:00 GMT
#914
Ya there is no reason to spend RP on champions unless you really want to play him or hes super freaking OP(like Darius), IP is free, use it on free stuff like runes/champs d00d
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 05 2012 06:02 GMT
#915
On August 05 2012 15:00 MooMooMugi wrote:
Ya there is no reason to spend RP on champions unless you really want to play him or hes super freaking OP(like Darius), IP is free, use it on free stuff like runes/champs d00d

I hate when you get an impulse urge to buy a champion but don't wanna grind IP. had that happen a few times
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 05 2012 06:03 GMT
#916
I'm proud of never buying a hero or runepage with RP. All my runepages are with ip lol... but I do play a lot so I don't exactly need ip.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 05 2012 06:08 GMT
#917
how exactly does anyone bot lane? i can't get the feel of it no matter what i do. i can't judge the damage output of 2 champions, and champs like graves (infinite burst, sustained damage, cc, lol balanced champ) and taric (infinite burst, cc, heal, lol balanced champ) are always fucking my day. i don't want to forego necessary bans like ali/naut but i also don't want to cave in and play graves. what do? how exactly am i supposed to get better at bot lane? i don't know how to play AD when i have a leona or blitz on my team - when they're on the other team i get bursted 100% of the time, when they're on my team i feel like any aggro action by them is going to result in my own death. is it about going balls deep? i'm determined to become a more well-rounded player even if it means another -400 elo to learn >:C
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 05 2012 06:13 GMT
#918
Get better at bot lane ~ play Graves
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 06:15:54
August 05 2012 06:14 GMT
#919
On August 05 2012 15:08 gtrsrs wrote:
how exactly does anyone bot lane? i can't get the feel of it no matter what i do. i can't judge the damage output of 2 champions, and champs like graves (infinite burst, sustained damage, cc, lol balanced champ) and taric (infinite burst, cc, heal, lol balanced champ) are always fucking my day. i don't want to forego necessary bans like ali/naut but i also don't want to cave in and play graves. what do? how exactly am i supposed to get better at bot lane? i don't know how to play AD when i have a leona or blitz on my team - when they're on the other team i get bursted 100% of the time, when they're on my team i feel like any aggro action by them is going to result in my own death. is it about going balls deep? i'm determined to become a more well-rounded player even if it means another -400 elo to learn >:C


Try and duo with a friend that you won't rage at and who won't rage at you. Makes learning bot lane a lot easier. I really hated when AD carry started going botlane as I had the same issues of not being able to judge fights as well as I could in a solo lane but it's really just something that grows on you with time.

Ezreal is a really safe lane. So is Corki. Graves is bullshit and kind of hard to win trades with because of his passive (although W max Ez can beat him if you have a strong support). If you're against Graves lane I usually just play safe, farm, and only fight if Graves or his support makes a mistake.

I would not suggest playing Graves to learn bot lane though. As he'll get nerfed eventually.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
August 05 2012 06:54 GMT
#920
ill duo u (:
cool beans
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