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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On August 14 2012 00:34 TheKefka wrote: Havoc is garbage altogether,it's just that there is no better alternative for caster if you want to go 21 in offense. I'd rather have the AD, makes auto harassing slightly better and csing slightly easier/safer. Not a huge difference tho. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21689 Posts
For archmage to give you as much AP as an amp tomb you need 400 ap. Its all to low to basicly have much impact. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On August 14 2012 00:36 JackDino wrote: I'd rather have the AD, makes auto harassing slightly better and csing slightly easier/safer. Not a huge difference tho. Everyone is taking the AD mastery over mental force already. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On August 14 2012 00:34 TheKefka wrote: Havoc is garbage altogether,it's just that there is no better alternative for caster if you want to go 21 in offense. No, it's not. If you're fiddlesticks, it's like 50g/point on your level 1 ulti and on drain. If you're Irelia, it's like 15 g/point. It depends on what your base numbers are. Also, there's nothing better to get, as havoc is MUCH better than 1AP/point. Executioner isn't terribly good at trading, because in lane neither side should be chilling about with health that low, but it provides a nice bit of extra damage for last hitting (like 3-5 at level 1, increasing as game goes on), and becomes more relevant for allins and other committed fights. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On August 14 2012 00:44 sylverfyre wrote: No, it's not. If you're fiddlesticks, it's like 50g/point on your level 1 ulti and on drain. If you're Irelia, it's like 15 g/point. It depends on what your base numbers are. Also, there's nothing better to get, as havoc is MUCH better than 1AP/point. No one is taking 1ap/point since the new masteries came out lol. Havoc is garbage and the ap masteries are even worse.I don't even think executioner is worth going 21 points into offense anymore. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
Also worth noting is the cost of spell vamp and life steal have gone up since the time of that posting - all the spell vamp items and nearly all lifesteal items (certainly the more base/common ones - vamp scep, wriggles, BT) have been lowered in what they give, meaning the mastery has a higher gold/point value. | ||
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AwayFromLife
United States441 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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AwayFromLife
United States441 Posts
On August 14 2012 01:01 Slayer91 wrote: I don't think Diana jungle is viable except as a standard tank jungle but other champs probably do it better. I'd consider her viable (though underwhelming) if there already was a tank or two on your team (Ali bot, Galio mid, Malph top or something) and your team was lacking high damage. However, in those cases, I suppose I'd play Riven/Jax/Olaf/Shaco jungle or something. I don't play mid, my RP T.T And happy bday | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
Idk,I still think the worth of offense masterys for Aps shouldn't be judged by how good they are at lvl 18.100G worth of stats at lvl 18 IS pretty shitty.At this point I think 21 in utility should be the way to go. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On August 14 2012 01:08 AwayFromLife wrote: I'd consider her viable (though underwhelming) if there already was a tank or two on your team (Ali bot, Galio mid, Malph top or something) and your team was lacking high damage. However, in those cases, I suppose I'd play Riven/Jax/Olaf/Shaco jungle or something. I don't play mid, my RP T.T And happy bday dont trust him and play what you enjoy | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
Don't trust this guy and listen to Slayer's advice. Tho you should def play what you enjoy, if only more people would understand that it's a game, and playing a champ you like makes you play better. | ||
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
Edit: More than warwick I guess := | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On August 14 2012 01:26 xes wrote: I've been running 9/0/21 on my mids. Having flash up ~40s faster than the enemy mid is just too good. There's also pretty nifty stuff you could do with the gold mastery. Buy extra pots if you want to play really aggressive,skip one pot and buy a ward and ward your entrance to the jungle or ward for dat fb top lane. On August 14 2012 01:32 Arevall wrote: What could be suitable junglers for low level summoners? <lvl10 Edit: More than warwick I guess := Trundle I guess,I don't think you can actually die in the new jungle with trundle,he also doesn't use flash normally which you won't get until you are 12. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On August 14 2012 01:32 Arevall wrote: What could be suitable junglers for low level summoners? <lvl10 Edit: More than warwick I guess := Nunu and Trundle I think | ||
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