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[Patch 1.0.0.144: Diana] General Discussion - Page 137

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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
August 11 2012 07:40 GMT
#2721
On August 11 2012 16:08 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 15:54 Lmui wrote:
On August 11 2012 15:43 IMoperator wrote:
omg diana mid does ridiculous damage and is really tanky. I think she's pretty damn powerful vs. all mid champs.


Swain smashes her face in along with a few other champions that don't mind being in melee range. Morgana is another one that doesn't care about her jumping in (pool, ulti, bind)


Well I think Morgana will have some serious problems with Diana because Morgana's damage is only so much and if Diana survives Morgana's combo Morgana is screwed.


Most AP mids with more than 500 attack range can just run AD runes and auto her when she tries to cs. There is absolutely nothing she can do.. unlike Kassadin, Diana does not have a targetted harass and she does not have innate mana sustain. If you run mana regen runes/masteries, you forego armor and will be punished for it. If you run armor, your mana pool will be really sad and you can't put out much harass.

Also your harass is AOE. So if you harass you can easily push your lane. Diana has no escapes and she is easily ganked.



Morgana does have trouble 100-0ing diana in the few games I played since by virtue of being in melee range, diana's shield procs twice and negates most of the pool damage. Unless you land a bind on diana, what's usually happpens is diana Q's you, jumps to you, you pop spell shield, diana's moonfall is negated and then you pool+ulti+bind+ignite. If Diana's shield doesn't refresh, you kill her, if it does refresh, you both walk away from each other at low health. Neither should be able to kill the other without securing some sort of advantage or screwing up.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 11 2012 07:41 GMT
#2722
On August 11 2012 16:33 Lmui wrote:
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On August 11 2012 16:09 TheYango wrote:
On August 11 2012 16:01 Alzadar wrote:
I don't like the talk of the AD ratio on Judgement changing with levels (1:02 in the video). That is literally inconsistent with every other scaling ability in the entire game, for no apparent reason.

Trundle's Q still has a scaling AD ratio, and Pantheon's Q used to before they nerfed it.


I believe that the scaling with levels thing refers to skill levels, not Champion level, it's similar to Jayce's W where it deals base AD*a percentage depending on the level of the skill.

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Their % AD ratios scaled.
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Evilmonkey.
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1628 Posts
August 11 2012 07:42 GMT
#2723
The really cool part about those two skins is that they were community inspired.
WWBD- What would Boxer do?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 07:46:26
August 11 2012 07:45 GMT
#2724
This is the deviantArt gallery of the guy that made the original concept art for pool party ziggs and astro nautilus
http://mattcomgo.deviantart.com/gallery/
Imo ziggs now looks better,nautilus sucks in comparison.
I don't know if he got hired by riot but I can't wait for the legendary Brorelia.
Judge trundle is also amazing hahah.
Cackle™
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
August 11 2012 07:50 GMT
#2725
On August 11 2012 16:25 HazMat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 11 2012 16:14 Requizen wrote:
Bahaha I forgot how fucking stupid Darius was. Now that I've played a bunch of Diana and gotten used to that "all in balls to the wall" fighting style, I picked our favorite Axe-man up for a jungle game and absolutely rolled face with him. Holy shit, he got out of control faster than you could imagine.

Lack of mobility sucks, but who cares when tunnel vision and NOXIAN GUILLOTINE.


Also, friends list notes is obviously best part of the patch, who cares about the rest.

Edit: I TAKE IT ALL BACK BEST PART OF THE PATCH IS ASTRONAUTILUS


But pool party Ziggs...


mad scientist and major are both better : <
TranslatorBaa!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 11 2012 07:51 GMT
#2726
I like the direction riot took for pool party ziggs, the more dorky look rather than the cool look ziggs.
liftlift > tsm
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
August 11 2012 08:07 GMT
#2727
Soraka has two skins FFS I WANT MORE SORAKA SKINS
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 11 2012 08:10 GMT
#2728
On August 11 2012 17:07 schmutttt wrote:
Soraka has two skins FFS I WANT MORE SORAKA SKINS

They need to make a My Little Pony Soraka skin, or a MLP hecarim skin. I'd buy them instantly just for the lulz.
liftlift > tsm
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 11 2012 08:12 GMT
#2729
On August 11 2012 17:10 wei2coolman wrote:
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On August 11 2012 17:07 schmutttt wrote:
Soraka has two skins FFS I WANT MORE SORAKA SKINS

They need to make a My Little Pony Soraka skin, or a MLP hecarim skin. I'd buy them instantly just for the lulz.

Yes they should release those skins then burn those cancerous skins. I don't want to play this game with the MLP fanbase, they're one of the worst.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 11 2012 08:14 GMT
#2730
On August 11 2012 17:12 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 17:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 11 2012 17:07 schmutttt wrote:
Soraka has two skins FFS I WANT MORE SORAKA SKINS

They need to make a My Little Pony Soraka skin, or a MLP hecarim skin. I'd buy them instantly just for the lulz.

Yes they should release those skins then burn those cancerous skins. I don't want to play this game with the MLP fanbase, they're one of the worst.

I agree, i hate bronies, but mlp skins would be pretty freaking hilarious.
liftlift > tsm
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 11 2012 08:57 GMT
#2731
On August 11 2012 17:07 schmutttt wrote:
Soraka has two skins FFS I WANT MORE SORAKA SKINS


iirc, they are working on a Soraka re-work after the Katarina one is released. They're supposed to release a new skin with her re-work too but we'll see.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 11 2012 09:16 GMT
#2732
Why would soraka need a rework, she's fine as it is.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 11 2012 09:21 GMT
#2733
On August 11 2012 18:16 JackDino wrote:
Why would soraka need a rework, she's fine as it is.


I meant the model, although they could be re-working her abilities.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11960 Posts
August 11 2012 09:26 GMT
#2734
On August 11 2012 14:48 Shiragaku wrote:
Why do people threaten everyone by ruining the game if they do not get what they want when they can simply dodge? The only real experience I have had with people with such an attitude were people middle school and below.


It's pretty simple. You get punished when you leave a game. You don't get punished when you make someone else leave a game. You can't even get reported unless noone leaves. Making someone else leave apparently works often enough to deal with the few games they then actually have to play their ruined game for 20 minutes for the benefit to get to play what they want to.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 09:49:41
August 11 2012 09:47 GMT
#2735
I don't like how they literraly change the way a champion is played because he's not competitive enough.
You're gonna have non competitive picks in a 100 champions pool, that's inevitable. No need to be obsessed about it. ;;
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
August 11 2012 10:02 GMT
#2736
On August 11 2012 18:47 Noocta wrote:
I don't like how they literraly change the way a champion is played because he's not competitive enough.
You're gonna have non competitive picks in a 100 champions pool, that's inevitable. No need to be obsessed about it. ;;


We had a decidedly and intentionally uncompetitive champ in Evelynn. No one liked that. Keep in mind that there is a BIG difference between "not to the taste/playstyle/strategy of worldclass teams" and "this champ is bad and you should feel bad".
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 11 2012 10:08 GMT
#2737
On August 11 2012 19:02 Unentschieden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 18:47 Noocta wrote:
I don't like how they literraly change the way a champion is played because he's not competitive enough.
You're gonna have non competitive picks in a 100 champions pool, that's inevitable. No need to be obsessed about it. ;;


We had a decidedly and intentionally uncompetitive champ in Evelynn. No one liked that. Keep in mind that there is a BIG difference between "not to the taste/playstyle/strategy of worldclass teams" and "this champ is bad and you should feel bad".

Pretty sure he was talking about kat, who atleast saw play in soloqueue and won games.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 10:11:31
August 11 2012 10:11 GMT
#2738
On August 11 2012 19:02 Unentschieden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 18:47 Noocta wrote:
I don't like how they literraly change the way a champion is played because he's not competitive enough.
You're gonna have non competitive picks in a 100 champions pool, that's inevitable. No need to be obsessed about it. ;;


We had a decidedly and intentionally uncompetitive champ in Evelynn. No one liked that. Keep in mind that there is a BIG difference between "not to the taste/playstyle/strategy of worldclass teams" and "this champ is bad and you should feel bad".


Evelyn and Twitch are understandable.
Katarina, meeeh.. I guess it's okay, it's minor stuff. But I don't understand why changing Garen so much.
He's a fun champion, nothing wong about him not being a competitive pick in the end.

Might just be me.. But I'm okay with some champions being average. Not everything has to be played at the highest level.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 11 2012 10:19 GMT
#2739
Sona so much fun and strong. Tried her out for the first time today. And I really liked her. I think I will buy her.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
August 11 2012 10:21 GMT
#2740
On August 11 2012 19:11 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 19:02 Unentschieden wrote:
On August 11 2012 18:47 Noocta wrote:
I don't like how they literraly change the way a champion is played because he's not competitive enough.
You're gonna have non competitive picks in a 100 champions pool, that's inevitable. No need to be obsessed about it. ;;


We had a decidedly and intentionally uncompetitive champ in Evelynn. No one liked that. Keep in mind that there is a BIG difference between "not to the taste/playstyle/strategy of worldclass teams" and "this champ is bad and you should feel bad".


Evelyn and Twitch are understandable.
Katarina, meeeh.. I guess it's okay, it's minor stuff. But I don't understand why changing Garen so much.
He's a fun champion, nothing wong about him not being a competitive pick in the end.

Might just be me.. But I'm okay with some champions being average. Not everything has to be played at the highest level.


Kat wasn´t average, she was binary. She either dominated hard or her ult got interrupted and she did nothing at all. Garen is similar in that he is earlyloaded which for balance reasons had to make him turn into a liability late.
No player EVER enjoys being a liability even if it´s theoretically justified. Remember that Leblanc got buffs to he lategame despite being the godqueen of the earlygame already.
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