When she gets in range to use it the poke is no longer free. It costs health.
On August 11 2012 15:10 HazMat wrote: Wait so they want Garen to do more dmg lategame but they change his W so that he is forced to build armor and mr to gain benefit from it. I don't understand.
Garen builds armor and mr anyways. This just means he gets more benefit from whatever armor and mr he does build.
On August 11 2012 15:10 HazMat wrote: Wait so they want Garen to do more dmg lategame but they change his W so that he is forced to build armor and mr to gain benefit from it. I don't understand.
I think the rationale was that his spin scales off of total AD now instead of bonus so he doesn't have to build as much AD in order to hurt lategame.
Looking at the numbers, he actually doesn't need all that much for his W to be more 100% effective than the old W. Assuming you're running armor seals, you only need about 55-60 armor to have his W be more effective than the old W. The same goes for MR, 45-50 MR and it's as good as the old W. Get a GA + aegis aura and you're already there. Build stuff like hexdrinker, randuins etc and you're tankier than the old garen.
On August 11 2012 12:43 ticklishmusic wrote: given the fact that i seem to end up with teams with 2, 3 frozen hearts, i think sunfire should be built more.
extreme example: i build one as tanky support mid ryze builds one jungler builds one top builds one
wat?
Yeah item callouts really aren't doing their jobs. Instead people should be able to say "I'm building aegis. Don't get it!" from the shop menu.
item callouts are obnoxious, nobody reads them and all they do is spam my chatbox so i can't find timers. Holy shit do i seriously need to be notified every time someone buys a ward. It's making me think of just moving the chat box off screen, there's no point to it anymore.
On August 11 2012 15:43 IMoperator wrote: omg diana mid does ridiculous damage and is really tanky. I think she's pretty damn powerful vs. all mid champs.
Diana gets shitted by almost any AP mids with more than 500 attack range. Her early laning phase is really, REALLY sad.
I love how they openly admitted that Zyra was completely over the top broken.
Normally it's the "we felt that XXX was doing a little too much damage, so we toned it down a little to make XXXX more in line with other champions" line.
This time it's "We f'd up, she's was broken and too strong"
On August 11 2012 15:43 IMoperator wrote: omg diana mid does ridiculous damage and is really tanky. I think she's pretty damn powerful vs. all mid champs.
Her only damage skill pre-6 is a hard to land skillshot, and her damage is roughly in line with akali's burst. Both of them can 100-0 you if you misposition or get caught out as a squishy, and rightfully so. They wouldn't be assassins if they couldn't do that.
On August 11 2012 15:43 IMoperator wrote: omg diana mid does ridiculous damage and is really tanky. I think she's pretty damn powerful vs. all mid champs.
Swain smashes her face in along with a few other champions that don't mind being in melee range. Morgana is another one that doesn't care about her jumping in (pool, ulti, bind)
On August 11 2012 15:43 IMoperator wrote: omg diana mid does ridiculous damage and is really tanky. I think she's pretty damn powerful vs. all mid champs.
Diana gets shitted by almost any AP mids with more than 500 attack range. Her early laning phase is really, REALLY sad.
Really? I think she's pretty damn good, crescent does a lot of damage early on and once she gets her ult it's like a tanky akali lol.
I don't like the talk of the AD ratio on Judgement changing with levels (1:02 in the video). That is literally inconsistent with every other scaling ability in the entire game, for no apparent reason.
I'm not convinced Garen needed changing at all. At a certain point I wish Riot would let the players try to develop new things sometimes rather than being spoon-fed. Garen's late-game damage was fine, he was easily able to 100-0 a squishy if he landed Q while still being very tanky (Courage makes him much less susceptible to Last Whisper than most bruisers).
On August 11 2012 15:43 IMoperator wrote: omg diana mid does ridiculous damage and is really tanky. I think she's pretty damn powerful vs. all mid champs.
Swain smashes her face in along with a few other champions that don't mind being in melee range. Morgana is another one that doesn't care about her jumping in (pool, ulti, bind)
Well I think Morgana will have some serious problems with Diana because Morgana's damage is only so much and if Diana survives Morgana's combo Morgana is screwed.
Most AP mids with more than 500 attack range can just run AD runes and auto her when she tries to cs. There is absolutely nothing she can do.. unlike Kassadin, Diana does not have a targetted harass and she does not have innate mana sustain. If you run mana regen runes/masteries, you forego armor and will be punished for it. If you run armor, your mana pool will be really sad and you can't put out much harass.
Also your harass is AOE. So if you harass you can easily push your lane. Diana has no escapes and she is easily ganked.
On August 11 2012 16:01 Alzadar wrote: I don't like the talk of the AD ratio on Judgement changing with levels (1:02 in the video). That is literally inconsistent with every other scaling ability in the entire game, for no apparent reason.
Trundle's Q still has a scaling AD ratio, and Pantheon's Q used to before they nerfed it.
Bahaha I forgot how fucking stupid Darius was. Now that I've played a bunch of Diana and gotten used to that "all in balls to the wall" fighting style, I picked our favorite Axe-man up for a jungle game and absolutely rolled face with him. Holy shit, he got out of control faster than you could imagine.
Lack of mobility sucks, but who cares when tunnel vision and NOXIAN GUILLOTINE.
Also, friends list notes is obviously best part of the patch, who cares about the rest.
Edit: I TAKE IT ALL BACK BEST PART OF THE PATCH IS ASTRONAUTILUS
On August 11 2012 15:47 UniversalSnip wrote: item callouts are obnoxious, nobody reads them and all they do is spam my chatbox so i can't find timers. Holy shit do i seriously need to be notified every time someone buys a ward. It's making me think of just moving the chat box off screen, there's no point to it anymore.
I do this everytime (Only as support, though) . I just do it so they can notice that im leaving lane, so if they die don't blame it on me.
On August 11 2012 16:14 Requizen wrote: Bahaha I forgot how fucking stupid Darius was. Now that I've played a bunch of Diana and gotten used to that "all in balls to the wall" fighting style, I picked our favorite Axe-man up for a jungle game and absolutely rolled face with him. Holy shit, he got out of control faster than you could imagine.
Lack of mobility sucks, but who cares when tunnel vision and NOXIAN GUILLOTINE.
Also, friends list notes is obviously best part of the patch, who cares about the rest.
Edit: I TAKE IT ALL BACK BEST PART OF THE PATCH IS ASTRONAUTILUS
On August 11 2012 16:14 Requizen wrote: Bahaha I forgot how fucking stupid Darius was. Now that I've played a bunch of Diana and gotten used to that "all in balls to the wall" fighting style, I picked our favorite Axe-man up for a jungle game and absolutely rolled face with him. Holy shit, he got out of control faster than you could imagine.
Lack of mobility sucks, but who cares when tunnel vision and NOXIAN GUILLOTINE.
Also, friends list notes is obviously best part of the patch, who cares about the rest.
Edit: I TAKE IT ALL BACK BEST PART OF THE PATCH IS ASTRONAUTILUS
On August 11 2012 16:01 Alzadar wrote: I don't like the talk of the AD ratio on Judgement changing with levels (1:02 in the video). That is literally inconsistent with every other scaling ability in the entire game, for no apparent reason.
Trundle's Q still has a scaling AD ratio, and Pantheon's Q used to before they nerfed it.
I believe that the scaling with levels thing refers to skill levels, not Champion level, it's similar to Jayce's W where it deals base AD*a percentage depending on the level of the skill.
On August 11 2012 16:14 Requizen wrote: Bahaha I forgot how fucking stupid Darius was. Now that I've played a bunch of Diana and gotten used to that "all in balls to the wall" fighting style, I picked our favorite Axe-man up for a jungle game and absolutely rolled face with him. Holy shit, he got out of control faster than you could imagine.
Lack of mobility sucks, but who cares when tunnel vision and NOXIAN GUILLOTINE.
Also, friends list notes is obviously best part of the patch, who cares about the rest.
Edit: I TAKE IT ALL BACK BEST PART OF THE PATCH IS ASTRONAUTILUS
Ok...this is definitely the first skin ever I'm buying as soon as it comes out... Btw that Astro nautilus actually looks disappointingly worse than the original concept art.
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