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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 11 2012 01:40 GMT
#2661
I'm of the opinion that for tanks(aka support junglers mostly), sunfire is a fine item. I've tried sunfire cape rush on malph/naut after GP10's if I get a few ganks off and it's actually pretty awesome. For around 10-15 minutes after finishing chain+giants belt you are relatively invincible, and if you can stick to somebody, they're going to take a hefty chunk of damage.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 11 2012 01:41 GMT
#2662
Also, question: does randuins stack with wardens (in any manner)? Of so, would it be good to buy both, given how powerful that passive is?
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 11 2012 01:48 GMT
#2663
On August 11 2012 10:41 101toss wrote:
Also, question: does randuins stack with wardens (in any manner)? Of so, would it be good to buy both, given how powerful that passive is?


The tooltip is the same as Sheen/Triforce. So it is highly unlikely. Additionally, according to the Wiki the passive only operates on basic attack speed (not bonus) so by the time you can afford both its effectiveness will be significantly reduced, even if it did work.
Freeeeeeedom
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 11 2012 01:55 GMT
#2664
man i hate no brain mids who tax my jungle when im already behind, ive always found it much better for the jungler to be somewhat useful and a less farmed mid rather than a useless jungler and more farmed mid.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 11 2012 02:00 GMT
#2665
Clearly you do not know how mordekaiser works
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
August 11 2012 02:09 GMT
#2666
Worst part about Sunfire is just wanting the other armor items so damn much more most of the time.

It's not a bad item.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Vingle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada86 Posts
August 11 2012 02:12 GMT
#2667
If I read how Rengar's ferocity charged Q works right, you can basically zone the other guy just by walking around with 4 points of ferocity and going into the bush every once in a while.

Sounds legit.
Protoss is a very funny race.
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
August 11 2012 02:12 GMT
#2668
On August 11 2012 10:48 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 10:41 101toss wrote:
Also, question: does randuins stack with wardens (in any manner)? Of so, would it be good to buy both, given how powerful that passive is?


The tooltip is the same as Sheen/Triforce. So it is highly unlikely. Additionally, according to the Wiki the passive only operates on basic attack speed (not bonus) so by the time you can afford both its effectiveness will be significantly reduced, even if it did work.


You're reading incorrectly. The procs reduces the total AS, but can only activated by basic attacks.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 11 2012 02:35 GMT
#2669
On August 11 2012 11:12 NpG)Explosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 10:48 cLutZ wrote:
On August 11 2012 10:41 101toss wrote:
Also, question: does randuins stack with wardens (in any manner)? Of so, would it be good to buy both, given how powerful that passive is?


The tooltip is the same as Sheen/Triforce. So it is highly unlikely. Additionally, according to the Wiki the passive only operates on basic attack speed (not bonus) so by the time you can afford both its effectiveness will be significantly reduced, even if it did work.


You're reading incorrectly. The procs reduces the total AS, but can only activated by basic attacks.

No, he's reading just fine:

The passive effect on Randuin's Omen (shared with Warden's Mail), is the only attack speed slow in the game which subtracts from the affected target's attack speed bonus. In other words it means, that passive reduction works only on base attack speed of the target, so more attack speed one has, less passive effect reduces. All other sources (as Randuin's active part) reduce total attack speed. (Conflicting with attack speed page in the reductions section. Needs testing or some kind of comfirmation)
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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
August 11 2012 02:46 GMT
#2670
So, I was playing some drunk LoL... and i was listening to random shit on youtube, and 'make a man out of you' came on. Inexplicably, I went and bought Xin, although I doubt i'll ever play him unless the song comes on again. This ever happen to anyone else?
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 03:10:25
August 11 2012 03:09 GMT
#2671
Oh god gayest game ever. I was playing maokai, got off good ganks etc, but zilean kayle, is the most retarded teamcomp to deal with ever when they have a jax and ezreal. You can't focus anyone since that focus is going to get invulned and then revived if they continue to get focused after the invuln.

soloQ, it's so stupid to deal with since everyone focuses the target who's gonig to get revived or invuln'd
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 11 2012 03:15 GMT
#2672
On August 11 2012 12:09 Lmui wrote:
Oh god gayest game ever. I was playing maokai, got off good ganks etc, but zilean kayle, is the most retarded teamcomp to deal with ever when they have a jax and ezreal. You can't focus anyone since that focus is going to get invulned and then revived if they continue to get focused after the invuln.

soloQ, it's so stupid to deal with since everyone focuses the target who's gonig to get revived or invuln'd

I hear exhaust is pretty good
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
August 11 2012 03:22 GMT
#2673
On August 11 2012 12:15 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 12:09 Lmui wrote:
Oh god gayest game ever. I was playing maokai, got off good ganks etc, but zilean kayle, is the most retarded teamcomp to deal with ever when they have a jax and ezreal. You can't focus anyone since that focus is going to get invulned and then revived if they continue to get focused after the invuln.

soloQ, it's so stupid to deal with since everyone focuses the target who's gonig to get revived or invuln'd

I hear exhaust is pretty good


We had one exhaust on the support, 3 ignites on top/mid/ad. They had three exhausts, two ignites. Our AD carry literally couldn't do anything compared to theirs ==;
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 11 2012 03:29 GMT
#2674
On August 11 2012 12:15 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 12:09 Lmui wrote:
Oh god gayest game ever. I was playing maokai, got off good ganks etc, but zilean kayle, is the most retarded teamcomp to deal with ever when they have a jax and ezreal. You can't focus anyone since that focus is going to get invulned and then revived if they continue to get focused after the invuln.

soloQ, it's so stupid to deal with since everyone focuses the target who's gonig to get revived or invuln'd

I hear exhaust is pretty good


Nothing can overcome the power of Derping, which was obviously happening in droves.
Freeeeeeedom
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 03:44:32
August 11 2012 03:43 GMT
#2675
given the fact that i seem to end up with teams with 2, 3 frozen hearts, i think sunfire should be built more.

extreme example:
i build one as tanky support
mid ryze builds one
jungler builds one
top builds one

wat?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 03:53:14
August 11 2012 03:52 GMT
#2676
On August 11 2012 12:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
given the fact that i seem to end up with teams with 2, 3 frozen hearts, i think sunfire should be built more.

extreme example:
i build one as tanky support
mid ryze builds one
jungler builds one
top builds one

wat?

Yeah item callouts really aren't doing their jobs. Instead people should be able to say "I'm building aegis. Don't get it!" from the shop menu.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 11 2012 03:57 GMT
#2677
On August 11 2012 12:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 12:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
given the fact that i seem to end up with teams with 2, 3 frozen hearts, i think sunfire should be built more.

extreme example:
i build one as tanky support
mid ryze builds one
jungler builds one
top builds one

wat?

Yeah item callouts really aren't doing their jobs. Instead people should be able to say "I'm building aegis. Don't get it!" from the shop menu.

But double aegis makes both holders so tanky
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 11 2012 03:58 GMT
#2678
On August 11 2012 12:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 12:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
given the fact that i seem to end up with teams with 2, 3 frozen hearts, i think sunfire should be built more.

extreme example:
i build one as tanky support
mid ryze builds one
jungler builds one
top builds one

wat?

Yeah item callouts really aren't doing their jobs. Instead people should be able to say "I'm building aegis. Don't get it!" from the shop menu.


its just that small problem with glacial shroud being really fucking good (cdr, ton of mana, ton of armor) and the parts of frozen heart really cheap and wanting to be the guy who can say I HAVE FROZEN HEART, I SHUT DOWN AD CARRY WE WIN FIGHTS EZ NAO.

its just too fuckin' good of an item. riot trolled everyone so hard by doing that.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 11 2012 04:01 GMT
#2679
not to be that guy, but i've been saying double aegis is overpowered for a couple months
:flex:
the amount of MR that 1 aegis gives you is obscene, doubling it makes you basically invincible to everything but triple AD comps. i feel so beast when i get it on skarner/diana/mundo/shyvana as a first item and my support follows up with one. tower dive and recklessly initiate ahoy!
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 11 2012 04:08 GMT
#2680
ive never thought about it but double aegis does seem good especially when the front line of most comps is just two champions, i definitely shouldve bought it in the go4lol instead of going warmogs or randuins.
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