EPT[Patch 1.0.0.144: Diana] General Discussion - Page 107
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:03 Dandel Ion wrote: His heal is neglible. Don't play Taric for his heal. Play him for pro-frags in lane, without the risk Leona brings with her. Also, he has an aura, and I immediately suck the dick of everything that even has a remote resemblance of an aura. Maybe that's my problem with him. I always feel like I'm protecting the AD rather than enabling kills when I play Taric, so I'm maxing the heal first. That seems to be the wrong way. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:05 AsmodeusXI wrote: Maybe that's my problem with him. I always feel like I'm protecting the AD rather than enabling kills when I play Taric, so I'm maxing the heal first. That seems to be the wrong way. max aura first, then heal. Taric crushes bot lane with his stun+aura | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:05 AsmodeusXI wrote: Maybe that's my problem with him. I always feel like I'm protecting the AD rather than enabling kills when I play Taric, so I'm maxing the heal first. That seems to be the wrong way. Max W. It's a great aura for when you trade in lane and they changed it so your team still gets it when you activate W (only you lose the buff). Your R+W combo is sick burst at level 6 too, esp if your AD is like Corki or Ez. | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On August 10 2012 00:59 Shiv. wrote: His stun is point and click (so flashing it won't do shit), his armor aura is convenient for trades, he clicks really well with the FotM AD carries (Corki, Graves, Ez), he's averagely tanky. I play him myself because I still think that the sentiment of win lane win game is true, especially if you manage to snowball your AD. Also, yeah NEO, his ult is okay, but then again, I'd prefer Janna/Sona/Leona ult over his any day of the week. Probably Sorakas too. So yeah, I think in comparison he IS awful in teamfights. Well I don't disagree that Janna, sona, and leona ults are better. Just Taric is a little more fail safe because even if you personally miss it doesn't mess up a teamfight because your team stills gets the buff as opposed to missing with Sona/Leona or knocking away low hp enemies with Janna ult. Hate it when newer Jannas knock enemies to safety. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On August 10 2012 00:07 Shiv. wrote: Your point being? The discussion originally was about refresh-on-kill Ults. My point is that refresh-on-kill is only one of many features that can make a champ snowbally. On August 10 2012 01:06 NEOtheONE wrote: Well I don't disagree that Janna, sona, and leona ults are better. Just Taric is a little more fail safe because even if you personally miss it doesn't mess up a teamfight because your team stills gets the buff as opposed to missing with Sona/Leona or knocking away low hp enemies with Janna ult. Hate it when newer Jannas knock enemies to safety. Or worse, knock a scary bruiser onto your face when you're the AD carry. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
Seeing people talk about diana i felt like sharing this. Also regarding taric i'm starting to like boots -> hog -> tabi -> aegis -> work towards frozen heart. Makes him a super strong force. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:07 sylverfyre wrote: My point is that refresh-on-kill is only one of many features that can make a champ snowbally. Refresh on kill is bad because it makes you want to just hang around and not do anything until there's a moment to ks instead of actually killing something important now even if you waste the ult. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:06 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Max W. It's a great aura for when you trade in lane and they changed it so your team still gets it when you activate W (only you lose the buff). Your R+W combo is sick burst at level 6 too, esp if your AD is like Corki or Ez. Okay, that definitely makes more sense. And I didn't know that about the W armor aura. On August 10 2012 01:04 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: "ELow". I like that word hehe. It's cute. Taric is a very easy support to play. I think that's also something that should be stated. Like, if you get someone random playing Taric, for the most part they probably know what they need to do and can at least play him. With someone like Janna or Leona, there's a lot of things they can do wrong that will screw the lane over. With Taric, it's all point and click. No skillshots, no difficult decision you need to think heavily about, and no need to memorise what your burst is every few levels. Oh, and he has a heal (if minimal). I try to be cute to hide my bads. 60% of the time it works every time. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:05 AsmodeusXI wrote: Maybe that's my problem with him. I always feel like I'm protecting the AD rather than enabling kills when I play Taric, so I'm maxing the heal first. That seems to be the wrong way. Yes it is. imo, you help your AD more by leveling the armor aura, makes trades really easy, esp. if you can debuff them. That's why he's so baller with Corki, you give them negative armor in no time. I guess there are situations where you need to level heal, but those situations are usually "you got oupicked in lane", in which case you were screwed anyways. | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
I went back about 30 pages looking for anyone to talk to about the intro music.  Should have stayed at the intro though, 999 lag spikes OP. | ||
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bmn
886 Posts
On August 09 2012 23:50 Shikyo wrote: I agree, by spamming Shield Riven can stand up to Yorick's harrass very well and after she has all her skills she can trade profitably. After lvl 6 she also should win the allin against Yorick if she plays it smart. Trundle might also work but I'm not so sure about that. His passive does help with sustain though and his bite does reduce the damage of everything yorick does so it does make sense, never tried that though. I'll pick Nunu all day every day against Yorick. You do OK early on (you can farm); once you get your chalice you can harrass him, once you get CDR you can bully him out of lane. Get and max Q first, eat red ghoul whenever you can. The last few Yorick's I've played ended up complaining about Nunu's laning being broken :-) (Blood boil + snow blast means he can't chase you even with q + w, consuming his e means that you heal while prenventing him from healing, so you outsustain him both in mana and in health. But you need a few levels + CDR before you can eat his red ghouls fast enough.) | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:09 AsmodeusXI wrote: Okay, that definitely makes more sense. And I didn't know that about the W armor aura. I try to be cute to hide my bads. 60% of the time it works every time. Yup. Best thing about the new Taric. (Ok, not so new. His change was like 3 months ago or something haha. You know what I mean.) And always R before W. R is magic damage so the W debuff won't increase the damage. But the extra AP from R will make W hurt even more. It's not a huge difference, but every little bit counts. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:08 Sponkz wrote: Also regarding taric i'm starting to like boots -> hog -> tabi -> aegis -> work towards frozen heart. Makes him a super strong force. If your team needs to wait on the support to finish FH at like 40 minutes instead of having Jungle/Top build it, something has gone very wrong. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:06 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Max W. It's a great aura for when you trade in lane and they changed it so your team still gets it when you activate W (only you lose the buff). Your R+W combo is sick burst at level 6 too, esp if your AD is like Corki or Ez. Or tristana / graves! Even ashe is terrifying at 6 with Taric - stun for so long and you just keep wailing on them with no armor. Remember though, when you're going balls to wall burst with Taric, R first, THEN W. the large +AP for your W is no joke. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:15 Cloud9157 wrote: I'm curious on what marks people run on Taric and supports in general. Been experimenting with AD, and they seem to work out well. MPen on Taric. AD is ok on ranged supports, but Taric doesn't get to right-click people as often because he is Melee. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:15 TheYango wrote: If your team needs to wait on the support to finish FH at like 40 minutes instead of having Jungle/Top build it, something has gone very wrong. Yeah i usually don't get to finish FH because oracles become more important in longer games, i just like the cdr and mana it provides you since you aren't gonna be getting reverie (i don't like reverie on supports anymore). | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:15 TheYango wrote: If your team needs to wait on the support to finish FH at like 40 minutes instead of having Jungle/Top build it, something has gone very wrong. I think it's more to make himself tankier even if his team already has one. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:15 Cloud9157 wrote: I'm curious on what marks people run on Taric and supports in general. Been experimenting with AD, and they seem to work out well. For Taric, magic pen is better than AD for his mostly magic damage burst. And since you are melee, you won't auto attack too much in lane. I don't have a dedicated support page, so I mostly play with one of my defensive ap pages. I think the most used mark for supports is flat armor, but you should get an answer from someone who mains support  . | ||
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