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[Patch 1.0.0.143: MidJuly-Zyra] General Discussion - Page 72

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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 25 2012 20:58 GMT
#1421
My first impression of playing against a Zyra: OP
That damage is madness.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 25 2012 21:00 GMT
#1422
Only thing OP is that plants stick around after death. No 10 HP kill and escapes
It's your boy Guzma!
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 25 2012 21:00 GMT
#1423
On July 26 2012 05:49 bmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 05:29 Zhiroo wrote:
All the Zyras I've seen today sucked balls. And I destroyed one as Orianna. Until today all the new champs I've seen on release they'd always do well. Not saying she's week or something just an observation.


I've only seen a handful, but they were all doing well. And when I played her in ranked games, instead of the usual "OMG plz don't play <new champ> gg" I had people on my team start talking about how OP Zyra supposedly is. (This is low ELO, mind you.)


Low Elo people always think a newly released champ is op lol
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 25 2012 21:03 GMT
#1424
575 aa range is quite good.
Just saw Guardman's Bob 100-0 a Cassiopea with WW ERQ... and he missed the seeds with his spells (actually he used another Q to grow them and they finished off an almost dead Cass, so had he hit them he'd have 100-0). At level 14 each, and he only had 2 dr, NLR, amp. tome.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 25 2012 21:04 GMT
#1425
On July 25 2012 20:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 20:43 h3r1n6 wrote:
On July 25 2012 19:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
RoA is awful too on Cass idk where all these builds are coming from lol.

Manage your mana don't spam everything everytime it's off cooldown only use spells to threaten kills/zone off cs, in a teamfight you should have blue anyways.



I wouldn't say it's awful, it's unnecessary though.



On July 25 2012 20:30 Bladeorade wrote:
Cass does not need a mana pool. Her passive and blue is more than enough. No one maxes e on her either. At least afaik


Maxing E gives you more killing power in a straight up fight, but as with Ahri (who would want to max W) you just have to max Q in most situations. Gives you stronger poke and pushing power, people won't let you run up to them and spam E and you can't farm well with maxed E. People always make it sound like the skillorder is set for every game.

if you max E first you will be oom all the time guaranteed


Maxing Q first -> Even more expensive to maintain stacks. With Q at max rank, it costs 75 mana. So at level 9, a Cassiopeia CANNOT MAINTAIN HER STACKS WITHOUT BLUE BUFF.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
July 25 2012 21:11 GMT
#1426
On July 26 2012 06:04 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 20:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 25 2012 20:43 h3r1n6 wrote:
On July 25 2012 19:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
RoA is awful too on Cass idk where all these builds are coming from lol.

Manage your mana don't spam everything everytime it's off cooldown only use spells to threaten kills/zone off cs, in a teamfight you should have blue anyways.



I wouldn't say it's awful, it's unnecessary though.



On July 25 2012 20:30 Bladeorade wrote:
Cass does not need a mana pool. Her passive and blue is more than enough. No one maxes e on her either. At least afaik


Maxing E gives you more killing power in a straight up fight, but as with Ahri (who would want to max W) you just have to max Q in most situations. Gives you stronger poke and pushing power, people won't let you run up to them and spam E and you can't farm well with maxed E. People always make it sound like the skillorder is set for every game.

if you max E first you will be oom all the time guaranteed


Maxing Q first -> Even more expensive to maintain stacks. With Q at max rank, it costs 75 mana. So at level 9, a Cassiopeia CANNOT MAINTAIN HER STACKS WITHOUT BLUE BUFF.

I have only ever heard of people maxing Q or once they start to max Q being amazed. I have no mana issues on Cass whatsoever, I go 2 dorans -> revolver -> ryalis . Using Q to poke to keep your passive up is NP for me after level 7. Before that I usually just chill out and only use my spells to zone and deny CS unless I am facing a shit early lane AP or a melee AP. Then I go for kills and once i land a Q I chase with E's.
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
July 25 2012 21:11 GMT
#1427
On July 25 2012 23:20 Requizen wrote:
So people playing Jayce: TF or BT as your core when being bruiser? I've been playing both quite a bit, and I'm still not sure which I prefer. He's already a utility toolbox with sprints, poke, wall of Shurelya, knockback, slow, etc.; so TF feels really good rolled up with that, extra slow, burst, and MS. However, he has little sustain and rather good AD scaling, so BT works out well with the damage. Both feel very strong, imo.

Also on Jungle Jayce, I did DBlade/Wriggle/Mercs -> Hex/Glacial -> Maw/FH/GA a couple times, which worked out spectacularly well all things considered, thought that might have just been because our team was so far ahead anyway.


I think boots3-->dorans-->dorans-->BT is core on jayce, but I'm only 1500 so take it with a grain of salt. I also play him as a split pusher and just ignore my team. 4-0 in ranked, 4.25 towers per game average.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
July 25 2012 21:30 GMT
#1428
On July 26 2012 06:03 Alaric wrote:
575 aa range is quite good.
Just saw Guardman's Bob 100-0 a Cassiopea with WW ERQ... and he missed the seeds with his spells (actually he used another Q to grow them and they finished off an almost dead Cass, so had he hit them he'd have 100-0). At level 14 each, and he only had 2 dr, NLR, amp. tome.


Well, any AP carry can kill any other AP carry with their full combo, fed or not. -_-

"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 25 2012 21:34 GMT
#1429
Darius has got to be the most faceroll, fun heroes in the game. I really hope that ulti nerf Morello was talking about isn't too huge because I picked up this hero just yesterday and I'm having more fun than ever. I'm evil.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 25 2012 21:37 GMT
#1430
NintendudeX's new name is NintenDDosX, pretty clever but I hardly doubt someone was constantly DDos'ing a teenager like him everyday
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 25 2012 21:38 GMT
#1431
On July 26 2012 06:37 MooMooMugi wrote:
NintendudeX's new name is NintenDDosX, pretty clever but I hardly doubt someone was constantly DDos'ing a teenager like him everyday

Why do you doubt that?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
July 25 2012 21:41 GMT
#1432
On July 26 2012 06:30 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 06:03 Alaric wrote:
575 aa range is quite good.
Just saw Guardman's Bob 100-0 a Cassiopea with WW ERQ... and he missed the seeds with his spells (actually he used another Q to grow them and they finished off an almost dead Cass, so had he hit them he'd have 100-0). At level 14 each, and he only had 2 dr, NLR, amp. tome.


Well, any AP carry can kill any other AP carry with their full combo, fed or not. -_-



Burst AP carries, sure, but I don't think Zyra was expected to be one of those, given her kit. At least I didn't expect her burst to be that strong. [And Swain, Ryze, Morde, and Galio (at least) are typically built rather resiliently, though that's a different point.]

A full combo from Cass, Ryze, or Karthus doesn't do all that much damage; it's multiple iterations of their low-cooldown spells that really put the hurt on you.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
July 25 2012 21:43 GMT
#1433
On July 26 2012 05:52 Shadowpostin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 05:05 Bladeorade wrote:
So my first impression of Zyra.... She isn't as fun to play as she looks. She feels... I dunno clunky? It doesn't feel smooth to me.

Really?I didn't play her myself but she looked like she can chain together spells pretty fluidly.I was thinking the whole time,man I wish ziggs cast animations were so fast.

Idk I tried to WWQ and stuff but it doesnt feel very nice. Maybe my opinion will change as I play her more. Also 2 second delay on her ult knock up is redonk. I'd rather have a smaller AoE and 1 second delay. Also I think her ult animation looks like crap but perhaps thats just me. Does not make me think of plants attacking. Looks more like a crappy bush someone flattened and the snap effect looks lackluster. They could have done so much better visually
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 25 2012 21:45 GMT
#1434
On July 26 2012 06:38 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 06:37 MooMooMugi wrote:
NintendudeX's new name is NintenDDosX, pretty clever but I hardly doubt someone was constantly DDos'ing a teenager like him everyday

Why do you doubt that?

Cause I had a suspicion he was just using DDOS as an excuse because a lot of the other popular streamers were
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 25 2012 21:57 GMT
#1435
On July 26 2012 06:45 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 06:38 HazMat wrote:
On July 26 2012 06:37 MooMooMugi wrote:
NintendudeX's new name is NintenDDosX, pretty clever but I hardly doubt someone was constantly DDos'ing a teenager like him everyday

Why do you doubt that?

Cause I had a suspicion he was just using DDOS as an excuse because a lot of the other popular streamers were

So he was just pulling his internet so he could lose tournament games and eventually get kicked off TD? What a really stupid accusation.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 25 2012 22:04 GMT
#1436
On July 26 2012 06:57 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 06:45 MooMooMugi wrote:
On July 26 2012 06:38 HazMat wrote:
On July 26 2012 06:37 MooMooMugi wrote:
NintendudeX's new name is NintenDDosX, pretty clever but I hardly doubt someone was constantly DDos'ing a teenager like him everyday

Why do you doubt that?

Cause I had a suspicion he was just using DDOS as an excuse because a lot of the other popular streamers were

So he was just pulling his internet so he could lose tournament games and eventually get kicked off TD? What a really stupid accusation.


I know one time that he left a tournament game it was his parents taking his computer away because of his grades. Maybe mugi is referring to instances like that, not intentionally shutting off his internet.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 25 2012 22:06 GMT
#1437
lol, his parents are dumb as hell if they actually did that
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 25 2012 22:16 GMT
#1438
his parents aren't dumb for taking away privileges when his grades slip lol
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 25 2012 22:20 GMT
#1439
On July 26 2012 07:16 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
his parents aren't dumb for taking away privileges when his grades slip lol

Dyrus actually said something surprisingly insightful for him lately on that (maybe troll?) Reddit thread where some guy wanted to drop out of HS for LoL.

He talked about how he knows he MIGHT be able to survive on his e-sports popularity once LoL dies off, getting a job casting or doing something else in the field, but having something to fall back on education-wise is absolutely necessary.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21717 Posts
July 25 2012 22:24 GMT
#1440
For every Pro player who "makes" it there are 100 who fall along the wayside. Unless your already on a well earning pro team I would never quit school for it.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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