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E: I think it was mentioned here sometimes, does anyone know why certain streams start lagging like mad at the beginning of a game? For the first few minutes, whatever the resolution the sound is kinda fine but the image is a slideshow.
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
E: I think it was mentioned here sometimes, does anyone know why certain streams start lagging like mad at the beginning of a game? For the first few minutes, whatever the resolution the sound is kinda fine but the image is a slideshow. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 14 2012 03:48 Arisen wrote: So, this is more in general than relating to the jayce patch, but its probably too small to warrent a thread of its own. When do you want to push your lane? I read in guides all the time that you want to either push or let the wave push against certain champions and I just dont know why. I always try to freeze the lane right in front of my tower and last hit because it's easier to avoid jungle ganks, and I never know when I SHOULD be pushing. So in general; What are the reasons for pushing a wave earlier than when you're planning to take a tower When do you make the decision to go for the tower? You push lane when you wouldn't be farming otherwise, in my opinion. You're going to miss the next wave most likely, so push and fuck up the enemy's farming. Some examples: 1) You're playing mid and want to go get blue. 2) You want to leave lane to gank another (top -> mid, mid -> either, top -> teleport) 3) You have to/want to go back and buy/heal. 4) You want to invade the enemy jungle 5) You're doing dragon. Push the lane when you're not there, the tower will steal kills from your opponent or just make it harder on them. And if they ignore it to follow you, your minions help push down the turret. You should really only push the turret yourself when you're safe. Don't do it solo when there's anyone mia, push when you get a successful gank or win a trade. You also generally don't want to push down super early. Once you push down a tower, it becomes much more difficult for you to farm your minions, so you want to push when you are more or less done with the "farm farm farm" phase and are going to focus on roaming or taking objectives. Edit: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/new-skins-scorched-earth-xerath-infernal-alistar Firey skins available for Cow and Xerath. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On July 14 2012 03:49 Requizen wrote: While that's nice and all, I don't think the minion AI was what was holding him back from being top pick. It'll help, but exactly how much remains to be seen. it's a massive buff. Voidling dancing is OP. I'm gonna have to bust out malz again :D | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On July 14 2012 03:33 Requizen wrote: It's still in, and it's kind of insane from what I hear. You do AoE damage based on % health and get shield (I think 300 at max rank) per person hit, so 1500 health shield at max rank if you hit all 5. New Eve Ult in testing was hilar imba. It should be toned down a bit, but you'll find it very "ultimate feeling". Interesting counterplay involved with her now as well. Can work top and jungle, although jungle is a more obvious role. For those worrying about new Xin, he's possibly the scariest of the newest remakes. Was tested multiple times, and with 2k+ Elo input too. Initially wrecked face a lot. Should not be a one-man army any more. Hopefully. Malzahar was changed because sometimes things happened and they were frustrating. Like hiding in a bush and then your minion wants to go jump out and ruin it all. Or your E ending and your minion decides to run back to you instead of hitting the enemy champion who is the only enemy in front of you. I believe now Malz minion priority is Hide in Bush > E > target Malz has auto'd in last 5 sec > valid enemy champion > return to Malz. Btw, minion dance OP. Re PBE: Accounts are free, you start off with 50k IP and RP. Get an additional amount of IP and RP each fortnight. Think I still have my initial PBE Account which should have a million IP and RP each. You don't get rune, rune pages or champions unlocked initially, but you should have enough free IP/RP to just buy and test whatever you feel like. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 14 2012 04:05 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: New Eve Ult in testing was hilar imba. It should be toned down a bit, but you'll find it very "ultimate feeling". Interesting counterplay involved with her now as well. Can work top and jungle, although jungle is a more obvious role. For those worrying about new Xin, he's possibly the scariest of the newest remakes. Was tested multiple times, and with 2k+ Elo input too. Initially wrecked face a lot. Should not be a one-man army any more. Hopefully. Re PBE: Accounts are free, you start off with 50k IP and RP. Get an additional amount of IP and RP each fortnight. Think I still have my initial PBE Account which should have a million IP and RP each. You don't get rune, rune pages or champions unlocked initially, but you should have enough free IP/RP to just buy and test whatever you feel like. If I may ask, what is so strong about Xin now? Aside from the knockback (which is really nice, don't get me wrong) and the arpen passive (also nice), it doesn't look like his kit has changed a whole lot. Old passive moved to W, no baseline AS steroid, CDR moved to Q. Am I missing something that buffed him so much? | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On July 14 2012 04:04 mordek wrote: So many awesome skins coming out... I may actually spend money on this game and that says something How to compete with steam summer sale, release a ton of cool skins.... and don't bother with the sale part. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On July 14 2012 03:48 Arisen wrote: So, this is more in general than relating to the jayce patch, but its probably too small to warrent a thread of its own. When do you want to push your lane? I read in guides all the time that you want to either push or let the wave push against certain champions and I just dont know why. I always try to freeze the lane right in front of my tower and last hit because it's easier to avoid jungle ganks, and I never know when I SHOULD be pushing. So in general; What are the reasons for pushing a wave earlier than when you're planning to take a tower When do you make the decision to go for the tower? The advice I always give is shove, shove, shove. Shove until their jungler or mid prove that they can stop you or punish you. Wards to keep track of jungle activity and a good map awareness/sense can keep you alive. This I feel especially holds true at lower elos where some people will struggle with last hitting effectively under a turret. Once you've got either a level or item advantage, then start freezing the lane and trying to force good engages. I should note, that this is more about mid/lower elo. Once you get to higher ranks people can handle it w/o losing out on many cs and junglers' awareness will punish you more frequently. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
Voidling background dancers OP. Expect hot fix. W cast time is pretty much instant; Malz doesn't even turn if you cast it behind yourself. Voidling proirity is now something like: Nether Grasp target>Malefic Visions target>Champion it was last attacking>Whatever you're attacking>Champions attacking you>Towers>Everything else. Voidlings stick much more strongly; they don't derp the moment E runs out, and they will continue to attack the target they're on until they run out of leash range or you slap an E/R on something else. Significantly less idle time, and they wake up the moment you attack something. Only saw one indecisive "Which one do I attack, I GUESS NEITHER" moment. They try to hide in bushes with you. Overall, a few derp moments here and there, but a looooot more consistent. | ||
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
On July 14 2012 04:28 ManyCookies wrote: Alright, from one game with Malz: Voidling background dancing OP. Expect hot fix. W cast time is pretty much instant; Malz doesn't even turn if you cast it behind yourself. Voidling proirity is now something like: Nether Grasp target>Malefic Visions target>Champion it was last attacking>Whatever you're attacking>Champions attacking you>Towers>Everything else. Voidlings stick much more strongly; they don't derp the moment E runs out, and they will continue to attack the target they're on until they run out of leash range or you slap an E/R on something else. Significantly less idle time, and they wake up the moment you attack something. Only saw one indecisive "Which one do I attack, I GUESS NEITHER" moment. They try to hide in bushes with you. Overall, a few derp moments here and there, but a looooot more consistent. HOLY SHIT i cant wait seriously. this just made my day almost lol. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On July 14 2012 04:09 Requizen wrote: If I may ask, what is so strong about Xin now? Aside from the knockback (which is really nice, don't get me wrong) and the arpen passive (also nice), it doesn't look like his kit has changed a whole lot. Old passive moved to W, no baseline AS steroid, CDR moved to Q. Am I missing something that buffed him so much? Cooldowns. New Q has a 9-5s cooldown, versus 10 flat on old Q. New W has a 16-11s second cooldown, versus 24-16s. New E has a 13-9s cooldown, versus 16-12s. Basically they took all the cooldown reduction Xin got from attacking super fast and baked it into his abilities. This is a fundamentally good change because it means Xin no longer has to worry about both CDR and attack speed, but can focus on the former. It also makes it a lot easier for Riot to balance because they don't have to worry about Xin Zhao being unable to afford the attack speed to abuse the crap out of people. That said, I am having the most hellish time trying to break my old E->Q->W instinct. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
THE NEW XERATH SKIN THAT Q LOOKS SO FUCKING DEADLY MUST BUY "League of Legends is SO FREE" | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Riot OP | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On July 14 2012 03:07 TheYango wrote: I've said this for ages, but the only reason support gp10 feels necessary is because people don't take enough gold from creeps on supports. In the scheme of your team's gold, the gp10 from HoG is pretty much inconsequential, and you can easily make up the gold difference by taking a few creeps here and there from lanes/jungle. The gold gen doesn't outweigh the fact that a) it has shit immediate cost-efficiency, and b) in the hands of a support, it's effectively a dead-end item because supports by and large won't build Randuin's. Honestly I see no reason why a support would buy HoG anymore. Get Kindlegem, have Shurelya's in time for teamfights in the 15-20 minute range, rather than needing to wait till 20-25 mins. the problem is if you take more than like one creep a minute, your ad carry almost always immediately starts bitching about it. it also becomes an excuse for ad carries who can't last hit to say "gg, my fucking support keeps taking my cs". god that gets on my nerves. most of the supports i play are ap, so i typically start philo -> kage -> boots -> hog then rush aegis. hog just seems like lowest priority b/c health isn't that big of a deal. i also tend to build shurleya's pretty late b/c lulu already has a speed steroid and a slow. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 14 2012 03:48 Arisen wrote: So, this is more in general than relating to the jayce patch, but its probably too small to warrent a thread of its own. When do you want to push your lane? I read in guides all the time that you want to either push or let the wave push against certain champions and I just dont know why. I always try to freeze the lane right in front of my tower and last hit because it's easier to avoid jungle ganks, and I never know when I SHOULD be pushing. So in general; What are the reasons for pushing a wave earlier than when you're planning to take a tower When do you make the decision to go for the tower? Always push your lane and base when you get a kill or force a back. wave will usually die to the tower and start pushing back in your favor(denying them alot of xp) | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 14 2012 04:40 VirgilSC2 wrote: OH MY GOD THE NEW XERATH SKIN THAT Q LOOKS SO FUCKING DEADLY MUST BUY "League of Legends is SO FREE" I dunno, maybe I'm biased because I have the other two Xerath skins already, but I'm on the fence about the new one. The animations are sweet as a FUCK, but the sounds...I dunno they just sound weird and dull. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
<_< Stealth remake and Zyra OP. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Nerf on Philo was 100% needed, probably still not enough. | ||
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SoulSever
Canada779 Posts
I'm only a 1400 player but I feel like my knowledge of the game is pretty deep but because someone like Haz, Req, Craton, Seuss or others might tell me I know nothing, I keep it all to myself | ||
Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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