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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 13 2012 17:10 GMT
#1681
On July 14 2012 02:08 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 01:56 Requizen wrote:
Akali gets 5 more mana back on her Marks, not bad.


You can never have enough mana regen on Akali.

More seriously I don't really understand what they're trying accomplish with these buffs. Akali is not going to use E for much outside of clearing because she can't use it while moving. Against the highly popular slippery champions like Ahri you simply can't afford to do that except when they've made a critical mistake.

Fuck, energy, whatever.

The E change was last patch, this is just a flat 5 more energy from using the Q proc. The E buff was nice, but like you said unnecessary.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 17:17:14
July 13 2012 17:16 GMT
#1682
On July 14 2012 02:00 Offhand wrote:
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On July 14 2012 01:48 Perplex wrote:
http://summonermatch.com/patchnotes.php

Not sure what the intentions with the kassadin changes are. Sad to see malphite getting nerfed too. Also urgot acid hunter doing 50 damage at level 1 instead of 10.. there's no way that can go live. On the bright side gp5 was nerfed but I don't see that changing anything


If true this patch has a significant lack of Fire Alistar.

Also how many small nerfs do they have to throw at Kass/Morg before they finally stop being autobanned?


Morgana.... ugh. I stopped banning her a long time ago. I don't like this, only because less Morgana ban -> more Ahri ban

This Malphite nerf, I don't know.... seems too reactionary to his recent surge. Sometimes it's better to wait a while and see if the player base can figure out how to counter him.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 13 2012 17:28 GMT
#1683
On July 14 2012 02:00 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 01:48 Perplex wrote:
http://summonermatch.com/patchnotes.php

Not sure what the intentions with the kassadin changes are. Sad to see malphite getting nerfed too. Also urgot acid hunter doing 50 damage at level 1 instead of 10.. there's no way that can go live. On the bright side gp5 was nerfed but I don't see that changing anything


If true this patch has a significant lack of Fire Alistar.

Also how many small nerfs do they have to throw at Kass/Morg before they finally stop being autobanned?

Never enough. People haven't learnt to think since all the nerfs that made they kinda easy to deal with, why would it change now?

I feel like 23s is way too bullshit of a cd at level 1. It could already be baited first if you wanted to gank her (BUT HEY THAT REQUIRES THINKING AHEAD, PROB TOO HARD RIGHT?), now show yourself, force a BS, go back to the fog of war, she won't be able to touch the whole next creep wave for fear of you still waiting in that bush.
She's been permabanned for so long now, barely got to play her between her buffs and achieving that status, when they'll finally stop I'll be shit at her from lack of practice.

Also GP not plain and annoying enough I guess.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 17:31:07
July 13 2012 17:30 GMT
#1684
On July 14 2012 02:10 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 02:08 Seuss wrote:
On July 14 2012 01:56 Requizen wrote:
Akali gets 5 more mana back on her Marks, not bad.


You can never have enough mana regen on Akali.

More seriously I don't really understand what they're trying accomplish with these buffs. Akali is not going to use E for much outside of clearing because she can't use it while moving. Against the highly popular slippery champions like Ahri you simply can't afford to do that except when they've made a critical mistake.

Fuck, energy, whatever.

The E change was last patch, this is just a flat 5 more energy from using the Q proc. The E buff was nice, but like you said unnecessary.


The E buff was actually really big because it's not nearly as big a commitment to proc a mark with E in lane as it is to autoattack, plus you can actually use the spell now. I'm surprised they still feel she has energy issues. The only change I would make would be to increase her missile speed a bit and maybe make her attack animation a little faster, she seems pretty good to me now. the buffs for her have been really subtle but you can definitely feel them after you spend some time playing her.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 13 2012 17:32 GMT
#1685
On July 14 2012 02:28 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 02:00 Offhand wrote:
On July 14 2012 01:48 Perplex wrote:
http://summonermatch.com/patchnotes.php

Not sure what the intentions with the kassadin changes are. Sad to see malphite getting nerfed too. Also urgot acid hunter doing 50 damage at level 1 instead of 10.. there's no way that can go live. On the bright side gp5 was nerfed but I don't see that changing anything


If true this patch has a significant lack of Fire Alistar.

Also how many small nerfs do they have to throw at Kass/Morg before they finally stop being autobanned?

Never enough. People haven't learnt to think since all the nerfs that made they kinda easy to deal with, why would it change now?

I feel like 23s is way too bullshit of a cd at level 1. It could already be baited first if you wanted to gank her (BUT HEY THAT REQUIRES THINKING AHEAD, PROB TOO HARD RIGHT?), now show yourself, force a BS, go back to the fog of war, she won't be able to touch the whole next creep wave for fear of you still waiting in that bush.
She's been permabanned for so long now, barely got to play her between her buffs and achieving that status, when they'll finally stop I'll be shit at her from lack of practice.

Also GP not plain and annoying enough I guess.


Wait...are you really complaining about Morgana? The champion needs to have a downside. Currently, she doesn't have one. Good spell vamp, impossible to gank, low mana costs, great team fighting. I don't ban her anymore, but she's a pretty bullshit champion.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 17:42:34
July 13 2012 17:41 GMT
#1686
I'm complaining about the way she's getting nerfed over and over since a string of buffs that weren't even close to cover what followed (she got buffs on her high mana costs, minimal MS, hard to use ult and horrendous aa animation, basically, then had her passive, CDs, base damage, scaling all hit, I probably missed some), and the fact that even though she's a very safe champion, she isn't devoid of counterplay but the majority is always keenier to whine about stuff and wait for a relief to be spoon-fed to them rather than think about what they can actually do themselves against it.
Granted, it is not Riot's role to educate people on the matter. But I still find it grating.

Edit: and it's not even a case of "she's fine, don't nerf my champs", since as a result to that "I can't do it easily, therefore it must be broken" mentality she's permabanned and I haven't been able to touch her in ages.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 13 2012 17:44 GMT
#1687
lol. Froggen on Korean solo queue chat

"froggen is hax"
"this guy is a real sonofabitch"
"it's not human"

20min surrender with froggen at 14/1/4. His team's Corki goes:

"it was a good game.... wait, what did I even do this game?"
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 13 2012 17:44 GMT
#1688
Higher cooldown on Blackshield is worth the longer cast range IMO
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 13 2012 17:47 GMT
#1689
I don't even understand your complaints, Morg is buffed late game, she can still do all of her team fight bullshit, she just is gankable now.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 13 2012 17:50 GMT
#1690
On July 14 2012 02:44 koreasilver wrote:
lol. Froggen on Korean solo queue chat

"froggen is hax"
"this guy is a real sonofabitch"
"it's not human"

20min surrender with froggen at 14/1/4. His team's Corki goes:

"it was a good game.... wait, what did I even do this game?"


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epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
July 13 2012 17:50 GMT
#1691
Hog nerf? What?
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 13 2012 17:51 GMT
#1692
Kassadin changes are so dumb. Almost completely pointless.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 13 2012 17:52 GMT
#1693
On July 14 2012 02:50 epoc wrote:
Hog nerf? What?

Yeah that one makes absolutely zero sense to me, lol.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 13 2012 17:54 GMT
#1694
On July 14 2012 02:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 02:50 epoc wrote:
Hog nerf? What?

Yeah that one makes absolutely zero sense to me, lol.

Where do you see that one? Only notes I see are just champs.
It's your boy Guzma!
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 13 2012 17:54 GMT
#1695
lol froggen real scary ap
GANDHISAUCE
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 13 2012 17:55 GMT
#1696
xin zhao changes with passive/ult are gonna be awesome
pair xin zhao with jarvan - jump in and challenge one guy, clear the rest out, then dunk him for a 2 on 1 ARENA BATTLE
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 13 2012 17:55 GMT
#1697
On July 14 2012 02:54 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 02:52 TheYango wrote:
On July 14 2012 02:50 epoc wrote:
Hog nerf? What?

Yeah that one makes absolutely zero sense to me, lol.

Where do you see that one? Only notes I see are just champs.

http://summonermatch.com/patchnotes.php

Scroll down to the bottom, between "Orianna" and "Skins".
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 13 2012 18:01 GMT
#1698
GP5 stats were a little too good for being basically free after 20mins~ so the nerfs to philo + HoG made them more in line, I guess
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 13 2012 18:01 GMT
#1699
malphite got bitch slapped lol
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 13 2012 18:02 GMT
#1700
I think they felt that gp10 items were giving too much stats, along with gp10. 50 hp is a huge reduction, nerfing an item by 20%, is a pretty big leap.... I wish they would've given it more thought, and just changed it to 230? or 225?
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