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D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
July 13 2012 14:13 GMT
#1641
Anyone have any opinions on a aura support Zyra? Her seeds aren't visible until someone steps on them which will reveal them, you can then turn that seed into a turret to get a 30% slow and only reward 5 gold, so they can be used as wards. I'm not completely sure how much vision they give, but its says they last 30 seconds and they're on a 17 second cd. She gets a short snare and slows along with bush vision.

I'll be trying it regardless but, I just want to get people opinions on the matter. :o
wot?
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 14:21:38
July 13 2012 14:15 GMT
#1642
On July 13 2012 21:26 Gorsameth wrote:
except for the bit where shen moves out of range of orianna and the balls returns.

All about style yo!


On July 13 2012 21:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
For those of you who might be skeptical about Zyra - have no worries. I feel like this champ was made for me.

Love Heimer but he doesn't quite work? Here, have this sexy plant version.

Tried her and her range kind of bothers me... so does putting up the plants. Just a personal problem I have with her. She does a lot of damage though lol

On July 13 2012 23:13 D u o wrote:
Anyone have any opinions on a aura support Zyra? Her seeds aren't visible until someone steps on them which will reveal them, you can then turn that seed into a turret to get a 30% slow and only reward 5 gold, so they can be used as wards. I'm not completely sure how much vision they give, but its says they last 30 seconds and they're on a 17 second cd. She gets a short snare and slows along with bush vision.

I'll be trying it regardless but, I just want to get people opinions on the matter. :o

The seeds are visible, her turrets only last 10 seconds. The seeds give I think teemo range vision.


On July 13 2012 23:16 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 23:15 wussleeQ wrote:
On July 13 2012 21:26 Gorsameth wrote:
except for the bit where shen moves out of range of orianna and the balls returns.

All about style yo!


On July 13 2012 21:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
For those of you who might be skeptical about Zyra - have no worries. I feel like this champ was made for me.

Love Heimer but he doesn't quite work? Here, have this sexy plant version.

Tried her and her range kind of bothers me... so does putting up the plants. Just a personal problem I have with her. She does a lot of damage though lol


What is her aa range?


575. Just her skills kind of feel short to me. I could honestly play her better as an ad carry than an ap carry but again, that's just a personal problem that I'm having. If I ever take the time to learn her though, she's probably pretty good
BW -> League -> CSGO
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 13 2012 14:16 GMT
#1643
On July 13 2012 23:15 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 21:26 Gorsameth wrote:
except for the bit where shen moves out of range of orianna and the balls returns.

All about style yo!


Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 21:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
For those of you who might be skeptical about Zyra - have no worries. I feel like this champ was made for me.

Love Heimer but he doesn't quite work? Here, have this sexy plant version.

Tried her and her range kind of bothers me... so does putting up the plants. Just a personal problem I have with her. She does a lot of damage though lol


What is her aa range?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 14:24:09
July 13 2012 14:16 GMT
#1644
Imma need to download PBE so I can master her and gain a bagillion ELO on release.

Edit: does her passive have an AP ratio? I can't find it anywhere, and from what I've seen it seems rather underwhelming =/
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D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
July 13 2012 14:20 GMT
#1645
On July 13 2012 23:15 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 23:13 D u o wrote:
Anyone have any opinions on a aura support Zyra? Her seeds aren't visible until someone steps on them which will reveal them, you can then turn that seed into a turret to get a 30% slow and only reward 5 gold, so they can be used as wards. I'm not completely sure how much vision they give, but its says they last 30 seconds and they're on a 17 second cd. She gets a short snare and slows along with bush vision.

I'll be trying it regardless but, I just want to get people opinions on the matter. :o

The seeds are visible, her turrets only last 10 seconds.


does that mean that they have a larger vision range than say~ teemo's shroom? They don't need to stay there the whole game cause they're on such a short death but I'm thinking it could cut back on the ward cost, and even if you're actively placing 2 seeds the cd on it is enough to always have a seed ammo just in case you need to put it down and make it into the slow turret.


wot?
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 14:24:16
July 13 2012 14:22 GMT
#1646
On July 13 2012 23:20 D u o wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 23:15 wussleeQ wrote:
On July 13 2012 23:13 D u o wrote:
Anyone have any opinions on a aura support Zyra? Her seeds aren't visible until someone steps on them which will reveal them, you can then turn that seed into a turret to get a 30% slow and only reward 5 gold, so they can be used as wards. I'm not completely sure how much vision they give, but its says they last 30 seconds and they're on a 17 second cd. She gets a short snare and slows along with bush vision.

I'll be trying it regardless but, I just want to get people opinions on the matter. :o

The seeds are visible, her turrets only last 10 seconds.


does that mean that they have a larger vision range than say~ teemo's shroom? They don't need to stay there the whole game cause they're on such a short death but I'm thinking it could cut back on the ward cost, and even if you're actively placing 2 seeds the cd on it is enough to always have a seed ammo just in case you need to put it down and make it into the slow turret.



They give about teemo shroom vision

Also, her after death passive is pretty dang strong. Skillshot kogmaw passive that is easy to hit. I think it does like 550-600 true damage max
BW -> League -> CSGO
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 14:26:09
July 13 2012 14:25 GMT
#1647
On July 13 2012 23:15 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 21:26 Gorsameth wrote:
except for the bit where shen moves out of range of orianna and the balls returns.

All about style yo!


Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 21:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
For those of you who might be skeptical about Zyra - have no worries. I feel like this champ was made for me.

Love Heimer but he doesn't quite work? Here, have this sexy plant version.

Tried her and her range kind of bothers me... so does putting up the plants. Just a personal problem I have with her. She does a lot of damage though lol

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 23:13 D u o wrote:
Anyone have any opinions on a aura support Zyra? Her seeds aren't visible until someone steps on them which will reveal them, you can then turn that seed into a turret to get a 30% slow and only reward 5 gold, so they can be used as wards. I'm not completely sure how much vision they give, but its says they last 30 seconds and they're on a 17 second cd. She gets a short snare and slows along with bush vision.

I'll be trying it regardless but, I just want to get people opinions on the matter. :o

The seeds are visible, her turrets only last 10 seconds. The seeds give I think teemo range vision.


Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 23:16 Sufficiency wrote:
On July 13 2012 23:15 wussleeQ wrote:
On July 13 2012 21:26 Gorsameth wrote:
except for the bit where shen moves out of range of orianna and the balls returns.

All about style yo!


On July 13 2012 21:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
For those of you who might be skeptical about Zyra - have no worries. I feel like this champ was made for me.

Love Heimer but he doesn't quite work? Here, have this sexy plant version.

Tried her and her range kind of bothers me... so does putting up the plants. Just a personal problem I have with her. She does a lot of damage though lol


What is her aa range?


575. Just her skills kind of feel short to me. I could honestly play her better as an ad carry than an ap carry but again, that's just a personal problem that I'm having. If I ever take the time to learn her though, she's probably pretty good


575 is pretty broken though. Also, looking at things, her missile is REALLY FAST.

One of the problems I see is how she will setup her combos. Will she seed after connecting an E? Or will she rely on seeds already casted before the engagement?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 14:30:45
July 13 2012 14:30 GMT
#1648
Finding out the combination of spells to use was a huge problem that I had. I couldn't adjust at all in the 40 minute game I had to play her. All I was doing was hope to snare someone with E, spam seeds and Q at the same time and just throw an ulti out >_<
BW -> League -> CSGO
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 13 2012 14:34 GMT
#1649
On July 13 2012 22:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 21:54 Alaric wrote:
So you ain't fixin' it with steel this time?


Vines can fix all your flaws... O_o

Fanboy.

On July 13 2012 22:59 Unentschieden wrote:
It´s basically 4 new champs at once. Eve most likely won´t be supreme right away since her first rank ult is really tame. That new stealth mechanic needs contact with reality.

150 HP per target shield yo, up to 750 HP at level 6 is huge. "Hey buddies, I'm 6 let's go drake, I do the baiting and you clean up while they try to go through that shit." Damage is kinda weak (15% from sub-10 champs is less than a level 4-5 AoE nuke) but the "defensive" steroid? It's a damn juggernaut switch!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 14:50:15
July 13 2012 14:49 GMT
#1650
On July 13 2012 18:03 Alaric wrote:
I want a MGS skin for Eve with the sound for whenever she gets detected with that "!".

Wish granted?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Fucking images never resize.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 13 2012 14:55 GMT
#1651
I posted it because of that picture actually.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 13 2012 14:55 GMT
#1652
I wish I had Zombie Ryze to play as a counter pick vs. Zyra
Carrilord has arrived.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 13 2012 14:56 GMT
#1653
On July 13 2012 23:55 Alaric wrote:
I posted it because of that picture actually.

Ah, misread. Yeah, I can hear the "vweeep!" sound in my head any time anything surprising happens
It's your boy Guzma!
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
July 13 2012 14:57 GMT
#1654
On July 13 2012 23:34 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 22:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 13 2012 21:54 Alaric wrote:
So you ain't fixin' it with steel this time?


Vines can fix all your flaws... O_o

Fanboy.

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 22:59 Unentschieden wrote:
It´s basically 4 new champs at once. Eve most likely won´t be supreme right away since her first rank ult is really tame. That new stealth mechanic needs contact with reality.

150 HP per target shield yo, up to 750 HP at level 6 is huge. "Hey buddies, I'm 6 let's go drake, I do the baiting and you clean up while they try to go through that shit." Damage is kinda weak (15% from sub-10 champs is less than a level 4-5 AoE nuke) but the "defensive" steroid? It's a damn juggernaut switch!


Well I was looking at it from the perspective of a jungle gank. I can´t imagine her in lane, it defeats the point of the character, even Nocturne would make more sense.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 13 2012 15:07 GMT
#1655
On July 13 2012 23:15 wussleeQ wrote:

575. Just her skills kind of feel short to me. I could honestly play her better as an ad carry than an ap carry but again, that's just a personal problem that I'm having. If I ever take the time to learn her though, she's probably pretty good


From the videos I saw, her ranges seemed pretty good though...
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 15:15:48
July 13 2012 15:15 GMT
#1656
On July 14 2012 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 23:15 wussleeQ wrote:

575. Just her skills kind of feel short to me. I could honestly play her better as an ad carry than an ap carry but again, that's just a personal problem that I'm having. If I ever take the time to learn her though, she's probably pretty good


From the videos I saw, her ranges seemed pretty good though...

I just think they feel short but it might be me just being bad and confused on what the hell to do Btw glgl hopefully you'll figure her out and can give me a few tips
BW -> League -> CSGO
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 13 2012 15:16 GMT
#1657
On July 13 2012 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Imma need to download PBE so I can master her and gain a bagillion ELO on release.

Edit: does her passive have an AP ratio? I can't find it anywhere, and from what I've seen it seems rather underwhelming =/

How does one download PBE?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 13 2012 15:18 GMT
#1658
On July 14 2012 00:16 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Imma need to download PBE so I can master her and gain a bagillion ELO on release.

Edit: does her passive have an AP ratio? I can't find it anywhere, and from what I've seen it seems rather underwhelming =/

How does one download PBE?


Quick google came up with http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload

Come on Shake, be resourceful!
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
July 13 2012 15:29 GMT
#1659
you also must have an account!
BW -> League -> CSGO
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 15:31:48
July 13 2012 15:31 GMT
#1660
On July 13 2012 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Imma need to download PBE so I can master her and gain a bagillion ELO on release.

Edit: does her passive have an AP ratio? I can't find it anywhere, and from what I've seen it seems rather underwhelming =/


I am pretty sure everyone in their right mind will either:

1. Ban Zyra
2. FP Zyra, then proceed to get utterly destroyed by LeBlanc.

Definitely not free Elo.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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