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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 13 2012 15:31 GMT
#1661
On July 14 2012 00:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 00:16 HazMat wrote:
On July 13 2012 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Imma need to download PBE so I can master her and gain a bagillion ELO on release.

Edit: does her passive have an AP ratio? I can't find it anywhere, and from what I've seen it seems rather underwhelming =/

How does one download PBE?


Quick google came up with http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload

Come on Shake, be resourceful!

Wait this shit is free? I remeber when it was only for super secret club invite kids only. My b.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 15:33:08
July 13 2012 15:32 GMT
#1662
On July 14 2012 00:31 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 00:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 14 2012 00:16 HazMat wrote:
On July 13 2012 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Imma need to download PBE so I can master her and gain a bagillion ELO on release.

Edit: does her passive have an AP ratio? I can't find it anywhere, and from what I've seen it seems rather underwhelming =/

How does one download PBE?


Quick google came up with http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload

Come on Shake, be resourceful!

Wait this shit is free? I remeber when it was only for super secret club invite kids only. My b.


I am pretty sure you also get free RP/IP, and runes cost 1 IP.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
July 13 2012 15:33 GMT
#1663
On July 14 2012 00:32 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 00:31 HazMat wrote:
On July 14 2012 00:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 14 2012 00:16 HazMat wrote:
On July 13 2012 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Imma need to download PBE so I can master her and gain a bagillion ELO on release.

Edit: does her passive have an AP ratio? I can't find it anywhere, and from what I've seen it seems rather underwhelming =/

How does one download PBE?


Quick google came up with http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload

Come on Shake, be resourceful!

Wait this shit is free? I remeber when it was only for super secret club invite kids only. My b.


I am pretty sure you also get free RP/IP, and runes cost 1 IP.

runes still cost normal. you get free rp though and ip
BW -> League -> CSGO
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 13 2012 15:35 GMT
#1664
wow Froggnivia, his team was relatively far behind but he just won a teamfighton his team and kills them one after another wall op!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 13 2012 15:36 GMT
#1665
On July 14 2012 00:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Imma need to download PBE so I can master her and gain a bagillion ELO on release.

Edit: does her passive have an AP ratio? I can't find it anywhere, and from what I've seen it seems rather underwhelming =/


I am pretty sure everyone in their right mind will either:

1. Ban Zyra
2. FP Zyra, then proceed to get utterly destroyed by LeBlanc.

Definitely not free Elo.


I don't forsee Zyra having many issues with LB... Long enough range to sit back early, and then LB useless late. Zyra also going to be incredibly difficult to gank with her E.
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Deltablazy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada580 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 15:51:36
July 13 2012 15:47 GMT
#1666
Let's talk about normals for a change, and their kill kill kill mentality.

TL;DR how to play normals?

I've reached 1850 elo a few weeks ago, so I can cs well. However after playing normals for the first time in 6 months, I was actually unable to cs, I was getting laned with ppl running the most offensive summoner sets you can go (ignite/heal) and all they cared about was getting kills, so they would start by harassing me every time their skills were up, while pushing the lane as much as possible. In the meanwhile I was trying to cs and all, with occasional harass when the opportunity was given.

By this moment I asked my jungler to gank my lane, since I was pushed to my tower, but they never did come, so I kept getting harassed and harassed under tower until the enemy jungler comes, tower dives and they get a kill. Suddenly I am unable to fight back, getting zoned and the opponent does enough dmg to cs.

The worst cases I've been getting was at the bot lane, where I would be winning in cs for 2 mins, then my support gets caught while trying to harass (no enemy jungler gank required), gives a kill and once again I am zoned from the lane due to lack of dmg, my jungler is doing god knows what, and the same story repeats.

All the pros are like "yo mon focus on them cs and you get better player", but I really don't see it being so, I feel like I am forced to give on csing to survive, but then I am your usual baddie who appears like he doesn't know how to cs.

I have no idea how to deal with this kill mentality-playstyle.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 13 2012 15:48 GMT
#1667
On July 14 2012 00:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 00:31 Sufficiency wrote:
On July 13 2012 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Imma need to download PBE so I can master her and gain a bagillion ELO on release.

Edit: does her passive have an AP ratio? I can't find it anywhere, and from what I've seen it seems rather underwhelming =/


I am pretty sure everyone in their right mind will either:

1. Ban Zyra
2. FP Zyra, then proceed to get utterly destroyed by LeBlanc.

Definitely not free Elo.


I don't forsee Zyra having many issues with LB... Long enough range to sit back early, and then LB useless late. Zyra also going to be incredibly difficult to gank with her E.


I don't see how this matchup can even remotely be bad for LB; to her, Zyra is really just a combination of Lux and Heimer; if LB jukes Zyra's E she basically gets free hits on Zyra or zone her for ~15 seconds.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 13 2012 16:07 GMT
#1668
Haha, so Froggen lost the Anivia game because the enemy team was too much stronger than his team, but the post-game Korean chat that I was able to catch before Froggen left the game was pretty funny.

From the enemy team:

"wow..."
"pros really are different"
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 13 2012 16:14 GMT
#1669
On July 14 2012 00:31 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 00:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 14 2012 00:16 HazMat wrote:
On July 13 2012 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Imma need to download PBE so I can master her and gain a bagillion ELO on release.

Edit: does her passive have an AP ratio? I can't find it anywhere, and from what I've seen it seems rather underwhelming =/

How does one download PBE?


Quick google came up with http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload

Come on Shake, be resourceful!

Wait this shit is free? I remeber when it was only for super secret club invite kids only. My b.


There is something like that still, but the PBE comes out later and is for the public.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 13 2012 16:17 GMT
#1670
Hmmmmmm With improved eve, Eve+Shen combo would be pretty freaking op'd. Shen ults in while she's still invisible...lolololol, a random shen pops out of nowhere.
liftlift > tsm
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
July 13 2012 16:19 GMT
#1671
On July 14 2012 01:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Hmmmmmm With improved eve, Eve+Shen combo would be pretty freaking op'd. Shen ults in while she's still invisible...lolololol, a random shen pops out of nowhere.

Can this be done on Teemo while he's standing still?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 16:37:18
July 13 2012 16:20 GMT
#1672
On July 14 2012 00:48 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 00:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 14 2012 00:31 Sufficiency wrote:
On July 13 2012 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Imma need to download PBE so I can master her and gain a bagillion ELO on release.

Edit: does her passive have an AP ratio? I can't find it anywhere, and from what I've seen it seems rather underwhelming =/


I am pretty sure everyone in their right mind will either:

1. Ban Zyra
2. FP Zyra, then proceed to get utterly destroyed by LeBlanc.

Definitely not free Elo.


I don't forsee Zyra having many issues with LB... Long enough range to sit back early, and then LB useless late. Zyra also going to be incredibly difficult to gank with her E.


I don't see how this matchup can even remotely be bad for LB; to her, Zyra is really just a combination of Lux and Heimer; if LB jukes Zyra's E she basically gets free hits on Zyra or zone her for ~15 seconds.


Never said it would be bad for LB. LB automatically has an advantage on all mages mid early. But I don't see Zyra having any glaring issues in particular
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Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 13 2012 16:48 GMT
#1673
http://summonermatch.com/patchnotes.php

Not sure what the intentions with the kassadin changes are. Sad to see malphite getting nerfed too. Also urgot acid hunter doing 50 damage at level 1 instead of 10.. there's no way that can go live. On the bright side gp5 was nerfed but I don't see that changing anything
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 13 2012 16:51 GMT
#1674
Gangplank

Parrrley
Half the mana cost is refunded when Parrrley deals the killing blow

YES
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 16:53:57
July 13 2012 16:52 GMT
#1675
I wonder if Zyra's WE slowing plants will have any use over the WQ ranged ones. They seem to do the same damage (based on screenshots), but a melee stationary slowing plant seems pretty easy to just get away from, unless it has really long "melee" range.


On July 14 2012 01:51 BlackPaladin wrote:
Gangplank

Parrrley
Half the mana cost is refunded when Parrrley deals the killing blow

YES

Wow, that's... huge, actually. Under-tower farming is going to be insanely easy for him now, and is actually a nice buff for jungle plank. Not enough to justify him as a jungler over a lot of other ones, but nice.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 17:02:27
July 13 2012 16:53 GMT
#1676
GP buff is actually huge, he can actually farm when behind/counterpicked now.

Ori buff is nice but I wish they'd just revert her original "buff"

Kass nerf is misguided

Black shield cd nerf is imo needed, when they nerfed her vamp, it was silly, black shield is the real problem.

Malph changes I'm not sure if this is the right change but I'm first ban/picking him currently so something needed to be done.

I mostly like the changes.


On July 14 2012 01:48 Perplex wrote:
http://summonermatch.com/patchnotes.php

Not sure what the intentions with the kassadin changes are. Sad to see malphite getting nerfed too. Also urgot acid hunter doing 50 damage at level 1 instead of 10.. there's no way that can go live. On the bright side gp5 was nerfed but I don't see that changing anything


I think you are right about Urgot, I bet they are giving it an AD ratio, perhaps to try to promote going for more damage items?
Carrilord has arrived.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 13 2012 16:56 GMT
#1677
Akali gets 5 more mana back on her Marks, not bad.

Noc's ult gets the global ult nerf, no biggie I think.

BLACK SHIELD BUFF FUCK. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ALREADY OVERPOWERED AS SHIT. Admittedly it's a buff/nerf early game, but now it's even better late game. fuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Malph nerf lolz. Riot tired of seeing him every game.

Ori buff is nice, she's already really fucking good though.
It's your boy Guzma!
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 17:02:03
July 13 2012 16:59 GMT
#1678
If Xin is actually getting a Zhao Yun skin I'll laugh my ass off. IDK why buff Ori but ok, time to learn how to play. Kass nerf is rather derp, I much prefer when there is the option to play tanky Kass.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
July 13 2012 17:00 GMT
#1679
On July 14 2012 01:48 Perplex wrote:
http://summonermatch.com/patchnotes.php

Not sure what the intentions with the kassadin changes are. Sad to see malphite getting nerfed too. Also urgot acid hunter doing 50 damage at level 1 instead of 10.. there's no way that can go live. On the bright side gp5 was nerfed but I don't see that changing anything


If true this patch has a significant lack of Fire Alistar.

Also how many small nerfs do they have to throw at Kass/Morg before they finally stop being autobanned?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 13 2012 17:08 GMT
#1680
On July 14 2012 01:56 Requizen wrote:
Akali gets 5 more mana back on her Marks, not bad.


You can never have enough mana regen on Akali.

More seriously I don't really understand what they're trying accomplish with these buffs. Akali is not going to use E for much outside of clearing because she can't use it while moving. Against the highly popular slippery champions like Ahri you simply can't afford to do that except when they've made a critical mistake.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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