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She's good solo q because of her burst. If you can get a gank, have an aggressive support (Blitz, Ali, Leona), or just play smart, you can chunk people faster than nearly any AD carry. Her late game and teamfights are kind of eh, mostly because of her short range, but if fed she can AoE through an entire team like it's nothing.
Personally, I think she's as strong as most top AD picks, but harder to play because of her short range and lack of blink. So she ends up doing just as well late, but harder to play because instead of just having a jump like Graves/Corki/Trist/Cait/Ez or the super hyper carry-ness of Trist/Kog/Vayne.
Edit: random Jayce question for those of you playing him:
Later game teamfight conundrum. I jump in and dunk a carry with QWE and autos in Hammer mode. After the full combo, they're just about dead, and I'm in the middle of the team. Do I switch to cannon to chase with range for the kill but lose my defenses, or stick in hammer to survive? Obviously goes on a case by case basis, but in general.
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On July 12 2012 13:46 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So, I'm curious, what do people think of Sivir right now as an AD Carry?
I tried her out after watching Aphromoo stream some Sivir play and I've been dunking on people recently, really hard.
She's about the same as she's been since they changed bouncing blade. Ranged AD's seem to kinda cycle around a bit, without any genuinely outclassing any of the others.
edit: can't speak for varus or jayce tho.
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I'm a fan of Varus personally, but people don't seem to play him very well imo. He's probably one of the best pokers in the game and I love the fact that he can engage.
Sivir I feel is kinda weak but it might be how I'm playing her. I'm almost always getting ahead in lane but end up losing fights while being ahead :l
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"Hey I got my work done maybe I can play some LoL tonight".
Then a wild patch appears. Geez.
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On July 12 2012 14:10 Sufficiency wrote:
"Hey I got my work done maybe I can play some LoL tonight".
Then a wild patch appears. Geez.
Yeah..........
Will this be a fast patch or one of those "down for the whole night" patches?
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On July 12 2012 13:56 Requizen wrote:
She's good solo q because of her burst. If you can get a gank, have an aggressive support (Blitz, Ali, Leona), or just play smart, you can chunk people faster than nearly any AD carry. Her late game and teamfights are kind of eh, mostly because of her short range, but if fed she can AoE through an entire team like it's nothing.
Personally, I think she's as strong as most top AD picks, but harder to play because of her short range and lack of blink. So she ends up doing just as well late, but harder to play because instead of just having a jump like Graves/Corki/Trist/Cait/Ez or the super hyper carry-ness of Trist/Kog/Vayne.
Edit: random Jayce question for those of you playing him:
Later game teamfight conundrum. I jump in and dunk a carry with QWE and autos in Hammer mode. After the full combo, they're just about dead, and I'm in the middle of the team. Do I switch to cannon to chase with range for the kill but lose my defenses, or stick in hammer to survive? Obviously goes on a case by case basis, but in general.
You save E for the killing blow, obviously, and preferably ranged EQ before switching into melee
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varus is starting to catch on
varus/taric is a retarded lane, so much burst and cc
sivir is still pretty good. with the farmy nature of bot lane, her weaknesses aren't that exploitable, and her teamfight is great. pretty much mandatory to play bandit/pax sivir though so you can get INVISIRANGS
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As far as sivir goes, I only run her on anti-taric/anti-graves/anti-urgot lane, other than those, I generally prefer running other ad carries.
her early game phase is stupid strong, her lvl 2 burst is ridiculous. in terms of burst damage output during laning phase, pre-6 is actually better than graves.
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On July 12 2012 14:13 gtrsrs wrote:
varus is starting to catch on
varus/taric is a retarded lane, so much burst and cc
sivir is still pretty good. with the farmy nature of bot lane, her weaknesses aren't that exploitable, and her teamfight is great. pretty much mandatory to play bandit/pax sivir though so you can get INVISIRANGS
i dun really like varus. he has no mobility, no escape, and unlike Kog he has nothing to make up for it other than good damage in lane.
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A large reason why Varus is so slept on is because he is not a very good solo queue champ. You really have to depend on your teammates to peel for you.
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yeah, what symbolic said
he's like kog with less range, more cc, less damage, and the best auto attack animation in the game
if you find a way to protect him in teamfights, he's a great teammate. and taric/varus at 6 is a kill 100% of the time, no matter who your jungler is. taric flash stun, varus ult, blow everything, double kill. even jungle karma could make that gank work
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Sivir I feel is hit and miss. She has 500 range which is shorter than any other AD carry besides urgot.
She's really binary; If you can hit both ticks of boomerang at level 3/5 or hit an auto>boomerang>auto>W>auto combo at level 2, you win lane. No other AD can burst that hard, that early. Mid-late game, after she gets one big item, she pretty much instaclears waves with a Q+W on the front creep. The hardest part about her is her teamfight positioning since she's shorter range than even vayne and the only thing she has going for her is the movespeed from her ultimate and her spellshield.
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Shaco quickly making his way into FOTM. jump on the train friends.
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On July 12 2012 14:37 Lmui wrote:
Sivir I feel is hit and miss. She has 500 range which is shorter than any other AD carry besides urgot.
She's really binary; If you can hit both ticks of boomerang at level 3/5 or hit an auto>boomerang>auto>W>auto combo at level 2, you win lane. No other AD can burst that hard, that early. Mid-late game, after she gets one big item, she pretty much instaclears waves with a Q+W on the front creep. The hardest part about her is her teamfight positioning since she's shorter range than even vayne and the only thing she has going for her is the movespeed from her ultimate and her spellshield.
Sivir is now probably the worst AD because Draven was released. Draven has much better damage, higher range, and higher mobility.
Only use she has is being a good pick against graves but graves isn't that scary anymore.
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Is AD TF viable to any extent? Why/why not? Just trying to understand thanks!
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On July 12 2012 14:38 HazMat wrote:
Shaco quickly making his way into FOTM. jump on the train friends.
When was Shaco not FOTM?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like he is probably one of the highest picked/banned champs in soloqueue.
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On July 12 2012 14:47 symbolic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 14:37 Lmui wrote:
Sivir I feel is hit and miss. She has 500 range which is shorter than any other AD carry besides urgot.
She's really binary; If you can hit both ticks of boomerang at level 3/5 or hit an auto>boomerang>auto>W>auto combo at level 2, you win lane. No other AD can burst that hard, that early. Mid-late game, after she gets one big item, she pretty much instaclears waves with a Q+W on the front creep. The hardest part about her is her teamfight positioning since she's shorter range than even vayne and the only thing she has going for her is the movespeed from her ultimate and her spellshield. Sivir is now probably the worst AD because Draven was released. Draven has much better damage, higher range, and higher mobility. Only use she has is being a good pick against graves but graves isn't that scary anymore.
Sivir also has a spell-shield and an incredibly strong AOE steroid, neither of which draven has. Can't really compare apples and oranges like that.
Also, the release of draven doesn't suddenly make sivir better or worse with respect to all the other ranged AD's.
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On July 12 2012 14:55 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 14:38 HazMat wrote:
Shaco quickly making his way into FOTM. jump on the train friends. When was Shaco not FOTM? Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like he is probably one of the highest picked/banned champs in soloqueue.
Haven't seen him in over a month till the last couple of days where is everywhere.
On Elobuff Shaco is the 62nd most played hero these last 3 days. And I've actually seen people play him these last 3 days. Sadly I can't seem to be able to filter by month.
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