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Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
July 08 2012 07:27 GMT
#341
On July 08 2012 16:25 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 16:04 Xevious wrote:
sv jungle akali inc

this will be fun


Did he start Doran's Blade? I missed the opening.

yeah but only because he didn't have the right runes lol

then he died to golems anyway

he's carrying hard now though
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
July 08 2012 07:29 GMT
#342
On July 08 2012 15:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 13:49 TheLink wrote:
Do you guys still get trolls and dodges when you pick Viktor or is he accepted by the ignorant masses now? I love the look of him but I get so much shit for playing Zilean already...

Viktor is good. TBH I shit my pants every time i see a good viktor. That ult and lazer do a deceivingly huge amount of damage.

I love Viktor! I've been playing him almost every game recently and only had one guy say Viktor's shit. You would get shit for playing Zilean because he's not really a carry and is incredibly unreliable in soloqueue. I'd definitely try him if I was you, his laser's the only thing that takes a while to get used to (it's not that hard though).
LOUD NOISES!!!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 07:40:31
July 08 2012 07:34 GMT
#343
On July 08 2012 16:27 TheLink wrote:

EDIT: I watch Saint crushing with jungle Sona and now the same with jungle Akali? the fuck?


Jungle Akali has been a thing for a long time, I've been maintaining a guide for almost 2 years now. The problem is there hasn't been a competitive team composition demanding a non-Shaco assassin jungler since the game launched.

I'm wondering how well he'll do without Spell Vamp Quints.

Edit: Noooo why Mundo, why you steal SV's jungle?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 08 2012 07:51 GMT
#344
ScreamLøud: AD jayce?
ScreamLøud: i think he's bad if not
ScreamLøud: top/jungle he's bad from my experience
RiotDissonance: I dunno I been playing him for 3 months
RiotDissonance: Shrug

Riot op.
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Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 08 2012 07:58 GMT
#345
On July 08 2012 16:51 HazMat wrote:
ScreamLøud: AD jayce?
ScreamLøud: i think he's bad if not
ScreamLøud: top/jungle he's bad from my experience
RiotDissonance: I dunno I been playing him for 3 months
RiotDissonance: Shrug

Riot op.


hahaha you just can't respond to that
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 08 2012 08:01 GMT
#346
AD Jayce...

Super strong earlygame it feels, stomped botlane pretty hard (with taric vs sivir/ali). However lategame I couldn't really do that much, got dived every fight. Then again my team was pretty horrible but the short range really felt bad. I'd imagine I should be able to carry a bit better with a 9-2 score but nope. In skirmishes he shines, teamfights though... didn't feel that good.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 08 2012 08:12 GMT
#347
On July 08 2012 16:58 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 16:51 HazMat wrote:
ScreamLøud: AD jayce?
ScreamLøud: i think he's bad if not
ScreamLøud: top/jungle he's bad from my experience
RiotDissonance: I dunno I been playing him for 3 months
RiotDissonance: Shrug

Riot op.


hahaha you just can't respond to that

Guess 3 months weren't enough for him to learn how to not die 1v1 in lane 6 times.

Riot duo queue stronk.
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Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
July 08 2012 08:24 GMT
#348
On July 08 2012 16:27 Xevious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 16:25 Seuss wrote:
On July 08 2012 16:04 Xevious wrote:
sv jungle akali inc

this will be fun


Did he start Doran's Blade? I missed the opening.

yeah but only because he didn't have the right runes lol

then he died to golems anyway

he's carrying hard now though

Here he goes again. With no smite...
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 08 2012 08:34 GMT
#349
is there anyone who has tons of free time and wouldnt mind helping me level an account on KR? I'll reciprocate with something, maybe lessons or e-greetingcards (:
cool beans
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 08 2012 08:36 GMT
#350
This game...

I've never been carried so hard. I think that jungle alistar is probably the ultimate noobstomper (This guy just running around from lane to lane picking up kills or forcing people to back, after 12min we're 16-1)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
July 08 2012 08:45 GMT
#351
On July 08 2012 17:24 Bwaaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 16:27 Xevious wrote:
On July 08 2012 16:25 Seuss wrote:
On July 08 2012 16:04 Xevious wrote:
sv jungle akali inc

this will be fun


Did he start Doran's Blade? I missed the opening.

yeah but only because he didn't have the right runes lol

then he died to golems anyway

he's carrying hard now though

Here he goes again. With no smite...

He's wrecking so hard o_O

On an unrelated note, is Vayne/Alistair still considered to be a good combo? Ran it in ranked 5's today against Sivir/Taric and it seemed like we lost trades pretty badly. I'd headbutt Sivir into the wall and knock her up but Taric would stun/shatter Vayne before she could Condemn. Vayne 1v1'd their Sivir a bit later really easily though I dunno it seemed like there duo did a lot more damage even when we had the items advantage.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 08:47:38
July 08 2012 08:47 GMT
#352
On July 08 2012 17:45 Hyren wrote:

On an unrelated note, is Vayne/Alistair still considered to be a good combo? Ran it in ranked 5's today against Sivir/Taric and it seemed like we lost trades pretty badly. I'd headbutt Sivir into the wall and knock her up but Taric would stun/shatter Vayne before she could Condemn. Vayne 1v1'd their Sivir a bit later really easily though I dunno it seemed like there duo did a lot more damage even when we had the items advantage.

taric support does really well vs vayne in general.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 08 2012 08:56 GMT
#353
I know this is probably discussed many time already, but do you think he is OP? I find his Q with 2k+ range absolutely absurd.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 09:37:10
July 08 2012 09:11 GMT
#354
On July 08 2012 17:56 Sufficiency wrote:
I know this is probably discussed many time already, but do you think he is OP? I find his Q with 2k+ range absolutely absurd.

Jayce? Underpowered I'd say, if anything. Maybe needs time to get figured out. Yeah the Q range is long but on the other hand it's super easy to dodge.

It's just slightly better than Corki missile, costs over 100 mana, and has a long cooldown (10 seconds because you need E to cast it too)

Also, using EQ is nearly impossible shortranged.

I don't think he gets enough from stance switching(the bonuses from R), honestly. Leveling his ult seems like a waste especially if you plan on staying ranged the whole time.

I just don't think he can 1v1 anyone who actually has an ulti and that's a huge problem, also in teamfights his ranged Q cooldown is so long he just gets one off and although he can spam W it's incredibly low ranged. As a bruiser he probably is better but I just ask myself, why not play Jax instead?

Again he probably takes a while to get used to, however after the instaban-phase yesterday when people didn't know him, I haven't seen him picked or banned in ranked even once.

Oh yeah and the Q range isn't 2k+, it's probably around 1200. It's incredibly easy to see coming, though, and the radius is pretty small (Though luckily larger than normal Q).

Q itself feels rather worthless if not used with E. Which is quite funny as it's significantly better than Graves's vs 1 target. I guess it's a combination of tiny radius + hard to land + no bonus dmg up close.

Then again if he can spam everything in the middle of a fight and actually stay alive he CAN become crazy, I really need to think hard about which build would be optimal for him. Really low base stats, though..
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
July 08 2012 09:43 GMT
#355
On July 08 2012 18:11 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 17:56 Sufficiency wrote:
I know this is probably discussed many time already, but do you think he is OP? I find his Q with 2k+ range absolutely absurd.

Jayce? Underpowered I'd say, if anything. Maybe needs time to get figured out. Yeah the Q range is long but on the other hand it's super easy to dodge.

It's just slightly better than Corki missile, costs over 100 mana, and has a long cooldown (10 seconds because you need E to cast it too)

Also, using EQ is nearly impossible shortranged.

I don't think he gets enough from stance switching(the bonuses from R), honestly. Leveling his ult seems like a waste especially if you plan on staying ranged the whole time.

I just don't think he can 1v1 anyone who actually has an ulti and that's a huge problem, also in teamfights his ranged Q cooldown is so long he just gets one off and although he can spam W it's incredibly low ranged. As a bruiser he probably is better but I just ask myself, why not play Jax instead?

Again he probably takes a while to get used to, however after the instaban-phase yesterday when people didn't know him, I haven't seen him picked or banned in ranked even once.

Oh yeah and the Q range isn't 2k+, it's probably around 1200. It's incredibly easy to see coming, though, and the radius is pretty small (Though luckily larger than normal Q).

Q itself feels rather worthless if not used with E. Which is quite funny as it's significantly better than Graves's vs 1 target. I guess it's a combination of tiny radius + hard to land + no bonus dmg up close.

Then again if he can spam everything in the middle of a fight and actually stay alive he CAN become crazy, I really need to think hard about which build would be optimal for him. Really low base stats, though..

Why are you completly ignoring his hammer stance?

His ult is a new set of qwe cooldowns.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 09:51:58
July 08 2012 09:47 GMT
#356
On July 08 2012 18:43 Bwaaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 18:11 Shikyo wrote:
On July 08 2012 17:56 Sufficiency wrote:
I know this is probably discussed many time already, but do you think he is OP? I find his Q with 2k+ range absolutely absurd.

Jayce? Underpowered I'd say, if anything. Maybe needs time to get figured out. Yeah the Q range is long but on the other hand it's super easy to dodge.

It's just slightly better than Corki missile, costs over 100 mana, and has a long cooldown (10 seconds because you need E to cast it too)

Also, using EQ is nearly impossible shortranged.

I don't think he gets enough from stance switching(the bonuses from R), honestly. Leveling his ult seems like a waste especially if you plan on staying ranged the whole time.

I just don't think he can 1v1 anyone who actually has an ulti and that's a huge problem, also in teamfights his ranged Q cooldown is so long he just gets one off and although he can spam W it's incredibly low ranged. As a bruiser he probably is better but I just ask myself, why not play Jax instead?

Again he probably takes a while to get used to, however after the instaban-phase yesterday when people didn't know him, I haven't seen him picked or banned in ranked even once.

Oh yeah and the Q range isn't 2k+, it's probably around 1200. It's incredibly easy to see coming, though, and the radius is pretty small (Though luckily larger than normal Q).

Q itself feels rather worthless if not used with E. Which is quite funny as it's significantly better than Graves's vs 1 target. I guess it's a combination of tiny radius + hard to land + no bonus dmg up close.

Then again if he can spam everything in the middle of a fight and actually stay alive he CAN become crazy, I really need to think hard about which build would be optimal for him. Really low base stats, though..

Why are you completly ignoring his hammer stance?

His ult is a new set of qwe cooldowns.

Then that's a pretty terrible ult. It doesn't even give him a huge mobility boost like Nidalee's and deals less damage. The knockback is good though, yes, but you shouldn't stay in melee form for too long. (And you should be maxing that last so it deals like no dmg until 25min+)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
July 08 2012 09:49 GMT
#357
Froggen and Misaya duo que op
Go go Alliance.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
July 08 2012 09:56 GMT
#358
On July 08 2012 18:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 18:43 Bwaaaa wrote:
On July 08 2012 18:11 Shikyo wrote:
On July 08 2012 17:56 Sufficiency wrote:
I know this is probably discussed many time already, but do you think he is OP? I find his Q with 2k+ range absolutely absurd.

Jayce? Underpowered I'd say, if anything. Maybe needs time to get figured out. Yeah the Q range is long but on the other hand it's super easy to dodge.

It's just slightly better than Corki missile, costs over 100 mana, and has a long cooldown (10 seconds because you need E to cast it too)

Also, using EQ is nearly impossible shortranged.

I don't think he gets enough from stance switching(the bonuses from R), honestly. Leveling his ult seems like a waste especially if you plan on staying ranged the whole time.

I just don't think he can 1v1 anyone who actually has an ulti and that's a huge problem, also in teamfights his ranged Q cooldown is so long he just gets one off and although he can spam W it's incredibly low ranged. As a bruiser he probably is better but I just ask myself, why not play Jax instead?

Again he probably takes a while to get used to, however after the instaban-phase yesterday when people didn't know him, I haven't seen him picked or banned in ranked even once.

Oh yeah and the Q range isn't 2k+, it's probably around 1200. It's incredibly easy to see coming, though, and the radius is pretty small (Though luckily larger than normal Q).

Q itself feels rather worthless if not used with E. Which is quite funny as it's significantly better than Graves's vs 1 target. I guess it's a combination of tiny radius + hard to land + no bonus dmg up close.

Then again if he can spam everything in the middle of a fight and actually stay alive he CAN become crazy, I really need to think hard about which build would be optimal for him. Really low base stats, though..

Why are you completly ignoring his hammer stance?

His ult is a new set of qwe cooldowns.

Then that's a pretty terrible ult. It doesn't even give him a huge mobility boost like Nidalee's and deals less damage. The knockback is good though, yes, but you shouldn't stay in melee form for too long.

His ult gives him armor and mr reduction, sheen proc, free armor, new set of cool down which do a lot of damage and a ms bonus.

What are you talking about?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 08 2012 10:07 GMT
#359
I've havn't actually laned vs a Jayce personally, but I literally havn't seen one lose a lane having seen him in like 10 games. Like every matchup too, seen him top mid and bot and seen him win in all three of those lanes. Ap carries, bruisers, AD carries... doesn't matter he has tools to fight em all.

I dont know how you say that his EQ combo is easy to dodge or see coming. I feel like I've been hit with it three or four times atleast without even seeing jayce on my screen.

I don't know if he is OP or not, but from what I've seen I'd lean more towards him being over tuned than under tuned personally.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 08 2012 10:12 GMT
#360
I was bot with an AD Jayce and I had Leona, shit was OP. We crushed the EZ/Soraka so hard. I was sceptical of him picking Jayce at first but he wasn't too bad and was following my initiation everytime and we usually killed one of them immediately. I liked how after he used his ranged skills he switched to hammer more and used the other skills as well. That was amazing and it wasn't hard to pull it since I had one of them locked down.
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