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Xevious
United States2086 Posts
On July 08 2012 16:25 Seuss wrote: Did he start Doran's Blade? I missed the opening. yeah but only because he didn't have the right runes lol then he died to golems anyway he's carrying hard now though | ||
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Lorken
New Zealand804 Posts
On July 08 2012 15:17 wei2coolman wrote: Viktor is good. TBH I shit my pants every time i see a good viktor. That ult and lazer do a deceivingly huge amount of damage. I love Viktor! I've been playing him almost every game recently and only had one guy say Viktor's shit. You would get shit for playing Zilean because he's not really a carry and is incredibly unreliable in soloqueue. I'd definitely try him if I was you, his laser's the only thing that takes a while to get used to (it's not that hard though). | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On July 08 2012 16:27 TheLink wrote: EDIT: I watch Saint crushing with jungle Sona and now the same with jungle Akali? the fuck? Jungle Akali has been a thing for a long time, I've been maintaining a guide for almost 2 years now. The problem is there hasn't been a competitive team composition demanding a non-Shaco assassin jungler since the game launched. I'm wondering how well he'll do without Spell Vamp Quints. Edit: Noooo why Mundo, why you steal SV's jungle? | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
ScreamLøud: i think he's bad if not ScreamLøud: top/jungle he's bad from my experience RiotDissonance: I dunno I been playing him for 3 months RiotDissonance: Shrug Riot op. | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On July 08 2012 16:51 HazMat wrote: ScreamLøud: AD jayce? ScreamLøud: i think he's bad if not ScreamLøud: top/jungle he's bad from my experience RiotDissonance: I dunno I been playing him for 3 months RiotDissonance: Shrug Riot op. hahaha you just can't respond to that | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Super strong earlygame it feels, stomped botlane pretty hard (with taric vs sivir/ali). However lategame I couldn't really do that much, got dived every fight. Then again my team was pretty horrible but the short range really felt bad. I'd imagine I should be able to carry a bit better with a 9-2 score but nope. In skirmishes he shines, teamfights though... didn't feel that good. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Guess 3 months weren't enough for him to learn how to not die 1v1 in lane 6 times. Riot duo queue stronk. | ||
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
On July 08 2012 16:27 Xevious wrote: yeah but only because he didn't have the right runes lol then he died to golems anyway he's carrying hard now though Here he goes again. With no smite... | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I've never been carried so hard. I think that jungle alistar is probably the ultimate noobstomper (This guy just running around from lane to lane picking up kills or forcing people to back, after 12min we're 16-1) | ||
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Hyren
United States817 Posts
He's wrecking so hard o_O On an unrelated note, is Vayne/Alistair still considered to be a good combo? Ran it in ranked 5's today against Sivir/Taric and it seemed like we lost trades pretty badly. I'd headbutt Sivir into the wall and knock her up but Taric would stun/shatter Vayne before she could Condemn. Vayne 1v1'd their Sivir a bit later really easily though I dunno it seemed like there duo did a lot more damage even when we had the items advantage. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On July 08 2012 17:45 Hyren wrote: On an unrelated note, is Vayne/Alistair still considered to be a good combo? Ran it in ranked 5's today against Sivir/Taric and it seemed like we lost trades pretty badly. I'd headbutt Sivir into the wall and knock her up but Taric would stun/shatter Vayne before she could Condemn. Vayne 1v1'd their Sivir a bit later really easily though I dunno it seemed like there duo did a lot more damage even when we had the items advantage. taric support does really well vs vayne in general. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 08 2012 17:56 Sufficiency wrote: I know this is probably discussed many time already, but do you think he is OP? I find his Q with 2k+ range absolutely absurd. Jayce? Underpowered I'd say, if anything. Maybe needs time to get figured out. Yeah the Q range is long but on the other hand it's super easy to dodge. It's just slightly better than Corki missile, costs over 100 mana, and has a long cooldown (10 seconds because you need E to cast it too) Also, using EQ is nearly impossible shortranged. I don't think he gets enough from stance switching(the bonuses from R), honestly. Leveling his ult seems like a waste especially if you plan on staying ranged the whole time. I just don't think he can 1v1 anyone who actually has an ulti and that's a huge problem, also in teamfights his ranged Q cooldown is so long he just gets one off and although he can spam W it's incredibly low ranged. As a bruiser he probably is better but I just ask myself, why not play Jax instead? Again he probably takes a while to get used to, however after the instaban-phase yesterday when people didn't know him, I haven't seen him picked or banned in ranked even once. Oh yeah and the Q range isn't 2k+, it's probably around 1200. It's incredibly easy to see coming, though, and the radius is pretty small (Though luckily larger than normal Q). Q itself feels rather worthless if not used with E. Which is quite funny as it's significantly better than Graves's vs 1 target. I guess it's a combination of tiny radius + hard to land + no bonus dmg up close. Then again if he can spam everything in the middle of a fight and actually stay alive he CAN become crazy, I really need to think hard about which build would be optimal for him. Really low base stats, though.. | ||
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
On July 08 2012 18:11 Shikyo wrote: Jayce? Underpowered I'd say, if anything. Maybe needs time to get figured out. Yeah the Q range is long but on the other hand it's super easy to dodge. It's just slightly better than Corki missile, costs over 100 mana, and has a long cooldown (10 seconds because you need E to cast it too) Also, using EQ is nearly impossible shortranged. I don't think he gets enough from stance switching(the bonuses from R), honestly. Leveling his ult seems like a waste especially if you plan on staying ranged the whole time. I just don't think he can 1v1 anyone who actually has an ulti and that's a huge problem, also in teamfights his ranged Q cooldown is so long he just gets one off and although he can spam W it's incredibly low ranged. As a bruiser he probably is better but I just ask myself, why not play Jax instead? Again he probably takes a while to get used to, however after the instaban-phase yesterday when people didn't know him, I haven't seen him picked or banned in ranked even once. Oh yeah and the Q range isn't 2k+, it's probably around 1200. It's incredibly easy to see coming, though, and the radius is pretty small (Though luckily larger than normal Q). Q itself feels rather worthless if not used with E. Which is quite funny as it's significantly better than Graves's vs 1 target. I guess it's a combination of tiny radius + hard to land + no bonus dmg up close. Then again if he can spam everything in the middle of a fight and actually stay alive he CAN become crazy, I really need to think hard about which build would be optimal for him. Really low base stats, though.. Why are you completly ignoring his hammer stance? His ult is a new set of qwe cooldowns. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 08 2012 18:43 Bwaaaa wrote: Why are you completly ignoring his hammer stance? His ult is a new set of qwe cooldowns. Then that's a pretty terrible ult. It doesn't even give him a huge mobility boost like Nidalee's and deals less damage. The knockback is good though, yes, but you shouldn't stay in melee form for too long. (And you should be maxing that last so it deals like no dmg until 25min+) | ||
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dooraven
Australia2820 Posts
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
On July 08 2012 18:47 Shikyo wrote: Then that's a pretty terrible ult. It doesn't even give him a huge mobility boost like Nidalee's and deals less damage. The knockback is good though, yes, but you shouldn't stay in melee form for too long. His ult gives him armor and mr reduction, sheen proc, free armor, new set of cool down which do a lot of damage and a ms bonus. What are you talking about? | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I dont know how you say that his EQ combo is easy to dodge or see coming. I feel like I've been hit with it three or four times atleast without even seeing jayce on my screen. I don't know if he is OP or not, but from what I've seen I'd lean more towards him being over tuned than under tuned personally. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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