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On July 08 2012 12:32 Perplex wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 11:43 Shikyo wrote:On July 08 2012 11:12 Perplex wrote:On July 08 2012 10:40 Shikyo wrote:On July 08 2012 09:15 Perplex wrote:
So after playing ori games today.. I think it's a nerf :\
Jayce is also pretty good.. not terribly OP but his E needs to be brought down a bit
hahahah also if you play for too long the client tells you to take a break. On voyboys stream it just said "You have been playing for 9 hours. Remember to take a break every once in a while!" So why does his E need to be brought down, again? It's mostly used for the knockback. The percent based magic damage is just too strong. Being able to dictate when trades end while applying that much damage is just too strong. Really? So he wins every lane and you're not just saying that after looking at the numbers? If he maxes E his damage is going to be very tiny in all other cases and he'll have no farming skills. It really doesn't deal that much damage, either. I don't max it, but you can get 3 points in it early since you don't have to worry about leveling up your ultimate. I don't know if he beats everyone, but I haven't lost many lanes at all today. Time will tell but it's just my initial feeling Wow I wrote "just too strong" twice in my last post. iPhone posting >
You haven't? o_O
I feel like Jax for one should do fine. He won't beat you in minions but he's a thousand times better lategame and should kill you every time his jungler ganks. Kennen as well, Yorick, probably Shen as well. Riven too.
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If you read this, MCMilo:
Sorry about the aram game. My shitty internet provider had some issue which knocked out all the internet, t.v., and phone lines for my area for a 1.5 hour period. Sorry about that.
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On July 08 2012 12:46 Cloud9157 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 12:26 samthesaluki wrote:
man the range nerf on kennen sucks you literally have to take so much dmg to harass. You still have an awesome disengage in e though. Do it right, and they can be stunned almost immediately while you run away and AA them the entire time. Thinking about maxing e on him second now. The nerf does call for him to be a lot closer to actually harass.
Is the refinement on kennen's auto attack a lot better?
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i didnt notice a difference
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On July 08 2012 06:49 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 03:58 LaNague wrote:On July 08 2012 03:45 zer0das wrote:
Whelp, I'm jumping on the Viktor bandwagon... bought him, fed Fizz two kills in mid when Shen ganked, proceeded to get a triple kill and just generally dominate team fights. I could get used to this. i liked viktor, but his huge laser bugs make him unplayable. Its like another passive: "Vitkor uses the newest laser technology to make his laser sometimes invisible, but often times this device fails and the laser will stop working and do no damage". oh and the jace hammer looked to me like a warhammer warrior prist, i got excited when i saw the artwork, but the rest of jayce is nothing like warhammer  actually, the full metal skin looks a bit like a tau from warhammer 40k, too. I think you meant his juge laser bugs make him OP. It's impossible to dodge his laser when you don't see it coming.
The more I've played Viktor, the more this seems to be the case. Very rarely do you miss out on damage because of his laser bugging out (at least against champions- minons are another story), but it often goes invisible and nails them. I have only played Viktor 2-3 times in the past and did quite poorly, but playing 7 games of him today I am 33/12/40. Completely dominated a lot of team fights too... got to baron after the enemy team did it and nearly instagibbed their Lulu and knocked off half their health before my team came in for cleanup duty.
In fact, the general trend I'm noticing is if my team has good positioning, destroying in team fights is pretty easy as Viktor. I guess you could say the same about any other AP, but the combination of his laser and ult does a lot of AOE damage very quickly, without requiring him to get very close at all.
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Kennen's AA feels a lot better to me. Before he always seemed to rotate his hand, causing a notable delay. Sometimes you had to throw it before your AA would even kill a creep. Or at least thats how it felt to me.
Looks the same, but its a bit faster. Missed some cs by not being used to the new animation yet.
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On July 08 2012 13:29 zer0das wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 06:49 Sufficiency wrote:On July 08 2012 03:58 LaNague wrote:On July 08 2012 03:45 zer0das wrote:
Whelp, I'm jumping on the Viktor bandwagon... bought him, fed Fizz two kills in mid when Shen ganked, proceeded to get a triple kill and just generally dominate team fights. I could get used to this. i liked viktor, but his huge laser bugs make him unplayable. Its like another passive: "Vitkor uses the newest laser technology to make his laser sometimes invisible, but often times this device fails and the laser will stop working and do no damage". oh and the jace hammer looked to me like a warhammer warrior prist, i got excited when i saw the artwork, but the rest of jayce is nothing like warhammer actually, the full metal skin looks a bit like a tau from warhammer 40k, too. I think you meant his juge laser bugs make him OP. It's impossible to dodge his laser when you don't see it coming. The more I've played Viktor, the more this seems to be the case. Very rarely do you miss out on damage because of his laser bugging out (at least against champions- minons are another story), but it often goes invisible and nails them. I have only played Viktor 2-3 times in the past and did quite poorly, but playing 7 games of him today I am 33/12/40. Completely dominated a lot of team fights too... got to baron after the enemy team did it and nearly instagibbed their Lulu and knocked off half their health before my team came in for cleanup duty. In fact, the general trend I'm noticing is if my team has good positioning, destroying in team fights is pretty easy as Viktor. I guess you could say the same about any other AP, but the combination of his laser and ult does a lot of AOE damage very quickly, without requiring him to get very close at all.
I'm thinking I may need Soniv to back me on this one, but honestly the bugging out laser thing....other than being annoying I don't think it makes much of a difference in terms of your opponent's ability to dodge it. Unless they are running away from you and you're trying to hit them as you chase at the very tip of your range you are not going to be able to dodge a well-aimed laser easily. It doesn't exactly move quickly but you can hit people straight on with it or from any angle you want while laning. It's not always going to come directly from your hitbox (ie Dark/Light binding) and the speed is similar, if not a bit faster making it extremely difficult to predict.
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Do you guys still get trolls and dodges when you pick Viktor or is he accepted by the ignorant masses now? I love the look of him but I get so much shit for playing Zilean already...
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On July 08 2012 12:46 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 12:32 Perplex wrote:On July 08 2012 11:43 Shikyo wrote:On July 08 2012 11:12 Perplex wrote:On July 08 2012 10:40 Shikyo wrote:On July 08 2012 09:15 Perplex wrote:
So after playing ori games today.. I think it's a nerf :\
Jayce is also pretty good.. not terribly OP but his E needs to be brought down a bit
hahahah also if you play for too long the client tells you to take a break. On voyboys stream it just said "You have been playing for 9 hours. Remember to take a break every once in a while!" So why does his E need to be brought down, again? It's mostly used for the knockback. The percent based magic damage is just too strong. Being able to dictate when trades end while applying that much damage is just too strong. Really? So he wins every lane and you're not just saying that after looking at the numbers? If he maxes E his damage is going to be very tiny in all other cases and he'll have no farming skills. It really doesn't deal that much damage, either. I don't max it, but you can get 3 points in it early since you don't have to worry about leveling up your ultimate. I don't know if he beats everyone, but I haven't lost many lanes at all today. Time will tell but it's just my initial feeling Wow I wrote "just too strong" twice in my last post. iPhone posting > You haven't? o_O I feel like Jax for one should do fine. He won't beat you in minions but he's a thousand times better lategame and should kill you every time his jungler ganks. Kennen as well, Yorick, probably Shen as well. Riven too.
Well it's only the first day.. I tried him out on my friends account against a malphite, irelia, and rumble. Then I bought him and played against a Pantheon too. Won every lane except for the irelia, but I feel like I could have played it better. I'm sure he has his bad match ups like everyone else but I was just really overwhelmed by how easy it was to chunk people with E at levels 8 +
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On July 08 2012 13:49 TheLink wrote:
Do you guys still get trolls and dodges when you pick Viktor or is he accepted by the ignorant masses now? I love the look of him but I get so much shit for playing Zilean already...
Generally accepted for me now. Haven't gotten raged at in a while.
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On July 08 2012 13:49 TheLink wrote:
Do you guys still get trolls and dodges when you pick Viktor or is he accepted by the ignorant masses now? I love the look of him but I get so much shit for playing Zilean already...
Maybe when someone good can play viktor at high level and win he won't be mocked. I had a viktor who blamed him getting ganked 3 times during laning phase (and left lane 0-1-0) for him being like 3-8 when the game ended at +50 minutes. Every viktor player I've ever had the displeasure of having on my team always lost their lane, and got completely shit on.
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The more people you force to dodge because they don't know anything about uncommon champions, the better.
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So. Since the whole TL inhouse thing never took off. i'm gonna learn another role to play well for solo queue until i get to my old elo to play support at again 
what role should i learn? prefer to lane over jungle just because i don't want to get baited by my own team like i do sometimes as support.
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That's a silly question considering we don't know any of your preferences, champ selection, or rune setups you might have that could favor one lane or the other.
On the other hand, you know all of those things.
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pre-buff nunu OP hehe. since then he's gained 1.25MR/lvl and the current jayce buffs. gg
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On July 08 2012 14:17 TwoToneTerran wrote:
That's a silly question considering we don't know any of your preferences, champ selection, or rune setups you might have that could favor one lane or the other.
On the other hand, you know all of those things.
K i'm a support player. Ummm i have almost every rune and champ.
Continue helping me <3
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On July 08 2012 14:18 nyxnyxnyx wrote:pre-buff nunu OP hehe. since then he's gained 1.25MR/lvl and the current jayce buffs. gg
You jungling? Anything specific you want to share? I kind of don't see much of a reason to pick him over e.g. Maokai or Alistar.
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On July 08 2012 14:21 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 14:17 TwoToneTerran wrote:
That's a silly question considering we don't know any of your preferences, champ selection, or rune setups you might have that could favor one lane or the other.
On the other hand, you know all of those things. K i'm a support player. Ummm i have almost every rune and champ. Continue helping me <3
I heard there are some champs that completely rape solo top with the right rune and mastery setups, maybe you check a few pages back I believe there was a huge discussion with grudgematches.
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dayummmm runes are expensive. first time buying them went from 10.5k ip down to 2.5k lol. Hope it's worth it.
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On July 08 2012 14:32 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 14:18 nyxnyxnyx wrote:pre-buff nunu OP hehe. since then he's gained 1.25MR/lvl and the current jayce buffs. gg You jungling? Anything specific you want to share? I kind of don't see much of a reason to pick him over e.g. Maokai or Alistar.
his steroid is unmatched. i generally run him support with a healthy dose of counterjungling dickery
if i jungle him, i make sure to mess around bot a lot just to make sure my steroid target gets farmed up.
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