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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On July 18 2012 17:55 SasukeStreams wrote: I think I'm a lot better than I am Accept that you're actually just as bad those people since I can almost guarantee that your 4 teammates are thinking the same thing about you. If you can't pull yourself out of the ELO you're at, then that's the ELO indicative of your skill.. There's no trick to it, just improve yourself. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On July 18 2012 15:26 TheYango wrote: Champions that ended up being "OP" without getting buffs: Ezreal - No changes for about 15-20 patches. Go from being "the worst AD carry in the game" to a fairly regular AD pick. There are more, but those are just off the top of my head. I don't know. The recent popularity of as reduction (such a frozen, malphite and ezreal W) and the fact that he has one of the best mid-games among all ad-carries (genja even played him a few times before people caught on) makes him a strong pick for snowballing. it makes me think that cait should be played again. That range all mid-game so good. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
If your mechanical skills are good, you can play at 1700 elo by following the calls etc of a good leader. You don't need to have good game sense if someone else takes the part of the leader. But you need at least one good leader even at lower elos, so if you aren't the one, you rely on your team for that. If you're mechanically superior to your enemies, work on your leadership skills and calls. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On July 18 2012 15:54 RogerX wrote: Soo grinding Warwick games at mid 1400's. When does he stop being useful? i also wonder what happened, its true he got nerfed slightly but it doesnt really explain why from perm ban/first pick he is almost never seen in games Oo | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Regarding Elo, I've been able to carry myself to 1300. I'm around 1400 now, but that's because I've had a streak of lucky games, or being carried, but for now it's clear I can't carry at that level (also my mediocre AD carry that could survive/farm and do some basic jobs w/o carrying doesn't cut in anymore). I'm able to hold my own just fine in a lot of cases, I still haven't really fed apart from maybe one game, but it's clear that I can't get higher by myself w/o improvement from my part. So although my personal skill level might hover around 1400 Elo, my "true Elo" in the sense of ending up where you can carry yourself/climb back to by yourself is rather 1300. (And it's only because my runes/match-ups/trading sense are better than a lot of opponents: I don't get outplayed much but my farming mechanics are too awful to use it, I farm worse than a lot if not most of people there.) So yeah. Admit you're bad—even if you climbed to 1500, you'd still be bad amongst committed/competitive players—and work on your rooms of improvement divided between two areas: what'll make you more skilled personally, and what'll make you carry harder (ie. carrying at low Elo isn't about making the optimal plays in a vacuum). | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On July 18 2012 19:41 IMoperator wrote: My friends keep telling me that it's stupid to max W first on ezreal. And I keep telling them that they're wrong and it's good for harassing in lane because it does good damage and doesn't get blocked by minions. I go Q->E->Q->W and get W at level 4 then proceed to max it first and then Q. I'm right, right? Just max W because it lets you win trades. 1 level in Q is sufficient. Tell them you win trades because you lower their attack speeds which makes them attack stupidly slow. edit- V I like 5hit's idea better | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:14 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Don't tell them about it and you'll just look like god when you rape every adc that trades with you I think this is the best idea. Damage in trading is relative. If you do 30% and the other guy does 20, you win most of the time. When it goes 40 40 is when it starts to get real messy. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On July 18 2012 14:40 TheYango wrote: Bringing back the TF discussion: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDI4MjQwNTg4.html This is how to play TF. I slowly understand your hardon for that guy. So much fun to just watch him rape. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On July 18 2012 19:41 IMoperator wrote: My friends keep telling me that it's stupid to max W first on ezreal. And I keep telling them that they're wrong and it's good for harassing in lane because it does good damage and doesn't get blocked by minions. I go Q->E->Q->W and get W at level 4 then proceed to max it first and then Q. I'm right, right? Dontmashme maxes W and then E on AD ez believe it or not. I mean it makes sense since Q is really only used to reset autoattack when youre playing Infinity Edge Ez but the cd reduction on Q is more important than E to me. Just putting that out there. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 18 2012 23:33 HazMat wrote: Dontmashme maxes W and then E on AD ez believe it or not. I mean it makes sense since Q is really only used to reset autoattack when youre playing Infinity Edge Ez but the cd reduction on Q is more important than E to me. Just putting that out there. I don't know why you'd do E over Q, though. I can't really think of many situations where 8 seconds less on your blink can outweigh the damage/CDR from Q, especially since Q will lower the CD of E if you land it anyway. My thought is, if you're in a chase situation where 8 seconds on E will make or break you living, you probably fucked up anyway. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 18 2012 23:38 Requizen wrote: I don't know why you'd do E over Q, though. I can't really think of many situations where 8 seconds less on your blink can outweigh the damage/CDR from Q, especially since Q will lower the CD of E if you land it anyway. My thought is, if you're in a chase situation where 8 seconds on E will make or break you living, you probably fucked up anyway. What? 8 seconds is HUGE. Not saying that E > Q is best or anything, but seriously? How can you possibly value 8 seconds lower CD on a blink that low? | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On July 18 2012 18:43 spinesheath wrote: By the way, it's not weird at all that you can do well at 1700 elo but fail to carry yourself up there. If your mechanical skills are good, you can play at 1700 elo by following the calls etc of a good leader. You don't need to have good game sense if someone else takes the part of the leader. But you need at least one good leader even at lower elos, so if you aren't the one, you rely on your team for that. If you're mechanically superior to your enemies, work on your leadership skills and calls. This is such a good point. It's very hard as a low ELO person when no one on your team is a leader, much less a good one. If you feel at a loss as to what you can do at a certain point in a game, your decision making and game sense need improvement (therefore, you're where you're supposed to be). If you're getting dominated in lane it's probably mechanics. It's all intertwined but I think it's a good distinction to make. | ||
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