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Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
July 16 2012 22:33 GMT
#2241
at first i felt some sympathy for nintendudex then i saw his posts on reddit (in his thread regarding his own personal issues) and that sympathy melted quickly away.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 16 2012 22:42 GMT
#2242
On July 17 2012 07:24 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:06 arb wrote:
Do champions get the level up stats for being lvl 1? or are the stats like 383 hp(+30) their lvl 1 stats?

yes

Depends what site you visit. Yes for the wiki, though I don't think this was always true either.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
July 16 2012 23:03 GMT
#2243
WHERE IS THE GODDAMN SALES ANNOUNCEMENT THREAD! I NEED MORE SKINS! COMEON RIOT!!!!!

No srsly. I want the sale, now. They didn't sell anything I could use the last three weeks. /sniffle
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
July 16 2012 23:10 GMT
#2244
On July 17 2012 06:14 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 04:14 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Omg pony is so good.

You got wards? - lol ghost+E
You towerhugging? - np initiate with ult then W and hammer away while getting all my health back

Tbh to me he feels like Skarner 2.0 - clears decently fast and his ganks are awesome. Also pretty strong at catching anyone even slightly out of position.
Ult is strong initiation and E lets you peel off bruisers from your carry. W keeps you alive forever in teamfights especially with max CDR and you can back off when its on CD only to come back to clean up when its up again. New favorite jungler.


You mean a champion with Malphite Ult, Rammus Powerball, an ability which is effectively 30% Life Steal and Spell Vamp (sans AoE penalty!) off anything anyone does and a cheap, scaling, spammable AoE, is strong?

Shocking.


I mean to say that most people don't realize how good he is. and even though I've read you post multiple times about him I still wasn't expecting him to be so strong.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
July 16 2012 23:22 GMT
#2245
On July 17 2012 05:55 Slayer91 wrote:
ITS OVER ITS OVER GG GG GG HUNTS WIN GG GG ITS FUCKIN OVER DUDE


Just reading this is making me laugh. TOO just has that special type of goofy personality that makes these types of rants really funny to me.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 23:33:50
July 16 2012 23:32 GMT
#2246
Dyrus goes legendary 10/0/6 Jax first game but proceeds to go 0/6/3 olaf next game, with xpecial having more gold than him hehe gg.

Regi only playing tf for 2-3 weeks now and beasting, enemies still dont ban it xD
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 16 2012 23:34 GMT
#2247
On July 17 2012 08:10 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 06:14 Seuss wrote:
On July 17 2012 04:14 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Omg pony is so good.

You got wards? - lol ghost+E
You towerhugging? - np initiate with ult then W and hammer away while getting all my health back

Tbh to me he feels like Skarner 2.0 - clears decently fast and his ganks are awesome. Also pretty strong at catching anyone even slightly out of position.
Ult is strong initiation and E lets you peel off bruisers from your carry. W keeps you alive forever in teamfights especially with max CDR and you can back off when its on CD only to come back to clean up when its up again. New favorite jungler.


You mean a champion with Malphite Ult, Rammus Powerball, an ability which is effectively 30% Life Steal and Spell Vamp (sans AoE penalty!) off anything anyone does and a cheap, scaling, spammable AoE, is strong?

Shocking.


I mean to say that most people don't realize how good he is. and even though I've read you post multiple times about him I still wasn't expecting him to be so strong.


Really I'm just glad to see another player enjoying him.

To be perfectly fair my initial impression was that he wasn't a great jungler. You can see a definitive progress in my posts on the subject.

Monte Hecarim Post #1: "It worked out alright."
Monte Hecarim Post #2: "As of yet I think there's still some room to explore Hecarim as a jungler, but he seems far more suited for top or midlane."
Monte Hecarim Post #3: "Now that I've played him Hecarim isn't as bad a jungler as people are making out. I wouldn't say he's top tier, but he's decent."
Monte Hecarim Post #4: "I need to play a game where I don't get 3+ kills in the first 10 minutes before I can give a decisive verdict."
Monte Thereafter: "Why am I not abusing this pony for free Platinum?"

Granted, that was over a couple of days. It's taken months for the greater LoL community to reach #3. I'll keep pointing out he's the best pick that isn't Alistar/Naut/Malphite until a month or two from now when everyone starts banning him.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 16 2012 23:40 GMT
#2248
On July 17 2012 08:34 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 08:10 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:14 Seuss wrote:
On July 17 2012 04:14 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Omg pony is so good.

You got wards? - lol ghost+E
You towerhugging? - np initiate with ult then W and hammer away while getting all my health back

Tbh to me he feels like Skarner 2.0 - clears decently fast and his ganks are awesome. Also pretty strong at catching anyone even slightly out of position.
Ult is strong initiation and E lets you peel off bruisers from your carry. W keeps you alive forever in teamfights especially with max CDR and you can back off when its on CD only to come back to clean up when its up again. New favorite jungler.


You mean a champion with Malphite Ult, Rammus Powerball, an ability which is effectively 30% Life Steal and Spell Vamp (sans AoE penalty!) off anything anyone does and a cheap, scaling, spammable AoE, is strong?

Shocking.


I mean to say that most people don't realize how good he is. and even though I've read you post multiple times about him I still wasn't expecting him to be so strong.


Really I'm just glad to see another player enjoying him.

To be perfectly fair my initial impression was that he wasn't a great jungler. You can see a definitive progress in my posts on the subject.

Monte Hecarim Post #1: "It worked out alright."
Monte Hecarim Post #2: "As of yet I think there's still some room to explore Hecarim as a jungler, but he seems far more suited for top or midlane."
Monte Hecarim Post #3: "Now that I've played him Hecarim isn't as bad a jungler as people are making out. I wouldn't say he's top tier, but he's decent."
Monte Hecarim Post #4: "I need to play a game where I don't get 3+ kills in the first 10 minutes before I can give a decisive verdict."
Monte Thereafter: "Why am I not abusing this pony for free Platinum?"

Granted, that was over a couple of days. It's taken months for the greater LoL community to reach #3. I'll keep pointing out he's the best pick that isn't Alistar/Naut/Malphite until a month or two from now when everyone starts banning him.

I jungled him a few times and never ceased to do good with him.

He hits like a truck hitting you with another truck with a kill or two too. But I could never find a good solid build for him or anything so I just quit jungling him
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 23:41:46
July 16 2012 23:40 GMT
#2249
its funny reading my hecarim thread now where i said he is a good jungler, and people were like 'stfu noob, you cant get fed on him reliably' and now there is this.

edit: for the record i go 2x gp5, merc treads, triforce, maw - game is over by that point.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 23:43:56
July 16 2012 23:43 GMT
#2250
On July 17 2012 08:40 Vaporized wrote:
its funny reading my hecarim thread now where i said he is a good jungler, and people were like 'stfu noob, you cant get fed on him reliably' and now there is this.

edit: for the record i go 2x gp5, merc treads, triforce, maw - game is over by that point.

I tried this but it didnt feel like you did damage without Sheen, and no wriggles meant kinda slow clear i thought, once you get a kill or two he's so easy to snowball though.

And I could never figure which runes would be best or anything, not alot of help anywhere and everyone ran diff stuff lol
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 16 2012 23:43 GMT
#2251
On July 17 2012 08:34 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 08:10 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:14 Seuss wrote:
On July 17 2012 04:14 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Omg pony is so good.

You got wards? - lol ghost+E
You towerhugging? - np initiate with ult then W and hammer away while getting all my health back

Tbh to me he feels like Skarner 2.0 - clears decently fast and his ganks are awesome. Also pretty strong at catching anyone even slightly out of position.
Ult is strong initiation and E lets you peel off bruisers from your carry. W keeps you alive forever in teamfights especially with max CDR and you can back off when its on CD only to come back to clean up when its up again. New favorite jungler.


You mean a champion with Malphite Ult, Rammus Powerball, an ability which is effectively 30% Life Steal and Spell Vamp (sans AoE penalty!) off anything anyone does and a cheap, scaling, spammable AoE, is strong?

Shocking.


I mean to say that most people don't realize how good he is. and even though I've read you post multiple times about him I still wasn't expecting him to be so strong.


Really I'm just glad to see another player enjoying him.

To be perfectly fair my initial impression was that he wasn't a great jungler. You can see a definitive progress in my posts on the subject.

Monte Hecarim Post #1: "It worked out alright."
Monte Hecarim Post #2: "As of yet I think there's still some room to explore Hecarim as a jungler, but he seems far more suited for top or midlane."
Monte Hecarim Post #3: "Now that I've played him Hecarim isn't as bad a jungler as people are making out. I wouldn't say he's top tier, but he's decent."
Monte Hecarim Post #4: "I need to play a game where I don't get 3+ kills in the first 10 minutes before I can give a decisive verdict."
Monte Thereafter: "Why am I not abusing this pony for free Platinum?"

Granted, that was over a couple of days. It's taken months for the greater LoL community to reach #3. I'll keep pointing out he's the best pick that isn't Alistar/Naut/Malphite until a month or two from now when everyone starts banning him.


Do you find yourself going glacial/frozen + shureliya more often than triforce? I see a lot of hecarim lately at my ELO, and some people rush triforce and some go gp5 + cdr. I'm not sure what's better to be honest as i've never played him
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 23:44:29
July 16 2012 23:43 GMT
#2252
On July 17 2012 08:40 Vaporized wrote:
its funny reading my hecarim thread now where i said he is a good jungler, and people were like 'stfu noob, you cant get fed on him reliably' and now there is this.

edit: for the record i go 2x gp5, merc treads, triforce, maw - game is over by that point.


no one said hecarim was bad. it was your build.

boots 3 start
hog + philo
triforce
PD
PD
Fromal
LW
force of nature

rofl
GANDHISAUCE
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 00:01:30
July 16 2012 23:58 GMT
#2253
On July 17 2012 08:43 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 08:34 Seuss wrote:
On July 17 2012 08:10 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On July 17 2012 06:14 Seuss wrote:
On July 17 2012 04:14 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Omg pony is so good.

You got wards? - lol ghost+E
You towerhugging? - np initiate with ult then W and hammer away while getting all my health back

Tbh to me he feels like Skarner 2.0 - clears decently fast and his ganks are awesome. Also pretty strong at catching anyone even slightly out of position.
Ult is strong initiation and E lets you peel off bruisers from your carry. W keeps you alive forever in teamfights especially with max CDR and you can back off when its on CD only to come back to clean up when its up again. New favorite jungler.


You mean a champion with Malphite Ult, Rammus Powerball, an ability which is effectively 30% Life Steal and Spell Vamp (sans AoE penalty!) off anything anyone does and a cheap, scaling, spammable AoE, is strong?

Shocking.


I mean to say that most people don't realize how good he is. and even though I've read you post multiple times about him I still wasn't expecting him to be so strong.


Really I'm just glad to see another player enjoying him.

To be perfectly fair my initial impression was that he wasn't a great jungler. You can see a definitive progress in my posts on the subject.

Monte Hecarim Post #1: "It worked out alright."
Monte Hecarim Post #2: "As of yet I think there's still some room to explore Hecarim as a jungler, but he seems far more suited for top or midlane."
Monte Hecarim Post #3: "Now that I've played him Hecarim isn't as bad a jungler as people are making out. I wouldn't say he's top tier, but he's decent."
Monte Hecarim Post #4: "I need to play a game where I don't get 3+ kills in the first 10 minutes before I can give a decisive verdict."
Monte Thereafter: "Why am I not abusing this pony for free Platinum?"

Granted, that was over a couple of days. It's taken months for the greater LoL community to reach #3. I'll keep pointing out he's the best pick that isn't Alistar/Naut/Malphite until a month or two from now when everyone starts banning him.


Do you find yourself going glacial/frozen + shureliya more often than triforce? I see a lot of hecarim lately at my ELO, and some people rush triforce and some go gp5 + cdr. I'm not sure what's better to be honest as i've never played him


90% of the time in solo queue I'm going Philo -> Aegis + Glacial + Reverie -> FH + Whatever. I don't bother with HoG much anymore because I'd rather have Kindlegem for CDR or a faster Aegis. I'm building that way largely because the current meta relies heavily on tanky, initiating junglers, so building damage is generally out of the question unless I'm fed or my team is unusually tanky. Also Gandhi makes me build Aegis every TL B game, QQ.

Trinity Force is a good item on Hecarim, but costs a crapton and doesn't provide much defense or team utilty. Meanwhile Hecarim gets huge returns on damage, survivability, and utility with CDR, which comes conveniently on stupidly good items like Reverie and FH.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 00:06:37
July 17 2012 00:05 GMT
#2254
On July 17 2012 08:58 Seuss wrote:
Also Gandhi makes me build Aegis every TL B game, QQ.

lol

The only disappointing thing about jungle Hecarim is that you don't get to abuse the hilarity of lane Hecarim where you just max W, sit on creeps and just heal a bunch while your enemy can't do much about it.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2012 00:17 GMT
#2255
ugh ap janna worst fotm :/
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
July 17 2012 00:29 GMT
#2256
On July 17 2012 08:43 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 08:40 Vaporized wrote:
its funny reading my hecarim thread now where i said he is a good jungler, and people were like 'stfu noob, you cant get fed on him reliably' and now there is this.

edit: for the record i go 2x gp5, merc treads, triforce, maw - game is over by that point.

I tried this but it didnt feel like you did damage without Sheen, and no wriggles meant kinda slow clear i thought, once you get a kill or two he's so easy to snowball though.

And I could never figure which runes would be best or anything, not alot of help anywhere and everyone ran diff stuff lol

for runes i go ad or atkspd (either work, ad gives better ganks, atkspd gives better clear), armor yellow, mres blue, move speed quints. 9-12-9 masteries. starting 2xgp5 means you dont do a lot of damage early, but you can still get a kill with your first red (start boots). after merc treads u get sheen and you go beast mode. wriggles always seemed like a waste because you have sustain with w and once u get a few lvls in q you clear fast enough. wriggles instead of gp5 is perfectly fine, i just prefer gp5. its more of a personal preference. and dont get lulled into complacency by your low damage against creeps, q does good damage to champs at all lvls in the early game.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 17 2012 00:44 GMT
#2257
Alright, you guys convinced me. Picked up the pony.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
July 17 2012 00:47 GMT
#2258
On July 17 2012 08:03 Celial wrote:
WHERE IS THE GODDAMN SALES ANNOUNCEMENT THREAD! I NEED MORE SKINS! COMEON RIOT!!!!!

No srsly. I want the sale, now. They didn't sell anything I could use the last three weeks. /sniffle


Leona, Mundo, and Kassadin are on sale

Superb Villain Veigar, Tundra Hunter Warwick, and Siren Cassiopeia skins are on sale.

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=773168
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
July 17 2012 00:59 GMT
#2259
On July 17 2012 09:47 JBright wrote:

Superb Villain Veigar,


YESSSSSSSSS
TranslatorBaa!
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
July 17 2012 01:10 GMT
#2260
On July 17 2012 08:32 AsnSensation wrote:
Dyrus goes legendary 10/0/6 Jax first game but proceeds to go 0/6/3 olaf next game, with xpecial having more gold than him hehe gg.

Regi only playing tf for 2-3 weeks now and beasting, enemies still dont ban it xD

There are probably better TF players but TSM abusing all the champs with global getting them nerfed probably going to get TF nerfed too. The only one TSM didn't pick constantly seems to be Shen.
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