• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:31
CET 11:31
KST 19:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier6Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League97
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book SC2 Power Rank: epic29 Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion Mathematicians needed to calc "Low Econ Epicness" SCHNAIL now supports Remastered Ziemie's Starcraft 1 Prequel Campaign
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Grand Finals 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Deus Ex 3!? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8807 users

[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 32

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 288 Next
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
June 08 2012 17:26 GMT
#621
On June 09 2012 01:21 Eiii wrote:
Today I finally got around to replacing the champ select music with the space jam theme. I think that's all that really needs to be said on the matter.

Unless...
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 08 2012 17:26 GMT
#622
Draven's E can go through dragon/baron nashor wall just like Blitzcrank's hook, thats a cool lil trick
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 08 2012 17:30 GMT
#623
On June 09 2012 02:15 Prinate wrote:
Has anyone found some clever tricks or use of Draven's E yet? I've mostly only practiced in customs and rarely found a use for it other than generic disengage or slow for chase.

I haven't tried it, but since everyone thinks Blitz is anti-Draven, anyone else think he'd be a good laning partner for him on a coordinated team? Draven's E would open up a path for his grab (or any support's line skillshot.) Similarly, it could be used to help open a path for a jungler to come into a lane, if a bit obvious.

The biggest use I've seen for it is to interrupt movement abilities. For example, I was spectating a game last night where Draven threw it at an Amumu who was Bandage Tossing onto a group of people. While it didn't stop the stun, it stopped Amumu from moving forward (knocking him aside midair), so he couldn't get his ult off.
It's your boy Guzma!
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 08 2012 17:45 GMT
#624
I find Draven's E and Ult to be severely disappointing.

His Ult doesn't do enough damage and takes too much manage to be really that useful in a teamfight. I resorted to using it to snipe low-health champs after a teamfight.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 08 2012 17:45 GMT
#625
On June 09 2012 02:15 Prinate wrote:I haven't tried it, but since everyone thinks Blitz is anti-Draven, anyone else think he'd be a good laning partner for him on a coordinated team? Draven's E would open up a path for his grab (or any support's line skillshot.) Similarly, it could be used to help open a path for a jungler to come into a lane, if a bit obvious.


Personally I think the idea that Blitzcrank counters Draven is severely overblown. Minions typically get in the way of where your axe drops, and not picking up the axe doesn't have any huge deteriment to it if you're not engaging. Also, you have an instant move speed buff to dodge the grab, so if anything, it's a lot easier to dodge incoming grabs than with say, Tris or Kog. I find it even easier to dodge grabs than with Vayne.

This coming from someone who routinely gets wrecked by Blitzcranks.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 18:00:12
June 08 2012 17:56 GMT
#626
On June 09 2012 02:05 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 20:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
rhavanna is inventor of all things nashor's tooth


This crushes my dreams of inventing something original. I've been building nashor's tooth instead of PD on Ashe for forever.


I hate nashor's tooth with a passion. As much as anybody I'd love to be a unique flower like caller was with speed Garen and trinity Morde but I draw the line at considering NT a good item on any champ anywhere for any purpose.

Nashor's ashe especially just makes me go WTF.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
June 08 2012 18:00 GMT
#627
On June 09 2012 01:45 gtrsrs wrote:
i've had menu animations and music disabled since dominion came out or earlier
i didn't realize there were actual animations now and not just like swirls of sparkles

Turn the animations back off, they're creepy and weird. For example, why was Darius' armor breathing? Did that not bug anyone else?
:3
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 08 2012 18:05 GMT
#628
On June 09 2012 00:58 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:54 Seuss wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:12 mordek wrote:
On June 08 2012 23:53 ExoFun wrote:
Just bought this PC.... can i play and stream with it in high quality?
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137554 probably be a more helpful place.

Had the Draven login music stuck in my head when I woke up this morning lol. Pumped for Friday now


The best decision Riot ever made was telling their music person, "You know what, you don't have to shoehorn the League theme into everything. Have a blast." Every intro screen since then has been fantastic.

On June 09 2012 00:52 MindBreaker wrote:
Downgrade the graphics card and get a better processor lol don't take that much graphics power but streaming is CPU intensive get an i7


I stream on an i5 no problem. All of the difficulties I had in the past were due to the crappy modem my ISP provided.

I really should make a thread and start streaming my meteoric rise to (fall from?) greatness.

You should. If you're commentary is anything like your top tier posting I will make every effort to tune in when I can


It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder to say something insightful on the fly while paying attention to your game than it is to peruse a thread in a leisurely manner, stroke one's beard thoughtfully, and then carefully construct a sage response.

Not to say I won't try, but if you're expecting every play to involve post-quality thoughts and insights you'll probably be sorely disappointed.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 18:20:20
June 08 2012 18:20 GMT
#629
On June 09 2012 03:05 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:58 mordek wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:54 Seuss wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:12 mordek wrote:
On June 08 2012 23:53 ExoFun wrote:
Just bought this PC.... can i play and stream with it in high quality?
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137554 probably be a more helpful place.

Had the Draven login music stuck in my head when I woke up this morning lol. Pumped for Friday now


The best decision Riot ever made was telling their music person, "You know what, you don't have to shoehorn the League theme into everything. Have a blast." Every intro screen since then has been fantastic.

On June 09 2012 00:52 MindBreaker wrote:
Downgrade the graphics card and get a better processor lol don't take that much graphics power but streaming is CPU intensive get an i7


I stream on an i5 no problem. All of the difficulties I had in the past were due to the crappy modem my ISP provided.

I really should make a thread and start streaming my meteoric rise to (fall from?) greatness.

You should. If you're commentary is anything like your top tier posting I will make every effort to tune in when I can


It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder to say something insightful on the fly while paying attention to your game than it is to peruse a thread in a leisurely manner, stroke one's beard thoughtfully, and then carefully construct a sage response.

Not to say I won't try, but if you're expecting every play to involve post-quality thoughts and insights you'll probably be sorely disappointed.

I'll make it a lenient anything close I totally get that. Trying to teach someone while playing the game is super hard haha.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 18:23:33
June 08 2012 18:22 GMT
#630
Just from picks seems like M5 is going to win even if they weren't M5
(M5) Malphite, Morg, Kog, Soraka, Shen
vs
(Salad Supreme) Noct, Ashe, Janna, Darius, Cassio
http://www.twitch.tv/ipllol
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 08 2012 18:32 GMT
#631
On June 09 2012 03:22 BlackMagister wrote:
Just from picks seems like M5 is going to win even if they weren't M5
(M5) Malphite, Morg, Kog, Soraka, Shen
vs
(Salad Supreme) Noct, Ashe, Janna, Darius, Cassio
http://www.twitch.tv/ipllol

? the picks seem fine to me...
GANDHISAUCE
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 18:35:19
June 08 2012 18:34 GMT
#632
Seems like a good protect the Kog comp is all I'm saying. The game is still in lane phase though and dead even so far.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 08 2012 18:35 GMT
#633
On June 09 2012 03:22 BlackMagister wrote:
Just from picks seems like M5 is going to win even if they weren't M5
(M5) Malphite, Morg, Kog, Soraka, Shen
vs
(Salad Supreme) Noct, Ashe, Janna, Darius, Cassio
http://www.twitch.tv/ipllol

M5's composition is terribly reliant on Kog not messing up a single time, Salad's comp is extremely high DPS together with Ashe Arrow. Both can win, depends on skill.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 08 2012 18:36 GMT
#634
On June 09 2012 03:35 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:22 BlackMagister wrote:
Just from picks seems like M5 is going to win even if they weren't M5
(M5) Malphite, Morg, Kog, Soraka, Shen
vs
(Salad Supreme) Noct, Ashe, Janna, Darius, Cassio
http://www.twitch.tv/ipllol

M5's composition is terribly reliant on Kog not messing up a single time, Salad's comp is extremely high DPS together with Ashe Arrow. Both can win, depends on skill.

shen morgana soraka? he can mess up all he wants, he won't die.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 18:41:38
June 08 2012 18:38 GMT
#635
I am seriously enjoying playing support nowadays. I originally didn't, thought it was really boring, but it's so fun knowing that you're saving everything and securing kills. Plus, you just get to chill in lane and put on pressure without worrying about last hitting, which is nice, one of the reasons I like jungling as well.

Taric feels like he falls off lategame (just a stunbot with auras), so Imma learn either Janna, Soraka, or Alistar. Lulu and Leona too expensive for a support T.T

Edit: Also watching the tournament. Why do people not ban Morg? Too stronk.


And a random aside: is there such a thing as Morg support? Snare, shield (while nothing against autos, stops CC well), and of course the ult. Of course she's better mid, but is it anything to consider?
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 08 2012 18:40 GMT
#636
On June 09 2012 03:05 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:58 mordek wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:54 Seuss wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:12 mordek wrote:
On June 08 2012 23:53 ExoFun wrote:
Just bought this PC.... can i play and stream with it in high quality?
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137554 probably be a more helpful place.

Had the Draven login music stuck in my head when I woke up this morning lol. Pumped for Friday now


The best decision Riot ever made was telling their music person, "You know what, you don't have to shoehorn the League theme into everything. Have a blast." Every intro screen since then has been fantastic.

On June 09 2012 00:52 MindBreaker wrote:
Downgrade the graphics card and get a better processor lol don't take that much graphics power but streaming is CPU intensive get an i7


I stream on an i5 no problem. All of the difficulties I had in the past were due to the crappy modem my ISP provided.

I really should make a thread and start streaming my meteoric rise to (fall from?) greatness.

You should. If you're commentary is anything like your top tier posting I will make every effort to tune in when I can


It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder to say something insightful on the fly while paying attention to your game than it is to peruse a thread in a leisurely manner, stroke one's beard thoughtfully, and then carefully construct a sage response.

Not to say I won't try, but if you're expecting every play to involve post-quality thoughts and insights you'll probably be sorely disappointed.


It might help your communication skills. You'll learn to talk and do things at the same time.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
June 08 2012 18:42 GMT
#637
On June 09 2012 01:59 Soloside wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 23:53 ExoFun wrote:
Just bought this PC.... can i play and stream with it in high quality?

[image loading]


you should be able to stream.... I stream at 1080 without any issues with i5-2500k

i'd watch your power supply though, 500W seems to be cutting it really close.

Offtopic, 500w is fine, as long as it's a good one. People run 2 7850s in xfire with a 550watt psu.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
June 08 2012 18:42 GMT
#638
On June 09 2012 01:59 Soloside wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 23:53 ExoFun wrote:
Just bought this PC.... can i play and stream with it in high quality?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


you should be able to stream.... I stream at 1080 without any issues with i5-2500k

i'd watch your power supply though, 500W seems to be cutting it really close.

Still got a 620W in mine old system.... i always can that if i am gonna replace it.

Voeding: Cooler Master Real PowerPro ,620Watt, and mine provider is also fine i think..

[image loading]
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
June 08 2012 18:42 GMT
#639
casters talk about whether or not Darius ult goes through morgana shield.. 2gud.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
June 08 2012 18:44 GMT
#640
On June 09 2012 03:42 Perplex wrote:
casters talk about whether or not Darius ult goes through morgana shield.. 2gud.

I thought they were talking about whether his pull went through morganna shield. Then they talked about whether his crippling strike slow would apply.
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 288 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 476
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 2096
firebathero 1426
Horang2 625
GuemChi 552
FanTaSy 503
Killer 244
BeSt 205
EffOrt 164
Leta 147
Zeus 136
[ Show more ]
Mind 121
Pusan 90
Soma 86
sorry 83
Bisu 73
Last 65
Barracks 43
Shinee 38
ToSsGirL 34
Bishop 28
Aegong 27
910 27
Classic 19
Free 14
soO 14
zelot 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Sacsri 8
Other Games
XaKoH 418
Happy267
Pyrionflax80
ArmadaUGS45
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL1390
Other Games
ComeBackTV 297
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 24
lovetv 10
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Light_VIP 28
• Adnapsc2 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 29m
Yamato Cup
4h 29m
IPSL
6h 29m
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
12h 29m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 1h
Ultimate Battle
1d 1h
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
IPSL
6 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-30
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.