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[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 30

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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
June 08 2012 05:47 GMT
#581
making a new computer within the next few days . Finally going to be able to stream and also play the game on max settings instead of all very low. This should be fun.
BW -> League -> CSGO
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 08 2012 05:53 GMT
#582
On June 08 2012 14:47 wussleeQ wrote:
making a new computer within the next few days . Finally going to be able to stream and also play the game on max settings instead of all very low. This should be fun.

I'M DOING THE SAME THING YAY
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 08 2012 05:56 GMT
#583
On June 08 2012 13:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
So, what the fuck.
I just bought Nautilus and I heard Wit's End is an okay item because of the DoT on his W.
Ingame, I have not one, but THREE different people (one of my friends among them) calling me out on my build.
Boots start into Philo-->HoG-->Merc's-->Wit's and I was 1/0/2 at this point.
"Who gets fucking Wit's End on Nautilus?"

Am I doing something wrong? I didn't get glacial or Aegis yet because our team was lacking damage more than anything....
Like wtf I didn't think I was that off in my item builds...I never get called out for that shit.

SOMEONE VALIDATE MEEEE (Or shut me down and tell me I'm a fucking idiot)

Wit's isn't bad but secret OP is actually Nashor's Tooth. Not joking.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 08 2012 05:57 GMT
#584
nashors jax so op
GANDHISAUCE
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17920 Posts
June 08 2012 06:04 GMT
#585
I like playing all video settings on low, then models on very high tbh. The new scenery and junk looks good enough on its own i think.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
June 08 2012 06:24 GMT
#586
chu was the evangalist for nashor's tooth naut, been building it since his release
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
June 08 2012 06:32 GMT
#587
On June 08 2012 13:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
So, what the fuck.
I just bought Nautilus and I heard Wit's End is an okay item because of the DoT on his W.
Ingame, I have not one, but THREE different people (one of my friends among them) calling me out on my build.
Boots start into Philo-->HoG-->Merc's-->Wit's and I was 1/0/2 at this point.
"Who gets fucking Wit's End on Nautilus?"

Am I doing something wrong? I didn't get glacial or Aegis yet because our team was lacking damage more than anything....
Like wtf I didn't think I was that off in my item builds...I never get called out for that shit.

SOMEONE VALIDATE MEEEE (Or shut me down and tell me I'm a fucking idiot)


Well people have reported me multiple times for building wit's end on shen lol. People have these weird ideas on how to build the 'tank'. Just ignore them.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 06:55:48
June 08 2012 06:54 GMT
#588
meh, tbh i love playign tank mostly because its one of the more situational item choices, you'll almost have a different build most of the time.

though nashors is good w/ naut, I feel that if i had to choose between nashors vs wits. i'd go wits 9 times out of 10. the mr + 40 dmg pershot, especially if you're aiming for the AS, the dmg synergies w/ the 40dmg rather than the ap given via nashors tooth.
liftlift > tsm
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 07:26:04
June 08 2012 07:19 GMT
#589
On June 08 2012 09:42 MooMooMugi wrote:
How? Morde just spams E gets full shield, hitting minions and Akali, while Akali can't break his shield plus gets harassed whenever she tries to cs without Q

Akali walks up to morde, Yo more sup? Look at my Q, look at my auto, nice E does like 50dmg gj m8.
You're not going to get any cs when akali just runs towards you. This is assuming you're top though, bit harder to do mid.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
June 08 2012 07:43 GMT
#590
My one gripe for this whole patch. Draven is not throwing axes he's throwing some weird sickle/sword thing. The only axe thrower in the league is Olaf. Akali as well if you count the kamas as axes which you shouldn't
I reject your reality and substitute my own
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 08 2012 08:27 GMT
#591
I'd rather get tankiness through wit's than damage through nashor's on Naut (plus if the game goes on the cdr will be wasted with shurelya+shroud), 1v1 their mid Cass at level 8-9 and just a few autos huehue.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
June 08 2012 08:34 GMT
#592
Varus, Darius and Draven are all boring. Riot, please don't make a champ for the sake of making a champ.
Its grack
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
June 08 2012 08:36 GMT
#593
On June 08 2012 14:56 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 13:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
So, what the fuck.
I just bought Nautilus and I heard Wit's End is an okay item because of the DoT on his W.
Ingame, I have not one, but THREE different people (one of my friends among them) calling me out on my build.
Boots start into Philo-->HoG-->Merc's-->Wit's and I was 1/0/2 at this point.
"Who gets fucking Wit's End on Nautilus?"

Am I doing something wrong? I didn't get glacial or Aegis yet because our team was lacking damage more than anything....
Like wtf I didn't think I was that off in my item builds...I never get called out for that shit.

SOMEONE VALIDATE MEEEE (Or shut me down and tell me I'm a fucking idiot)

Wit's isn't bad but secret OP is actually Nashor's Tooth. Not joking.

Very intriguing. Would you just swap Wit's with Nashor's in the build order or stay with stinger for a while, finish Frozen or buy negatron? I'm a bit scared to not be tanky enough without the MR from Wit's.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
cpomz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States76 Posts
June 08 2012 08:43 GMT
#594
Does anyone else think draven could be really good top kinda like an ad kennen - using w and e to disengage while harassing the enemy with q?
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 08:58:16
June 08 2012 08:56 GMT
#595
On June 08 2012 14:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 14:47 wussleeQ wrote:
making a new computer within the next few days . Finally going to be able to stream and also play the game on max settings instead of all very low. This should be fun.

I'M DOING THE SAME THING YAY

HIGH FIVEEEEEE :D too bad my excuse for sucking is now limited to just lag instead of blaming my computer and lag.

And I don't get how you guys think varus is boring he perfectly fits my playstyle :D
BW -> League -> CSGO
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
June 08 2012 08:57 GMT
#596
On June 08 2012 17:34 bokeevboke wrote:
Varus, Darius and Draven are all boring. Riot, please don't make a champ for the sake of making a champ.


How is Draven boring? And although I haven't played Darius, he looks quite fun too.

Varus I can see how you would think he's boring but Draven boring.. seriously? Global ult, juggling mechanic, moves fast. Dude is the opposite of boring.

Retvrn to Forvms
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 10:00:28
June 08 2012 09:23 GMT
#597
Yeah, when riot released a bunch of shit that all had aoe dmg Ws, that was uncreative.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 10:24:33
June 08 2012 10:23 GMT
#598
On June 08 2012 17:43 cpomz wrote:
Does anyone else think draven could be really good top kinda like an ad kennen - using w and e to disengage while harassing the enemy with q?


It sounds good in theory but the problem with running draven top is he has no way to hard disengage. Kennen can stun anyone that gets onto him, vlad can pool out, swain has a slow + snare, even the AD carries that can run top (graves/vayne/corki) you have dashes and/or knockbacks (graves has a blind+slow as well). If the jungler with red buff shows up, draven is going to have to blow flash or die. His E isn't nearly enough of a disable to prevent a bruiser from crushing his face in.
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 10:27:55
June 08 2012 10:26 GMT
#599
On June 08 2012 17:57 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 17:34 bokeevboke wrote:
Varus, Darius and Draven are all boring. Riot, please don't make a champ for the sake of making a champ.


How is Draven boring? And although I haven't played Darius, he looks quite fun too.

Varus I can see how you would think he's boring but Draven boring.. seriously? Global ult, juggling mechanic, moves fast. Dude is the opposite of boring.



You can draw some paralels:
Fiora = Yi,
Darius = Garen,
Varus, Cait, MF, Draven are all the same.

I want something new, in the lines of Nidalee or Lee Sin. You can play these champs in many different ways and find yourself in some epic moments.
For example, in case of Draven, when you're in danger you just activate "move fast" mode and run away. But you could do it in more fun way with lee sin and nidalee. Juking in bushes with nidalee or using ward to jump accross the wall with lee sin.

The other day I was playing lee sin and we got in the phase when teamfights are about to happen. Each team runs around in the jungle to find a better position for teamfight. I blindly launch my Q and find Fiddle somewhere between them, I follow with jump. E and Ult-kick him right into my team, then W-jump back to my team. And its 4v5 now, with their main AP dead. That was awesome, and I never felt that great even when I did some epic quadras with other champs.
Its grack
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 11:02:35
June 08 2012 11:02 GMT
#600
On June 08 2012 15:24 UniversalSnip wrote:
chu was the evangalist for nashor's tooth naut, been building it since his release

I'm pretty sure my friend wappa chang mang actually co-pioneered that with chu

[edit] if not outright invented it [/edit]
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
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