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the only interesting+good support that isn't a bruiser is janna and she keeps getting nerfed to match up with the fucking boring ones like soraka...
I like playing the bruisers though. I just wish the others weren't so dull.
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On July 04 2012 13:59 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 13:41 Shikyo wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. This experiment proves that last pick = support even among 1800 elos, even if you say that you are terrible at support with an average win rate of 22% with support champions, and when you play terribly as support they will report you. It's too bad, the Graves game I went 7-2 and the Poppy top game I went 13-5, both vs 1700-1800s Oh but it's hilarious how angry some people are <_< And also there was some eve main at 1900 elo who beat karthus mid in farm... Eve new karthus counter? Eve can beat anyone in lane except a heavy mixed damage dealer. to do so it takes two rune pages though,, 1 for vs magic 1 for vs physical. She's kind of a bitch to lane against if the eve knows what they are doing. However, eves usefulness drops off considerably if camped if the game makes it past laning phase if the enemy team is intelligent. and unfortunately you only need two of the three.
what are you talking about lol
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On July 04 2012 14:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 13:59 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 13:41 Shikyo wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. This experiment proves that last pick = support even among 1800 elos, even if you say that you are terrible at support with an average win rate of 22% with support champions, and when you play terribly as support they will report you. It's too bad, the Graves game I went 7-2 and the Poppy top game I went 13-5, both vs 1700-1800s Oh but it's hilarious how angry some people are <_< And also there was some eve main at 1900 elo who beat karthus mid in farm... Eve new karthus counter? Eve can beat anyone in lane except a heavy mixed damage dealer. to do so it takes two rune pages though,, 1 for vs magic 1 for vs physical. She's kind of a bitch to lane against if the eve knows what they are doing. However, eves usefulness drops off considerably if camped if the game makes it past laning phase if the enemy team is intelligent. and unfortunately you only need two of the three. what are you talking about lol
He's talking about Eve's viability, clearly apparent from his post.
What's the point of your post? Oh I know, to bash others, like your past ~50 posts.
Also judging by that person, Eve's viable enough to get to 1900 elo ~
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On July 04 2012 11:41 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 11:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 04 2012 11:15 overt wrote:On July 04 2012 10:46 IMoperator wrote:
Does annie have the best burst DPS out of all AP mids? That's who I've been using and it's really fun to just go Q-W-R and instantly kill someone lol. By the numbers you could probably find tons of champions who, numerically speaking, have higher burst than her. But in terms of just sheer AoE burst she does it more reliably than pretty much everyone. I think only like Orianna can realistically rival her in terms of AoE burst. Even if Fiddlesticks or Malzahar or something else technically has more burst damage those two do it a lot more reliably. Also ideal Annie combo is R-Q-W-Q or W-Q-R-Q. Q has travel time so you typically don't wanna lead with it, much better to lead with one of you insta-stuns (especially R since it does AoE dps). I did a rough calculation of this a little while ago for most AP champs. Don't think Annie was top 5. Edit: Found it.
Can't tell if sarcastic, but yes, I agree. His burst combo requires a little more than say, Vik/Annie or any of the other massive burst level 6 combos from APs, but I believe his does the most damage?
His poke is alright too, it's just having to root yourself for the same range as Ziggs level insane poke kinda sucks.
Edit: Level 6 Xerath = 600 + 3.1*AP burst if you hit all your spells.
Level 6 Ahri (Assuming max Q first) = 620 + 2.66*AP if you hit everything on the same target.
Level 6 Annie = not even close. Even with Tibbers AoE and attack damage.
Level 6 Viktor = 740 + 3.65*AP if your storm stays on target for full duration. Not unreasonable.
Hmm....gonna go through the rest of these but I think Viktor may win the level 6 burst combo. (I'm not going to include Cassiopeia because she is always hands down going to come up #1 if you can Hit R-->Q/W--> E spam for a few secs. Also won't include Ryze because he doesn't really have a 'burst,' per se.)
For most of these I am assuming level 3 of commonly maxed skill (ie Ziggs - bouncing Bomb, Annie - Disintegrate, etc) and 1 point in every other skill.
Level 6 Ziggs = 685 + 3.4*AP however, this is assuming the champion in question is sitting in the middle of your giant bomb explosion AND runs over every single mine you drop, so in reality this will be lower (both AP multiplier and damage).
Level 6 Vlad = 510 + 1.75*AP assuming you get 4 Tides of Blood stacks and sit on them for whole pool duration.
Level 6 Gragas = 465 + 2.4*AP (and a little bit of damage from AD)
Level 6 Brand = 806+ 3.45*AP + Blaze damage (Assuming of course that you hit Pillar after Conflag and you miraculously have one enemy minion to bounce Pyroclasm off of to hit enemy champ 3 times. In reality, much lower.)
Level 6 Veigar = 540 + 2.8*AP + 0.8 enemy*AP
Level 6 Kennen = 545 + 3.1*AP + a couple autos I guess for stun combo/W passive. This is a really good one because it's essentially all guaranteed damage with the stun so in reality the number is somewhere above 600.
Level 6 Malzahar = 530 + 2.9*AP + whatever damage done from Nullzone. (Assuming E max, I guess) Also a huge combo.
Level 6 Morgana = 705 + 3.3*AP (assuming W max) another huge one.
Not 100% sure why I did this but it's still interesting to see. Anyone I forgot?
Yeh, I know that her numerical burst isn't that high. But she's not a single target burst assassin. She's an AoE burst mage. Assume she hits five people with her R and W, I don't think anyone else comes close to her damage output in a single spell rotation. Which is why I said she does more AoE burst and does it more reliably than pretty much any champion (except maybe Ori).
Xerath does much more AOE burst damage, and it gets bigger as the game goes on.
Annie maxed does 780+1.6AP of AOE (being generous with tibber AOE) with an added single target spell, at 625 range
Xerath just his ult maxed does 825+1.8AP of AOE (with a larger radius), then he has his Q AOE and a single target, at 1000 range minimum (up to 1300 range with just ult). And he has free 30% magic pen.
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On July 04 2012 14:20 Goragoth wrote:
I will never understand why people hate playing support so much. Definitely my favourite role right now.
Oh my God, support is my favorite role in the game. However, I hate supporting randoms because they can either be bad or not able to sync with you properly.
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On July 04 2012 13:35 Dgiese wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 12:49 SnK-Arcbound wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. I had someone do this, but then he had the 1500 play eve, camp top instead of supporting bottom, and proceed to feed top, while bottom lane lost. He quit the game not too long before we lost, and I know he was reported by a bunch of people. Not a very good way to queue with someone higher than you. Also apparently malphite+eve doesn't beat irelia. Yo, update the nunu thread with your thoughts on him when the new patch comes out, if you please.
That's not hard. He gets 29% more free spells (if the PBE patch notes are the real patch notes). You don't level q anyways and are now getting even more power from it at lvl 1, meaning your invading will be 200 hp and 2 seconds faster. There still is no point in counter jungling with nunu because you don't level q after level 1, but now you can jungle faster.You won't be nearly as mana dependent, so if you happen to get one of nunu's few poor jungle matchups you can keep up in levels easier.
When the patch notes like 2 patches ago said q was getting 2 seconds off I was incredibly happy, but now they're adding 2 other buffs on top of it? Too OP, nunu's early level q cd was what was limiting his ability to farm compared to almost any other jungler.
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Best troll lane ever. Blitz + alistar, blitz gets cs, ali support. DAT BURST COMBO tooo goood.
Also, i've been playing support lee sin, pretty funny w/ graves. He quick draws in, shield onto graves, land Q, kick, cripple. 
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Actually Annie is an AoE stunner, it's an initiation / counterinitiation move. No one seriously would give two shits about her burst if Tibbers couldn't AoE stun.
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On July 04 2012 15:03 wei2coolman wrote:Best troll lane ever. Blitz + alistar, blitz gets cs, ali support. DAT BURST COMBO tooo goood. Also, i've been playing support lee sin, pretty funny w/ graves. He quick draws in, shield onto graves, land Q, kick, cripple.
Yorick+Zilean more obnoxious. Cant even tower hug because double bombed Ghouls OP as shit.
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On July 04 2012 14:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 13:59 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 13:41 Shikyo wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. This experiment proves that last pick = support even among 1800 elos, even if you say that you are terrible at support with an average win rate of 22% with support champions, and when you play terribly as support they will report you. It's too bad, the Graves game I went 7-2 and the Poppy top game I went 13-5, both vs 1700-1800s Oh but it's hilarious how angry some people are <_< And also there was some eve main at 1900 elo who beat karthus mid in farm... Eve new karthus counter? Eve can beat anyone in lane except a heavy mixed damage dealer. to do so it takes two rune pages though,, 1 for vs magic 1 for vs physical. She's kind of a bitch to lane against if the eve knows what they are doing. However, eves usefulness drops off considerably if camped if the game makes it past laning phase if the enemy team is intelligent. and unfortunately you only need two of the three. what are you talking about lol
Eve building tanky can right click the enemy and win every lane, she's just such a terrible character outside of that ability that it's not worth it. she does have the best attack animation in the game though.
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On July 04 2012 15:49 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 14:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:On July 04 2012 13:59 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 13:41 Shikyo wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. This experiment proves that last pick = support even among 1800 elos, even if you say that you are terrible at support with an average win rate of 22% with support champions, and when you play terribly as support they will report you. It's too bad, the Graves game I went 7-2 and the Poppy top game I went 13-5, both vs 1700-1800s Oh but it's hilarious how angry some people are <_< And also there was some eve main at 1900 elo who beat karthus mid in farm... Eve new karthus counter? Eve can beat anyone in lane except a heavy mixed damage dealer. to do so it takes two rune pages though,, 1 for vs magic 1 for vs physical. She's kind of a bitch to lane against if the eve knows what they are doing. However, eves usefulness drops off considerably if camped if the game makes it past laning phase if the enemy team is intelligent. and unfortunately you only need two of the three. what are you talking about lol Eve building tanky can right click the enemy and win every lane, she's just such a terrible character outside of that ability that it's not worth it. she does have the best attack animation in the game though.
Have you ever played Xin?
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On July 04 2012 15:54 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 15:49 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 14:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:On July 04 2012 13:59 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 13:41 Shikyo wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. This experiment proves that last pick = support even among 1800 elos, even if you say that you are terrible at support with an average win rate of 22% with support champions, and when you play terribly as support they will report you. It's too bad, the Graves game I went 7-2 and the Poppy top game I went 13-5, both vs 1700-1800s Oh but it's hilarious how angry some people are <_< And also there was some eve main at 1900 elo who beat karthus mid in farm... Eve new karthus counter? Eve can beat anyone in lane except a heavy mixed damage dealer. to do so it takes two rune pages though,, 1 for vs magic 1 for vs physical. She's kind of a bitch to lane against if the eve knows what they are doing. However, eves usefulness drops off considerably if camped if the game makes it past laning phase if the enemy team is intelligent. and unfortunately you only need two of the three. what are you talking about lol Eve building tanky can right click the enemy and win every lane, she's just such a terrible character outside of that ability that it's not worth it. she does have the best attack animation in the game though. Have you ever played Xin?
not sure what you are referencing.
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On July 04 2012 15:49 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 14:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:On July 04 2012 13:59 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 13:41 Shikyo wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. This experiment proves that last pick = support even among 1800 elos, even if you say that you are terrible at support with an average win rate of 22% with support champions, and when you play terribly as support they will report you. It's too bad, the Graves game I went 7-2 and the Poppy top game I went 13-5, both vs 1700-1800s Oh but it's hilarious how angry some people are <_< And also there was some eve main at 1900 elo who beat karthus mid in farm... Eve new karthus counter? Eve can beat anyone in lane except a heavy mixed damage dealer. to do so it takes two rune pages though,, 1 for vs magic 1 for vs physical. She's kind of a bitch to lane against if the eve knows what they are doing. However, eves usefulness drops off considerably if camped if the game makes it past laning phase if the enemy team is intelligent. and unfortunately you only need two of the three. what are you talking about lol Eve building tanky can right click the enemy and win every lane, she's just such a terrible character outside of that ability that it's not worth it. she does have the best attack animation in the game though.
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You have to be trolling dude. Eve's base stats suck and she is melee...
I'd like to see an Eve right cick on like any lane and win a lane. I mean, her E is really strong but she has like zero lane sustain. Absolutely zero. If she getting W she has no stats, if she getting Q she just flat out lose to every other champ, and if she getting E she can only trade twice before she 100% oom.
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On July 04 2012 15:49 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 14:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:On July 04 2012 13:59 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 13:41 Shikyo wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. This experiment proves that last pick = support even among 1800 elos, even if you say that you are terrible at support with an average win rate of 22% with support champions, and when you play terribly as support they will report you. It's too bad, the Graves game I went 7-2 and the Poppy top game I went 13-5, both vs 1700-1800s Oh but it's hilarious how angry some people are <_< And also there was some eve main at 1900 elo who beat karthus mid in farm... Eve new karthus counter? Eve can beat anyone in lane except a heavy mixed damage dealer. to do so it takes two rune pages though,, 1 for vs magic 1 for vs physical. She's kind of a bitch to lane against if the eve knows what they are doing. However, eves usefulness drops off considerably if camped if the game makes it past laning phase if the enemy team is intelligent. and unfortunately you only need two of the three. what are you talking about lol Eve building tanky can right click the enemy and win every lane, she's just such a terrible character outside of that ability that it's not worth it. she does have the best attack animation in the game though.
Eve has horrible base stats, weak base damages, and prohibitive mana costs on her skills. Eve also has zero sustain. How could she possibly beat a W or E maxing Lee Sin. Lee Sin would straight up out trade her, then sustain it all back in while Eve has to back. I couldn't even imagine Eve trying to lane against Udyr or WW.
There is no way what you said is true. I would love to see Eve try and right click Garen, Fizz, or Darius and somehow win that trade.
Edit: iCanada read my mind :D
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On July 04 2012 15:49 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 14:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:On July 04 2012 13:59 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 13:41 Shikyo wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. This experiment proves that last pick = support even among 1800 elos, even if you say that you are terrible at support with an average win rate of 22% with support champions, and when you play terribly as support they will report you. It's too bad, the Graves game I went 7-2 and the Poppy top game I went 13-5, both vs 1700-1800s Oh but it's hilarious how angry some people are <_< And also there was some eve main at 1900 elo who beat karthus mid in farm... Eve new karthus counter? Eve can beat anyone in lane except a heavy mixed damage dealer. to do so it takes two rune pages though,, 1 for vs magic 1 for vs physical. She's kind of a bitch to lane against if the eve knows what they are doing. However, eves usefulness drops off considerably if camped if the game makes it past laning phase if the enemy team is intelligent. and unfortunately you only need two of the three. what are you talking about lol Eve building tanky can right click the enemy and win every lane, she's just such a terrible character outside of that ability that it's not worth it. she does have the best attack animation in the game though.
Back this up with replays and proof. You're basically saying Eve is tanky right-click dps and she has the worst base stats for that.
Either that, or stop trolling before you get warned/banned for terrible posting.
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On July 04 2012 15:31 Shikyo wrote:
Actually Annie is an AoE stunner, it's an initiation / counterinitiation move. No one seriously would give two shits about her burst if Tibbers couldn't AoE stun.
Pretty much. Annie Stun wins games. If she's fed her damage can win, but in close games, a good stun followed by an ok stun will win the teamfight.
As for the eve thing, the claim is that she can take no creep damage so she wins lane. To be completely fair, as kayle, I can often auto attack my enemies for damage without taking creep damage. Sometimes they just don't aggro for some reason. And if eve is up against any ranged champ with a pink ward, she can't do her creep trick.
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It's like these trolls aren't even trying anymore. Where's inept when we need him.
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On July 04 2012 15:56 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 15:49 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 14:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:On July 04 2012 13:59 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 13:41 Shikyo wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. This experiment proves that last pick = support even among 1800 elos, even if you say that you are terrible at support with an average win rate of 22% with support champions, and when you play terribly as support they will report you. It's too bad, the Graves game I went 7-2 and the Poppy top game I went 13-5, both vs 1700-1800s Oh but it's hilarious how angry some people are <_< And also there was some eve main at 1900 elo who beat karthus mid in farm... Eve new karthus counter? Eve can beat anyone in lane except a heavy mixed damage dealer. to do so it takes two rune pages though,, 1 for vs magic 1 for vs physical. She's kind of a bitch to lane against if the eve knows what they are doing. However, eves usefulness drops off considerably if camped if the game makes it past laning phase if the enemy team is intelligent. and unfortunately you only need two of the three. what are you talking about lol Eve building tanky can right click the enemy and win every lane, she's just such a terrible character outside of that ability that it's not worth it. she does have the best attack animation in the game though. .... You have to be trolling dude. Eve's base stats suck and she is melee... I'd like to see an Eve right cick on like any lane and win a lane. I mean, her E is really strong but she has like zero lane sustain. Absolutely zero. If she getting W she has no stats, if she getting Q she just flat out lose to every other champ, and if she getting E she can only trade twice before she 100% oom.
As I said she won a lane vs a 1800 elo karthus in the game I played o_O
On July 04 2012 15:58 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 15:49 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 14:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:On July 04 2012 13:59 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 13:41 Shikyo wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. This experiment proves that last pick = support even among 1800 elos, even if you say that you are terrible at support with an average win rate of 22% with support champions, and when you play terribly as support they will report you. It's too bad, the Graves game I went 7-2 and the Poppy top game I went 13-5, both vs 1700-1800s Oh but it's hilarious how angry some people are <_< And also there was some eve main at 1900 elo who beat karthus mid in farm... Eve new karthus counter? Eve can beat anyone in lane except a heavy mixed damage dealer. to do so it takes two rune pages though,, 1 for vs magic 1 for vs physical. She's kind of a bitch to lane against if the eve knows what they are doing. However, eves usefulness drops off considerably if camped if the game makes it past laning phase if the enemy team is intelligent. and unfortunately you only need two of the three. what are you talking about lol Eve building tanky can right click the enemy and win every lane, she's just such a terrible character outside of that ability that it's not worth it. she does have the best attack animation in the game though. Back this up with replays and proof. You're basically saying Eve is tanky right-click dps and she has the worst base stats for that. Either that, or stop trolling before you get warned/banned for terrible posting.
She has perfect synergy with Triforce, along with E armor penetration having synergy with Trinity Force as well. In addition she gets a lot of free DPS with her ult and Q, so she can afford to build tanky.
Really, back then she was overpowered as tanky DPS and all they changed was change ult to give 75% aspd from 100%, pretty much. She can still do the exact same thing, just worse (She's not completely viable but you can still play her and make good use of her if you are the better player)
Also it's true that she takes no dmg from minions, are people arguing this fact?
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On July 04 2012 15:58 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 15:49 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 14:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:On July 04 2012 13:59 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 04 2012 13:41 Shikyo wrote:On July 04 2012 12:19 Scip wrote:
Damn guys, duoQing with Shykio atm, haven't had this hilarious games in a while. Carrying is so easy but we gain only 4-8 elo each game hahaha. Reccoment everyone who is 2K+ to duoQ with someone at 1300-1500 range. This experiment proves that last pick = support even among 1800 elos, even if you say that you are terrible at support with an average win rate of 22% with support champions, and when you play terribly as support they will report you. It's too bad, the Graves game I went 7-2 and the Poppy top game I went 13-5, both vs 1700-1800s Oh but it's hilarious how angry some people are <_< And also there was some eve main at 1900 elo who beat karthus mid in farm... Eve new karthus counter? Eve can beat anyone in lane except a heavy mixed damage dealer. to do so it takes two rune pages though,, 1 for vs magic 1 for vs physical. She's kind of a bitch to lane against if the eve knows what they are doing. However, eves usefulness drops off considerably if camped if the game makes it past laning phase if the enemy team is intelligent. and unfortunately you only need two of the three. what are you talking about lol Eve building tanky can right click the enemy and win every lane, she's just such a terrible character outside of that ability that it's not worth it. she does have the best attack animation in the game though. Back this up with replays and proof. You're basically saying Eve is tanky right-click dps and she has the worst base stats for that. Either that, or stop trolling before you get warned/banned for terrible posting.
...I explained it earlier, but daaamn why should people be bothered to read before threatening banning . lol
her passive lets you take literally 0 damage from minions, which lets you right click them mid wave, and they don't have a response because the minions deal enough damage to make any trade mid wave favorable.
nothing to do with anything more than defense masteries + armor/Mres to mitigate most of the damage from the enemy + eve passive = bully in lane.
But whatever explaining for the third time gets pretty damn boring, especially for people who don't read.
Especially when i never claimed eve was tanky, nor a good dps. but who care about facts when someone says stuff you don't like. lol
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Change of topic: Riot needs to start making champions that actually require mana management again. Just because a hero is a non-caster doesn't mean that you should completely void their need to manage mana.
Look at the last few champions released:
Draven: All flat mana costs. His 2 short-CD spells cost less than 50 mana apiece.
Darius: 3 flat mana costs, and 1 that scales by a measly 5 mana per rank.
Varus: 2 flat manacosts, 1 no mana cost, and 1 that scales by 5 mana per rank.
Instead of taking the approach of making these champs take effort to manage mana for, Riot seems to be taking the opposite approach of just trying to trivialize the mana costs of those champs that DO require mana management (e.g. the Lux and Ziggs buffs on PBE).
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