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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 03 2012 16:56 GMT
#4981
On July 04 2012 01:49 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 00:00 Mogwai wrote:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=14642327#43534

I lol'd.

lmfao

Lmao, why is he mad? He should be happy that he gets exposure, and also i didn't know Smashboards were still that active
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Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 03 2012 17:03 GMT
#4982
Looking past the Orianna changes I think this is a pretty good patch. Jungle alistar should struggle now without blue buff (thank god) and the Nautilus changes were definitely needed. I also like the QoL changes.. wards now have timers above them and you get a notification when you kill dragon (no more arguing over if it was stolen).
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 03 2012 17:04 GMT
#4983
On July 04 2012 01:54 thenexusp wrote:
Question: I have a friend who says that you should always get BF sword first (after boots/dorans/potions) as an AD carry, even skipping pickaxe if you are forced back with <1650 gold. Is this correct?

does he have some kind of reasoning behind this? Im not sure somebody with a pickaxe + vamp is even at a disadvantage vs somebody with a bf
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 03 2012 17:06 GMT
#4984
On July 04 2012 01:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 01:49 Kenpachi wrote:
On July 04 2012 00:00 Mogwai wrote:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=14642327#43534

I lol'd.

lmfao

Lmao, why is he mad? He should be happy that he gets exposure, and also i didn't know Smashboards were still that active


Apparently this community is dumb cause he uses crit reds on casters.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 17:16:38
July 03 2012 17:06 GMT
#4985
I'll give up auto and ICD buffs to get q and w changes reverted. (Orianna)
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 03 2012 17:07 GMT
#4986
I am totally lost where are you guys reading these patch notes
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
July 03 2012 17:09 GMT
#4987
On July 04 2012 02:07 Live2Win wrote:
I am totally lost where are you guys reading these patch notes

I just googled them and found something there:
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=755345
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 03 2012 17:09 GMT
#4988
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/20839-latest-public-beta-environment-patch-changes-jayce

That and I play on the PBE occasionally.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 03 2012 17:10 GMT
#4989
On July 04 2012 02:07 Live2Win wrote:
I am totally lost where are you guys reading these patch notes

Random stuff data-mined from the Public Beta Environment (PBE) which often contains assets for the next patch since Riot uses the PBE to stress and bug test future patches. That being said however, often PBE Patch Notes can be wrong so take them with a grain of salt.

Latest PBE Notes can be found here.
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Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
July 03 2012 17:14 GMT
#4990
On July 04 2012 02:07 Live2Win wrote:
I am totally lost where are you guys reading these patch notes

You can find the link on reditt always,it gets a lot of attention and up votes so it's usually there on the front page the same day reignofgaming or some other site release the data.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 03 2012 17:22 GMT
#4991
Man I am trying LB out cause she always looked interesting and the experience just made me feel so bad lol :\ I am mechanically BAD at this game. There is some disconnect when it comes with what I WANT to do and what my fingers actually do. Like I know what to do for a certain combo but I rarely can actually perform it or I can but the timing is off.
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7230 Posts
July 03 2012 17:27 GMT
#4992
On July 04 2012 01:54 thenexusp wrote:
Question: I have a friend who says that you should always get BF sword first (after boots/dorans/potions) as an AD carry, even skipping pickaxe if you are forced back with <1650 gold. Is this correct?


He's completely wrong. If it's an even lane and you're forced back with over 1k in pocket and you're down a pickaxe on the other carry because you rigidly must get BF first, you're gonna get fucked.
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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
July 03 2012 17:27 GMT
#4993
On July 04 2012 02:22 Slaughter wrote:
Man I am trying LB out cause she always looked interesting and the experience just made me feel so bad lol :\ I am mechanically BAD at this game. There is some disconnect when it comes with what I WANT to do and what my fingers actually do. Like I know what to do for a certain combo but I rarely can actually perform it or I can but the timing is off.


My biggest problem with LB was always hitting the R at the right time. So often my target was just slightly out of range for Q after going in with W, so i ended up doubling my W instead of Q. In 90% of the cases it ended up with me dying because i suddenly stood next to my opponent, was confused for half a second and then took all of his burst damage at point blank range.

However, there is no better feeling than getting your whole combo right and insta-killing an opponent before he gets the chance to even autoattack and hearing his "LB OP" cries.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
July 03 2012 17:38 GMT
#4994
Really looking forward to playing LB and Akali again. Two of my favorite heroes for sure.

Who normally builds Athene's? I'm rusty and haven't played the game since it came out. Also, what are Darius and Draven's strengths and weaknesses?

If anyone could help me out I'd appreciate it!
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 03 2012 17:42 GMT
#4995
Common Athenes users: Galio, Swain, Orianna, Anivia, Veigar(?), Heimer, Ahri
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2012 17:44 GMT
#4996
On July 04 2012 02:38 Mondeezy wrote:
Really looking forward to playing LB and Akali again. Two of my favorite heroes for sure.

Who normally builds Athene's? I'm rusty and haven't played the game since it came out. Also, what are Darius and Draven's strengths and weaknesses?

If anyone could help me out I'd appreciate it!


Athene's, imo, is more for sustain damage mages (Swain), or for mages with more utility kits (Anivia, Galio) and can use the extra tankiness.

Last night I played 2 Orianna games against the same LB, and she rushed Athene's against me. It did not go well for her.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 17:47:12
July 03 2012 17:45 GMT
#4997
I make it on Swain/Ori. Ahri more situational.If I get ahead on Ori earily ( pre 6 gank or just opponent stupidity) then I got tear instead.
Carrilord has arrived.
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
July 03 2012 17:49 GMT
#4998
On July 04 2012 02:27 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 01:54 thenexusp wrote:
Question: I have a friend who says that you should always get BF sword first (after boots/dorans/potions) as an AD carry, even skipping pickaxe if you are forced back with <1650 gold. Is this correct?


He's completely wrong. If it's an even lane and you're forced back with over 1k in pocket and you're down a pickaxe on the other carry because you rigidly must get BF first, you're gonna get fucked.

If you're playing AD Ashe and going for an infinity edge, would it then (usually) be boots + 3 pots, doran's, and then pickaxe and then infinity edge?
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 03 2012 17:52 GMT
#4999
On July 03 2012 23:48 Alaric wrote:
I'd rather have Naut's W nerfed at higher levels (he still needs the early base to be able to clear quickly, E first is a lot slower and if you tried a level 2 gank with QE leading to a useless level 1 shield at level 3 you know how much of a pain it is to try and farm the jungle from 2 to 4 with him, unless you go camp and get xp through kills/tax). I don't like the dredge line cd nerf because I have a lot of fun with the spell's interaction with terrain, and making it barely usable more than once per teamfight for the biggest part of the game takes a lot of that fun, while not being able to solo squishies at level 9 with a recurve and full combo doesn't stop me from hitting people with the shield on to do some damage in teamfights, nor does it stop my jungling.

Those nerfs also affect Nautilane, both mid and top, while his problem was being depicted as his jungle. Nerfing W's damage, and his ult's, would reduce his burst and overall damage, without taking too much away from his tankiness/pushing power, nor making him unable to kill his opponent whoever he is.


Regarding CC, I'd consider his passive as a "hard" cc in terms of ganks, unless there's somebody like Janna involved, who can ruin your day with her spells alone. It never really bothered me though, as very often my passive would only trigger if I hit a Q, as a lot of champs move fast enough that they'll outrun not only you, but also your auto-attack animation (which is pretty fucking frustrating, think Ryze's W when you barely move faster than your opponent and are in W range, but need to run 7 more seconds to be in animaton-then-W-cast range), practically making you unable to root them, and thus to reach them.
The last couple of times I played him I've been ruined by that glitch which triggers Q even when there're people only behind you, so I may be biaised toward the effectiveness of his kit.


Nerfing W's later ranks doesn't address what makes Nautilus so strong. It's Nautilus' ability to completely lockdown and even reposition an opponent which makes his ganks so nasty.

The Q nerf is unnecessary. He rarely gets a second Q off during a gank as it stands. It's the ultimate nerf that really matters, and that's basically all you can do without fundamentally changing its mechanics.
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7230 Posts
July 03 2012 17:53 GMT
#5000
On July 04 2012 02:49 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 02:27 NovaTheFeared wrote:
On July 04 2012 01:54 thenexusp wrote:
Question: I have a friend who says that you should always get BF sword first (after boots/dorans/potions) as an AD carry, even skipping pickaxe if you are forced back with <1650 gold. Is this correct?


He's completely wrong. If it's an even lane and you're forced back with over 1k in pocket and you're down a pickaxe on the other carry because you rigidly must get BF first, you're gonna get fucked.

If you're playing AD Ashe and going for an infinity edge, would it then (usually) be boots + 3 pots, doran's, and then pickaxe and then infinity edge?


The point is not to substitute his friend's "must BF first" with "must pickaxe first". You buy what pieces you can afford when forced back, and try to stay in lane and get the more cost efficient pieces like BF if you can. In this way you don't return to lane with 800+ gold sitting on your character when it could be an item that helps you win lane.
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