EPTWell at least Lux got buffed.
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ManyCookies
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Well at least Lux got buffed. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On July 03 2012 16:54 TheLink wrote: So... another patch, another round of every support champ getting nerfed. Although I'm so psyched at the Sona buff I don't really care this time. 30% mana cost reduction is a lot of mana saved, might get to run armour seals instead of mana regen which strengthens lane immensely. It's a nice feeling when your favourite champ gets buffed isn't it. :D It's never happened to me before since all they do is nerf supports. I don't get why riot does this. I already hate playing supports enough as it is. Sure supports have good win ratios, but that's because they put wards down, and they play for the team. Not because the champions are "omfg overpowered can't have fun playing against them!" The only champs that qualify for that and get banned in low elo are soraka and blitzcrank and that's because sustain and grabs are what those champions do. Unless they're nerfing for the pro scene, in which case they screw over the majority of their player base, they're just making their game worse. On July 04 2012 02:53 NovaTheFeared wrote: The point is not to substitute his friend's "must BF first" with "must pickaxe first". You buy what pieces you can afford when forced back, and try to stay in lane and get the more cost efficient pieces like BF if you can. In this way you don't return to lane with 800+ gold sitting on your character when it could be an item that helps you win lane. If I'm far ahead and have 1650 gold on my first buyback, I just get 3 doran's and stop my enemy from farming. Pickaxe isn't that much less efficient than BF. | ||
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samthesaluki
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 04 2012 03:38 samthesaluki wrote: Did they not nerf kennen ad last patch in dmg now range nerf lame i felt that the dmg nerf made most of kennens matchups more balanced enough i feel this nerf is too harsh like i usually pick kennen to counter darius top and my team rage tell me darius owns kennen but then i win lane but now to auto i have no range so if i go to auto i will get hooked and smashed even by 1 of the lowest range cc. Holy shit what. On topic... I think nerfing AD Kennen is fine. In my mind, it's alright to have multiple ways to build something, and AD Ken is one of those. But when he's just as good or better than champions that were actually designed to be AD carries, something seems off. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 04 2012 04:12 Requizen wrote: Holy shit what. On topic... I think nerfing AD Kennen is fine. In my mind, it's alright to have multiple ways to build something, and AD Ken is one of those. But when he's just as good or better than champions that were actually designed to be AD carries, something seems off. The danger of AD Kennen is that it makes him way too powerful as a pick. If AD Kennen is super-viable then Kennen cannot be counterpicked. | ||
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Alzadar
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Requizen
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samthesaluki
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Harassing anybody with impunity and the ability to truck with a W-passive-W active followed by either a dash or a shuriken if you made the slightest mistake about exposing yourself... that was way to punishing for how safe the damn midget is. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 04 2012 04:23 samthesaluki wrote: Your missing point i dont care about dmg nerf but range nerf really hurts and it hurst ap kennen not just ad because autos help for your w proc. And AP Ken isn't already strong enough? This puts his auto range in line with nearly every other mage in the game (aside from Ziggs, Anivia, Annie, and Zilean), and thanks to W they're already stronger than most other mage autoattacks. Now he'll just get less free harass. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On July 04 2012 04:21 Alzadar wrote: I can't decide if the Akali buff is meaningful. As it is Crescent Slash is one of the most useless abilities in the game (I guess it allows you to push, but when fighting a champion it is bad to use because you'll run out of energy), but I'm not sure if the buffs are enough to make it valuable. It is meaningful. E proccing the marks basically gives back the energy that you lost and reducing the energy costs on it overall is also a huge bonus. | ||
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samthesaluki
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On July 04 2012 04:35 samthesaluki wrote: Kennen in a 1 v 1 fight is weaker than nearly every mage ap. I recall there being a solomid tourney (1v1 LoL) a while back where the two finalists were both kennen. Hilarity ensued as kennens died at the same time and the judges used the announcer text to tell who won. So no. I don't think kennen is a bad duelist. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On July 04 2012 04:35 samthesaluki wrote: Kennen in a 1 v 1 fight is weaker than nearly every mage ap. Considering Kennens base stats he can just max W and right click on the enemy mage. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6221 Posts
Some of the buffs/nerfs are incorrect. I wanted to just throw this up before people got too outraged about stuff that's not happening. Edit:: Main thing I take away is that caitlyn's E is going to be closer to a reverse graves quickdraw and her ultimate is going to be much harder to block. As far as MF's double up goes, I don't play her enough to know for sure but I see it as a buff to her Q and a major buff to her E. The double-up thing is similar to tristana's E in that although lol wiki had the range at 600+, it actually wasn't so in game. I was always maxing W on orianna even prior to any changes that're coming out for the damage burst combo'd with her R. Unless there are actually going to be cooldown reductions on Q, it's a nerf to her overall damage since Q is up far more often than W. She already wasn't the strongest in terms of burst out there and she's getting even weaker. The responsiveness of the ball is a big improvement, but i'd take the old version over the new because sacrificing that much damage just isn't worth it to me. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
It's fine to use the data mined for discussion but don't get outraged (or too excited) over something that isn't guaranteed. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Shadowpostin
Germany798 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
So allegedly,the boss of Moscow 5 just got arrested by the FBI for cyber crime lol. Somehow i'm not surprised >< | ||
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