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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:40 Chrispy wrote: Early game brah. Right but then I assume you use full apen runes for best effect, but that then makes the LW quite suboptimal. Then again, at like 2300 gold and 40 AD, it might still be the most cost-effective item for apen even if the remaining 40% penetration is rather tiny. Also as a sidenote I played vs a 750 armor malphite, pretty crazy to think that even with LW it was over 400 | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:42 Shikyo wrote: Right but then I assume you use full apen runes for best effect, but that then makes the LW quite suboptimal. Then again, at like 2300 gold and 40 AD, it might still be the most cost-effective item for apen even if the remaining 40% penetration is rather tiny. Also as a sidenote I played vs a 750 armor malphite, pretty crazy to think that even with LW it was over 400 I cannot imagine that thing dying at all. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
By the way, on Urgot you build Bruta -> Frozen Heart -> GA -> Maw -> ? Or is that the build people generally consider the most viable? | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
To use one of those modern expressions: A wild AP carry appears... it's super effective. With 750 armor there is no way to build much magic resistance or health, there is no way that malphite would survive a direct encounter with almost any ap carry. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:26 Shikyo wrote: Doesn't Fizz do that and the rest of the game about 478329473928 times better? Actually no fizz takes 5-10 damage/shot from the first wave. evelynn takes actually 0. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
I mostly stopped playing her because when i got counterpicked or had a bad game, the team flamed twice as hard because of "troll pick". Maybe with the buffs i'll get a chance to pick her back up. | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:14 Morfildur wrote: To use one of those modern expressions: A wild AP carry appears... it's super effective. With 750 armor there is no way to build much magic resistance or health, there is no way that malphite would survive a direct encounter with almost any ap carry. What if 750 armor Malphite initiates on the AP carry first? With Unstoppable Force it's pretty easy. Also, an AP carry blowing their CDs on Malph is an AP carry not blowing CDs on the enemy carries. There are lots of possibilities to bring up in a case by case basis, but man, it forces the AP carry to make the decision which can be hard if the Malph has a team right behind him. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:39 Morfildur wrote: LeBlanc was my favourite champion before my break a few month ago. No other champion caused so much rage when i jumped under the tower, combo'd for a kill and then jumped back before the opponents could react or jumped over a wall, QRE, kill & jumped back into safety. I mostly stopped playing her because when i got counterpicked or had a bad game, the team flamed twice as hard because of "troll pick". Maybe with the buffs i'll get a chance to pick her back up. I think part of the reason why LB fell out was the rise of MR runes. If you come to lane with 50+MR, you are quite unlikely to be combo'd by LB, and a large portion of LB's power comes from a snowballing lane phase. That said a fed LB is still one of the scariest things to be around. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Shadowpostin
Germany798 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On July 02 2012 19:37 Shadowpostin wrote: I don't understand how they can acknowledge global ults as too strong and than flat out ignore TF with the nerfs.... They ignored noct also, because their ults aren't global anymore. | ||
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Shadowpostin
Germany798 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 02 2012 19:37 Shadowpostin wrote: I don't understand how they can acknowledge global ults as too strong and than flat out ignore TF with the nerfs.... You can probably argue that they forgot Ezreal/Draven.... | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 02 2012 19:46 Shadowpostin wrote: Nocturnes ult is like half the range of a TF ult.Yea,it's not "global" but 5500 range is not much of a handicap for a mid lane that can instantly clear a creep wave and than just go wander off a few steps away from the lane to gank your ass. nocturne ults range is laughably small at low ranks, hardly global worthy. same with tf(except his is kinda ehh to begin with) not nearly as bad as it once was | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
i still think nerfin both the Q range and R cd was completely unnecessary. | ||
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
On July 02 2012 20:14 Ryuu314 wrote: im sad no kass nerf reverts :[ i still think nerfin both the Q range and R cd was completely unnecessary. What made you think they would revert those nerfs? They were done awhile ago and it is rare for riot to flat out undo what they have done in a live balance patch. | ||
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
Karthus > Press button for damage, can only be countered by CC on a Karthus during the channel, If this happens you deserve to be interupted because only a terrible player would put themself in that sort of position outside of clutch flash->cc plays. Soraka > Press button for heal. Cannot be countered unless Soraka is CC'd or dead. Shen > Press button (and click an ally) for Shield and tele. Can only be countered by CC on Shen as he channels. Gangplank > Press button and click to lay a big AoE slow and damage area. The other global ults (Ashe, Ezreal, Draven) are all projectile based skill shots. They can be countered by dodging. It seems to me that Riot looked at the global skills and did a checklist: Fountain to Fountain? It is a true global skill. How is the skill used? -> Press button for skill effect: This has few counters, we think it needs a change. -> Is it a projectile based skillshot? Not inherantly imbalanced, players can dodge these. Riot obviously didn't change TF (and Panth & Nocturne to a smaller extent) because while they have long range, they are not truly global. | ||
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