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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2012 16:58 GMT
#4521
On July 02 2012 01:48 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 01:45 Shikyo wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:12 beefhamburger wrote:
If only it was pulsefire Ez.


seriously, doublelift makes the best fucking plays I've ever seen. Seriously, if that was anyone else, they would've just straight up arcane shifted + flashed' out. BUT NOPE. MAN MODE. Waits till last possible second to flash into bush, INSTA-gibs the MF, then walks out and fights j4 like a boss.

Most people wouldn't have double dorans and Zerkers and IE at 15:30 either, though, and most people probably wouldn't hit that one 25% chance crit(Though he did have 2 chances) that saves them vs MF.

yea it was pretty impressive, not many players can do that, sure. but to be fair he was 5-0 prior to that play. Not to mention J4 waited a really long time to ult and missed his first knock-up.

I'm pretty sure j4 waited on ult for dl's flash to be burnt.
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 01 2012 17:02 GMT
#4522
On July 02 2012 01:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 01:48 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:45 Shikyo wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:12 beefhamburger wrote:
If only it was pulsefire Ez.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owIwn84mRPE

seriously, doublelift makes the best fucking plays I've ever seen. Seriously, if that was anyone else, they would've just straight up arcane shifted + flashed' out. BUT NOPE. MAN MODE. Waits till last possible second to flash into bush, INSTA-gibs the MF, then walks out and fights j4 like a boss.

Most people wouldn't have double dorans and Zerkers and IE at 15:30 either, though, and most people probably wouldn't hit that one 25% chance crit(Though he did have 2 chances) that saves them vs MF.

yea it was pretty impressive, not many players can do that, sure. but to be fair he was 5-0 prior to that play. Not to mention J4 waited a really long time to ult and missed his first knock-up.

I'm pretty sure j4 waited on ult for dl's flash to be burnt.

He'd have killed DL if he ulted as soon as he gained vision of him in the brush. He waited just long enough for Janna to get in range
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
July 01 2012 17:15 GMT
#4523
going boots 4 pots is countered by the top team's solo top going cloth 5 pots and stealing the golums. He'll get to level 3 before the 4 pot boots solo top gets to level 2. Its why lee sin is such a super strong solo top team pick for pro teams who get the top position on the map.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 01 2012 17:35 GMT
#4524
holy shit @Scarra stream. Korean voice acting too good.
Carrilord has arrived.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
July 01 2012 17:39 GMT
#4525
Skilly never fails to impress.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 01 2012 17:47 GMT
#4526
I wonder what the over/under on Tuesday being new champ is. Probably not, since we haven't heard anything nor seen him on PBE, but it has been nearly a month since Draven.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2012 17:51 GMT
#4527
wow, scarra's stream is so good right now. his sultry silky voice explaining every step he's doing. its awesome.
liftlift > tsm
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 01 2012 18:13 GMT
#4528
On July 02 2012 01:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 00:52 nmbr wrote:
Hey hey, quick lvl 27 player question - what's the best way to cut your losses in a bad laning matchup? I've been spamming Akali in blind pick normals and keep getting matched against Renekton (clue me in if there is a way to counter Ren w/ Akali, I haven't found it yet). I've got into the habit of just farming under tower as best as I can with the intent of letting the tower fall to free me up for roaming. Push my lane out until I meet resistance, then try to start unfair fights in other ppls lanes and prune any untended jungle camps - return to lane when it's near my 2nd tower again. It's working out pretty well, but I know there is a definite loss of cs in my lane and I can't always rely on my jungler leaving his camps uncleared. I wouldn't do this mid, btw.

I'm enjoying learning first hand why some matchups are no-goes, way better than reading some list on a forum. Just don't wanna pick up bad habits. What's the consensus?

Also, first post. Sup.

First and foremost, welcome to the TL LoL community, we hope you like it here!

I've personally become a big fan of running gp10, when losing lane, and trying to last hit under turret.

So as far as the akali vs renekton lane, you probably have very low kill potential against him, just due to his nature of his tankiness.

I'd probably approach it this way, start boot-3pot, see how the lane turns out. If I'm getting faced smashed in, and can't get that much farm, I start buying HoG, Kage's lucky pick, both good items, that give both stats and gp10. Now at this point you've pretty much said "FUCK IT, I'm not going to bother fucking killing you, I'm just going to make more gold than you, and become more useful in team fighting phase" Then think about getting really cost effective items, such as sheen and phage, hell you might want to just buy madreds razor just for better last hitting and some armor. Hopefully you'll be able to ride out mid game by playing like a panzy, and farming, and eventually you'll find yourself with a larger gold pool than your opponent.

i don't mean to resurrect the specter of gp5 discussions but i find that when you are losing your lane going gp5 is typically disastrous. If you've fed your opponent a real item and you're sitting in lane with a hog and an amplifying tone you aren't even going to be able to get experience.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2012 18:16 GMT
#4529
On July 02 2012 03:13 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 01:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2012 00:52 nmbr wrote:
Hey hey, quick lvl 27 player question - what's the best way to cut your losses in a bad laning matchup? I've been spamming Akali in blind pick normals and keep getting matched against Renekton (clue me in if there is a way to counter Ren w/ Akali, I haven't found it yet). I've got into the habit of just farming under tower as best as I can with the intent of letting the tower fall to free me up for roaming. Push my lane out until I meet resistance, then try to start unfair fights in other ppls lanes and prune any untended jungle camps - return to lane when it's near my 2nd tower again. It's working out pretty well, but I know there is a definite loss of cs in my lane and I can't always rely on my jungler leaving his camps uncleared. I wouldn't do this mid, btw.

I'm enjoying learning first hand why some matchups are no-goes, way better than reading some list on a forum. Just don't wanna pick up bad habits. What's the consensus?

Also, first post. Sup.

First and foremost, welcome to the TL LoL community, we hope you like it here!

I've personally become a big fan of running gp10, when losing lane, and trying to last hit under turret.

So as far as the akali vs renekton lane, you probably have very low kill potential against him, just due to his nature of his tankiness.

I'd probably approach it this way, start boot-3pot, see how the lane turns out. If I'm getting faced smashed in, and can't get that much farm, I start buying HoG, Kage's lucky pick, both good items, that give both stats and gp10. Now at this point you've pretty much said "FUCK IT, I'm not going to bother fucking killing you, I'm just going to make more gold than you, and become more useful in team fighting phase" Then think about getting really cost effective items, such as sheen and phage, hell you might want to just buy madreds razor just for better last hitting and some armor. Hopefully you'll be able to ride out mid game by playing like a panzy, and farming, and eventually you'll find yourself with a larger gold pool than your opponent.

i don't mean to resurrect the specter of gp5 discussions but i find that when you are losing your lane going gp5 is typically disastrous. If you've fed your opponent a real item and you're sitting in lane with a hog and an amplifying tone you aren't even going to be able to get experience.


really? I've never really quite have that problem in mid lane, in top lane it can punished pretty hard, but the gp10 usually makes up for loss cs. and with akali, invis shroud thingy should keep you in xp range for almost all of it.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 01 2012 18:17 GMT
#4530
what elo is scarra playing at on the korean server? the tryhardness is scaring me
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 01 2012 18:19 GMT
#4531
yeah i meant top lane. It's pretty noticable there
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 18:23:41
July 01 2012 18:23 GMT
#4532
Scarra and wingsofdeathx are by far the best streamers
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 01 2012 18:25 GMT
#4533
On July 02 2012 03:17 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what elo is scarra playing at on the korean server? the tryhardness is scaring me


2100something I think.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 01 2012 18:33 GMT
#4534
well i can say i've never played any solo queue game remotely as tryhard as that even with a front page first pick
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
July 01 2012 18:34 GMT
#4535
Now that riot has released Pulsefire Ezreal they can finally start working on the skin that everyone wants, Pulsefire Soraka.
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 18:34:42
July 01 2012 18:34 GMT
#4536
Why does the Korean server display times over 59 seconds in minutes:seconds format? Or is it possible to change that in the client and I just haven't looked hard enough?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 01 2012 18:35 GMT
#4537
On July 02 2012 03:34 Sven Stryker wrote:
Why does the Korean server display times over 59 seconds in minutes:seconds format? Or is it possible to change that in the client and I just haven't looked hard enough?

you can change that in the settings somewhere
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2012 18:37 GMT
#4538
On July 02 2012 03:25 Zhiroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 03:17 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what elo is scarra playing at on the korean server? the tryhardness is scaring me


2100something I think.

just to add context, highest elo in korea is ~2400.
also, if you feed, like go 1-5, you lose 80 elo or something insane like that.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2012 18:38 GMT
#4539
On July 02 2012 03:34 ViZe wrote:
Now that riot has released Pulsefire Ezreal they can finally start working on the skin that everyone wants, Pulsefire Soraka.

DEM PULSEFIRING BANANAS
liftlift > tsm
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
July 01 2012 18:41 GMT
#4540
On July 02 2012 03:38 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 03:34 ViZe wrote:
Now that riot has released Pulsefire Ezreal they can finally start working on the skin that everyone wants, Pulsefire Soraka.

DEM PULSEFIRING BANANAS

I didn't buy PFE but I'd definitely buy that
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