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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 01 2012 10:30 GMT
#4501
I recall mentioning that wx maxed w on ezreal a long time ago. more recently genja http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333600&currentpage=120
cool beans
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
July 01 2012 11:43 GMT
#4502
On July 01 2012 19:30 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
I recall mentioning that wx maxed w on ezreal a long time ago. more recently genja http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333600&currentpage=120

So much for the Asians being behind in the metagame. Ezreal had been insanely popular in China months ago.
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
July 01 2012 12:45 GMT
#4503
Oh god, new pulsefire ezreal skin causes my game to run at about 15 fps. Cannot play when i use it and i even get screwed if enemy takes it, darkflame shyvana has the same problem with me. Is anyone else suffering from this?
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 12:49:57
July 01 2012 12:49 GMT
#4504
I have a problem since the new patch. I adjust interface and minimap size (lower it abit), but when i start new game it's back to its original, pretty big size. It's annoying, i have to adjust 3 sliders (minimap size, interface size, chat size) every game =/

I have this issue for like 2 days (since the latest patch iirc, but i made a format lately and reinstalled the game- maybe that's the case?)

Do any of you guys know how to fix this?
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 01 2012 13:11 GMT
#4505
On July 01 2012 21:49 CruiseR wrote:
I have a problem since the new patch. I adjust interface and minimap size (lower it abit), but when i start new game it's back to its original, pretty big size. It's annoying, i have to adjust 3 sliders (minimap size, interface size, chat size) every game =/

I have this issue for like 2 days (since the latest patch iirc, but i made a format lately and reinstalled the game- maybe that's the case?)

Do any of you guys know how to fix this?

There's probably a config file that you can modify. Best solution is to ask in the tech support thread in this forum, it's run by moonbear, which pretty much means you're guaranteed a timely, informative, and helpful answer
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 01 2012 13:21 GMT
#4506
On July 01 2012 19:19 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 19:15 spinesheath wrote:
On July 01 2012 17:53 PrinceXizor wrote:
On July 01 2012 17:26 De4ngus wrote:
the china teams been maxing w on ezreal for a while now lul.

yeah, chinese teams actually practice. instead of stumbling on good builds while trolling solo queue, they practice and try new things seriously.

Frankly, this is kinda annoying. You were bad at the game, uninstalled, but keep insulting the LoL community and the game itself. If you decided that you're done with the game, be done with it. You're acting like someone who broke up with his girlfriend and badmouths her whenever he can.

frankly, this is kinda annoying. you don't know what you are talking about and still are talking. :/


the LoL pros don't take the game seriously enough, it's pretty much accepted that until recently they barely even practiced.

What the? Lol pros don't play/practice seriously enough for your liking? DTAI my friend. Don't talk about it, do something about it (I.e. make your own team and go get some oh so easy cash with your well practiced team). If you don't like how hard they practice that sounds like a personal issue, and you should really follow the advice given to you and take a break from EVERYTHING lol relate, playing it, discussing it here, stop wearing your lol tshirts etc. take a couple weeks off, of you miss it, then great, you've found you like the game despite its perceived flaws. If you don't come back, then you've saved yourself a bunch of time, and a bunch of frustration.
Seriously, do it.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 15:30:32
July 01 2012 14:50 GMT
#4507
God Janna is so broken in ARAM. D:

Also apparently the only AD carry I can play is . . . ad kennen lol. Atleast I do decently with him, being able to lock down the big bad bruiser diving you is really helpful when your team doesn't give a shit about protecting you.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
nmbr
Profile Joined September 2010
United States79 Posts
July 01 2012 15:52 GMT
#4508
Hey hey, quick lvl 27 player question - what's the best way to cut your losses in a bad laning matchup? I've been spamming Akali in blind pick normals and keep getting matched against Renekton (clue me in if there is a way to counter Ren w/ Akali, I haven't found it yet). I've got into the habit of just farming under tower as best as I can with the intent of letting the tower fall to free me up for roaming. Push my lane out until I meet resistance, then try to start unfair fights in other ppls lanes and prune any untended jungle camps - return to lane when it's near my 2nd tower again. It's working out pretty well, but I know there is a definite loss of cs in my lane and I can't always rely on my jungler leaving his camps uncleared. I wouldn't do this mid, btw.

I'm enjoying learning first hand why some matchups are no-goes, way better than reading some list on a forum. Just don't wanna pick up bad habits. What's the consensus?

Also, first post. Sup.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 01 2012 15:57 GMT
#4509
On July 02 2012 00:52 nmbr wrote:
Hey hey, quick lvl 27 player question - what's the best way to cut your losses in a bad laning matchup? I've been spamming Akali in blind pick normals and keep getting matched against Renekton (clue me in if there is a way to counter Ren w/ Akali, I haven't found it yet). I've got into the habit of just farming under tower as best as I can with the intent of letting the tower fall to free me up for roaming. Push my lane out until I meet resistance, then try to start unfair fights in other ppls lanes and prune any untended jungle camps - return to lane when it's near my 2nd tower again. It's working out pretty well, but I know there is a definite loss of cs in my lane and I can't always rely on my jungler leaving his camps uncleared. I wouldn't do this mid, btw.

I'm enjoying learning first hand why some matchups are no-goes, way better than reading some list on a forum. Just don't wanna pick up bad habits. What's the consensus?

Also, first post. Sup.

Welcome,
A question like 'how to cut your losses' is pretty general, and can vary matchup to matchup. If your champ can farm at tower well (which akali can), then you can let them push you to tower and just farm underneath it, and then ask for a jungle gank). In general it can be really hard to do anything top lane if you're behind, it generally needs jungle assistance to keep it in check.

For more specific akali stuff, there is an akali thread (if u wanna talk about akali vs renek specifically). By default i think only threads with a post within 2 weeks are displayed, but just type in 'akali' in the search bar and the thread will still pop up.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
July 01 2012 16:01 GMT
#4510
On July 02 2012 00:57 Dgiese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 00:52 nmbr wrote:
Hey hey, quick lvl 27 player question - what's the best way to cut your losses in a bad laning matchup? I've been spamming Akali in blind pick normals and keep getting matched against Renekton (clue me in if there is a way to counter Ren w/ Akali, I haven't found it yet). I've got into the habit of just farming under tower as best as I can with the intent of letting the tower fall to free me up for roaming. Push my lane out until I meet resistance, then try to start unfair fights in other ppls lanes and prune any untended jungle camps - return to lane when it's near my 2nd tower again. It's working out pretty well, but I know there is a definite loss of cs in my lane and I can't always rely on my jungler leaving his camps uncleared. I wouldn't do this mid, btw.

I'm enjoying learning first hand why some matchups are no-goes, way better than reading some list on a forum. Just don't wanna pick up bad habits. What's the consensus?

Also, first post. Sup.

Welcome,
A question like 'how to cut your losses' is pretty general, and can vary matchup to matchup. If your champ can farm at tower well (which akali can), then you can let them push you to tower and just farm underneath it, and then ask for a jungle gank). In general it can be really hard to do anything top lane if you're behind, it generally needs jungle assistance to keep it in check.

For more specific akali stuff, there is an akali thread (if u wanna talk about akali vs renek specifically). By default i think only threads with a post within 2 weeks are displayed, but just type in 'akali' in the search bar and the thread will still pop up.


Every slice of the damage pie for Renek is physical, except for a little bit of frosting (ult damage), so what I tend to do is get some armor first, no matter which top laner I'm playing.

In the case of Akali, either cutlass>chain vest or revolver>chain vest would be my choice. Start out with cloth5 too, and get tabi's.

I'd also ideally have an Akali page with some armor in the yellows, instead of hp/lvl.

Other than that, it's a difficult matchup. Renektons dash makes it easy for him to get to you and do a lot of damage, your shroud does nothing against his Q and E. He will damage you in shroud.
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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
July 01 2012 16:12 GMT
#4511
If only it was pulsefire Ez.

wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2012 16:24 GMT
#4512
On July 02 2012 00:52 nmbr wrote:
Hey hey, quick lvl 27 player question - what's the best way to cut your losses in a bad laning matchup? I've been spamming Akali in blind pick normals and keep getting matched against Renekton (clue me in if there is a way to counter Ren w/ Akali, I haven't found it yet). I've got into the habit of just farming under tower as best as I can with the intent of letting the tower fall to free me up for roaming. Push my lane out until I meet resistance, then try to start unfair fights in other ppls lanes and prune any untended jungle camps - return to lane when it's near my 2nd tower again. It's working out pretty well, but I know there is a definite loss of cs in my lane and I can't always rely on my jungler leaving his camps uncleared. I wouldn't do this mid, btw.

I'm enjoying learning first hand why some matchups are no-goes, way better than reading some list on a forum. Just don't wanna pick up bad habits. What's the consensus?

Also, first post. Sup.

First and foremost, welcome to the TL LoL community, we hope you like it here!

I've personally become a big fan of running gp10, when losing lane, and trying to last hit under turret.

So as far as the akali vs renekton lane, you probably have very low kill potential against him, just due to his nature of his tankiness.

I'd probably approach it this way, start boot-3pot, see how the lane turns out. If I'm getting faced smashed in, and can't get that much farm, I start buying HoG, Kage's lucky pick, both good items, that give both stats and gp10. Now at this point you've pretty much said "FUCK IT, I'm not going to bother fucking killing you, I'm just going to make more gold than you, and become more useful in team fighting phase" Then think about getting really cost effective items, such as sheen and phage, hell you might want to just buy madreds razor just for better last hitting and some armor. Hopefully you'll be able to ride out mid game by playing like a panzy, and farming, and eventually you'll find yourself with a larger gold pool than your opponent.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2012 16:27 GMT
#4513
On July 02 2012 01:12 beefhamburger wrote:
If only it was pulsefire Ez.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owIwn84mRPE

seriously, doublelift makes the best fucking plays I've ever seen. Seriously, if that was anyone else, they would've just straight up arcane shifted + flashed' out. BUT NOPE. MAN MODE. Waits till last possible second to flash into bush, INSTA-gibs the MF, then walks out and fights j4 like a boss.
liftlift > tsm
nmbr
Profile Joined September 2010
United States79 Posts
July 01 2012 16:29 GMT
#4514
A question like 'how to cut your losses' is pretty general, and can vary matchup to matchup.


Oh, totally. I guess I could reduce it down to 'is giving up top tower worse than feeding (say) 2 kills'.

In the case of Akali, either cutlass>chain vest or revolver>chain vest would be my choice. Start out with cloth5 too, and get tabi's.

I'd also ideally have an Akali page with some armor in the yellows, instead of hp/lvl.


Waiting for a 4th pot was comfortable, armoring up is something I need to keep in mind. I'll probably pull the trigger on a set of armor yellows tonight - been saving for gp10 yellows but fuck it. Anyways I'll stop side tracking GD, thanks for the advice :D
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 01 2012 16:36 GMT
#4515
giving up top/bot tower is good for a losing lane in that you can farm on your own side and freeze lane, but only if the other team don't try to snowball the advantage aggressively.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 01 2012 16:43 GMT
#4516
Generally, every time you're losing your lane you want to try to sneak as much exp/farm as possible while not dying. This usually means playing like a pansy and only farming at tower while screaming at your jungler to gank. If possible, you can also sneak off to kill double golems (purple side) and maayyyybe wolves (blue side; not as recommended since wolves are really far away) to get some measure of farm.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
July 01 2012 16:43 GMT
#4517
On July 02 2012 01:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Seriously, if that was anyone else, they would've just straight up arcane shifted + flashed' out. BUT NOPE. MAN MODE. Waits till last possible second to flash into bush, INSTA-gibs the MF, then walks out and fights j4 like a boss.

...

That was a desperation attempt to kill someone knowing he was likely already fucked.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 16:52:28
July 01 2012 16:45 GMT
#4518
On July 02 2012 01:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 01:12 beefhamburger wrote:
If only it was pulsefire Ez.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owIwn84mRPE

seriously, doublelift makes the best fucking plays I've ever seen. Seriously, if that was anyone else, they would've just straight up arcane shifted + flashed' out. BUT NOPE. MAN MODE. Waits till last possible second to flash into bush, INSTA-gibs the MF, then walks out and fights j4 like a boss.

Most people wouldn't have double dorans and Zerkers and IE at 15:30 either, though, and most people probably wouldn't hit that one 25% chance crit(Though he did have 2 chances) that saves them vs MF. 0,213


Completely unrelated:

Last ~3 games I've seen by m5, Darien has always fed the toplane like a madman and also if someone in his team gets caught, it's generally him. Hmhm...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 01 2012 16:48 GMT
#4519
On July 02 2012 01:45 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 01:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:12 beefhamburger wrote:
If only it was pulsefire Ez.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owIwn84mRPE

seriously, doublelift makes the best fucking plays I've ever seen. Seriously, if that was anyone else, they would've just straight up arcane shifted + flashed' out. BUT NOPE. MAN MODE. Waits till last possible second to flash into bush, INSTA-gibs the MF, then walks out and fights j4 like a boss.

Most people wouldn't have double dorans and Zerkers and IE at 15:30 either, though, and most people probably wouldn't hit that one 25% chance crit(Though he did have 2 chances) that saves them vs MF.

yea it was pretty impressive, not many players can do that, sure. but to be fair he was 5-0 prior to that play. Not to mention J4 waited a really long time to ult and missed his first knock-up.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 16:59:10
July 01 2012 16:58 GMT
#4520
On July 02 2012 01:45 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 01:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:12 beefhamburger wrote:
If only it was pulsefire Ez.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owIwn84mRPE

seriously, doublelift makes the best fucking plays I've ever seen. Seriously, if that was anyone else, they would've just straight up arcane shifted + flashed' out. BUT NOPE. MAN MODE. Waits till last possible second to flash into bush, INSTA-gibs the MF, then walks out and fights j4 like a boss.

Most people wouldn't have double dorans and Zerkers and IE at 15:30 either, though, and most people probably wouldn't hit that one 25% chance crit(Though he did have 2 chances) that saves them vs MF. 0,213


Completely unrelated:

Last ~3 games I've seen by m5, Darien has always fed the toplane like a madman and also if someone in his team gets caught, it's generally him. Hmhm...


I've never thought Darien was that good. Even when M5 was all the rage and considered the best team in the world hands down, I remember thinking he was mediocre at best.

I remember him playing Wukong top and dying at level 2 1v1 to a Vladimir. I was just like "Dafuq? How..."
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